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marco.nelissen at gmail

Apr 10, 2012, 9:39 PM

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what does "recorder failed" mean?

Last night a recording failed, which didn't give my wife much confidence
that she'll continue to be able to watch her shows now that we've cancelled
our Directv service. The "previously recorded" list shows "recorder failed"
for this recording. The backend log shows:

2012-04-09 21:58:29.312 TVRec(2): ASK_RECORDING 2 29 0 0
2012-04-09 21:59:01.625 TVRec(2): Changing from None to RecordingOnly
2012-04-09 21:59:01.715 TVRec(2): HW Tuner: 2->2
2012-04-09 21:59:01.905 AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required Free Space:
3.0 GB w/freq: 7 min
2012-04-09 21:59:02.012 Started recording: Smash:Understudy: channel 1111
on cardid 2, sourceid 1
2012-04-09 21:59:02.292 ProgramInfo(1111_20120409215900.mpg), Error:
GetPlaybackURL: '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not
be found.
2012-04-09 21:59:02.591 ProgramInfo(1111_20120409215900.mpg), Error:
GetPlaybackURL: '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not
be found.
2012-04-09 21:59:02.773 ProgramInfo(1111_20120409215900.mpg), Error:
GetPlaybackURL: '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not
be found.

and then some time later, at the time the recording was scheduled to end:

2012-04-09 23:10:00.280 TVRec(2): Changing from RecordingOnly to None
2012-04-09 23:10:00.424 Updating status for Smash:Understudy on cardid 2
(Tuning => Recorder Failed)

Is there any other place I can look to find out why it failed to record
this show?


mtdean at thirdcontact

Apr 10, 2012, 10:01 PM

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Re: what does "recorder failed" mean? [In reply to]

On 04/11/2012 12:39 AM, Marco Nelissen wrote:
> Last night a recording failed, which didn't give my wife much
> confidence that she'll continue to be able to watch her shows now that
> we've cancelled our Directv service. The "previously recorded" list
> shows "recorder failed" for this recording. The backend log shows:
>
> 2012-04-09 21:58:29.312 TVRec(2): ASK_RECORDING 2 29 0 0
> 2012-04-09 21:59:01.625 TVRec(2): Changing from None to RecordingOnly
> 2012-04-09 21:59:01.715 TVRec(2): HW Tuner: 2->2
> 2012-04-09 21:59:01.905 AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required Free
> Space: 3.0 GB w/freq: 7 min
> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.012 Started recording: Smash:Understudy: channel
> 1111 on cardid 2, sourceid 1
> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.292 ProgramInfo(1111_20120409215900.mpg), Error:
> GetPlaybackURL: '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can
> not be found.
> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.591 ProgramInfo(1111_20120409215900.mpg), Error:
> GetPlaybackURL: '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can
> not be found.
> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.773 ProgramInfo(1111_20120409215900.mpg), Error:
> GetPlaybackURL: '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can
> not be found.
>
> and then some time later, at the time the recording was scheduled to end:
>
> 2012-04-09 23:10:00.280 TVRec(2): Changing from RecordingOnly to None
> 2012-04-09 23:10:00.424 Updating status for Smash:Understudy on cardid
> 2 (Tuning => Recorder Failed)
>
> Is there any other place I can look to find out why it failed to
> record this show?

dmesg?

I'm guessing the capture device failed to provide any data for the
backend to write.

Also, note that you have an orphaned Live TV recording shown above (the
"should be local, but it can not be found" messages).

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marco.nelissen at gmail

Apr 10, 2012, 10:22 PM

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Re: what does "recorder failed" mean? [In reply to]

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Michael T. Dean
<mtdean [at] thirdcontact>wrote:

> On 04/11/2012 12:39 AM, Marco Nelissen wrote:
>
>> Last night a recording failed, which didn't give my wife much confidence
>> that she'll continue to be able to watch her shows now that we've cancelled
>> our Directv service. The "previously recorded" list shows "recorder failed"
>> for this recording. The backend log shows:
>>
>> 2012-04-09 21:58:29.312 TVRec(2): ASK_RECORDING 2 29 0 0
>> 2012-04-09 21:59:01.625 TVRec(2): Changing from None to RecordingOnly
>> 2012-04-09 21:59:01.715 TVRec(2): HW Tuner: 2->2
>> 2012-04-09 21:59:01.905 AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required Free
>> Space: 3.0 GB w/freq: 7 min
>> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.012 Started recording: Smash:Understudy: channel 1111
>> on cardid 2, sourceid 1
>> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.292 ProgramInfo(1111_**20120409215900.mpg), Error:
>> GetPlaybackURL: '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not
>> be found.
>> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.591 ProgramInfo(1111_**20120409215900.mpg), Error:
>> GetPlaybackURL: '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not
>> be found.
>> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.773 ProgramInfo(1111_**20120409215900.mpg), Error:
>> GetPlaybackURL: '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not
>> be found.
>>
>> and then some time later, at the time the recording was scheduled to end:
>>
>> 2012-04-09 23:10:00.280 TVRec(2): Changing from RecordingOnly to None
>> 2012-04-09 23:10:00.424 Updating status for Smash:Understudy on cardid 2
>> (Tuning => Recorder Failed)
>>
>> Is there any other place I can look to find out why it failed to record
>> this show?
>>
>
> dmesg?
>

Unfortunately my wife restarted the machine in an attempt to get things to
work, so I no longer have the dmesg.

I'm guessing the capture device failed to provide any data for the backend
> to write.
>
> Also, note that you have an orphaned Live TV recording shown above (the
> "should be local, but it can not be found" messages).
>

Not sure what you mean by that. Looking at the backend log, there are a ton
of those message, even for stuff that was successfully recorded. It looks
like every time a recording starts, something tries to access the recording
file a few times before it's actually ready.


jk90090 at gmail

Apr 10, 2012, 10:31 PM

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Re: what does "recorder failed" mean? [In reply to]

Was this only for one recording? Check your directory ownership and permissions for the storage group(s). This sounds like myth can't write to the recording location.

-JK

On Apr 10, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Marco Nelissen <marco.nelissen [at] gmail> wrote:

> Last night a recording failed, which didn't give my wife much confidence that she'll continue to be able to watch her shows now that we've cancelled our Directv service. The "previously recorded" list shows "recorder failed" for this recording. The backend log shows:
>
> 2012-04-09 21:58:29.312 TVRec(2): ASK_RECORDING 2 29 0 0
> 2012-04-09 21:59:01.625 TVRec(2): Changing from None to RecordingOnly
> 2012-04-09 21:59:01.715 TVRec(2): HW Tuner: 2->2
> 2012-04-09 21:59:01.905 AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required Free Space: 3.0 GB w/freq: 7 min
> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.012 Started recording: Smash:Understudy: channel 1111 on cardid 2, sourceid 1
> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.292 ProgramInfo(1111_20120409215900.mpg), Error: GetPlaybackURL: '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not be found.
> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.591 ProgramInfo(1111_20120409215900.mpg), Error: GetPlaybackURL: '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not be found.
> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.773 ProgramInfo(1111_20120409215900.mpg), Error: GetPlaybackURL: '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not be found.
>
> and then some time later, at the time the recording was scheduled to end:
>
> 2012-04-09 23:10:00.280 TVRec(2): Changing from RecordingOnly to None
> 2012-04-09 23:10:00.424 Updating status for Smash:Understudy on cardid 2 (Tuning => Recorder Failed)
>
> Is there any other place I can look to find out why it failed to record this show?
>
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mythtv at rtr

Apr 11, 2012, 6:12 AM

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Re: what does "recorder failed" mean? [In reply to]

On 12-04-11 01:22 AM, Marco Nelissen wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Michael T. Dean <mtdean [at] thirdcontact
> <mailto:mtdean [at] thirdcontact>> wrote:
>
> On 04/11/2012 12:39 AM, Marco Nelissen wrote:
>
> Last night a recording failed, which didn't give my wife much confidence that she'll
> continue to be able to watch her shows now that we've cancelled our Directv service. The
> "previously recorded" list shows "recorder failed" for this recording. The backend log shows:
>
> 2012-04-09 21:58:29.312 TVRec(2): ASK_RECORDING 2 29 0 0
> 2012-04-09 21:59:01.625 TVRec(2): Changing from None to RecordingOnly
> 2012-04-09 21:59:01.715 TVRec(2): HW Tuner: 2->2
> 2012-04-09 21:59:01.905 AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required Free Space: 3.0 GB w/freq: 7 min
> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.012 Started recording: Smash:Understudy: channel 1111 on cardid 2,
> sourceid 1
> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.292 ProgramInfo(1111___20120409215900.mpg), Error: GetPlaybackURL:
> '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not be found.
> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.591 ProgramInfo(1111___20120409215900.mpg), Error: GetPlaybackURL:
> '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not be found.
> 2012-04-09 21:59:02.773 ProgramInfo(1111___20120409215900.mpg), Error: GetPlaybackURL:
> '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not be found.
>
> and then some time later, at the time the recording was scheduled to end:
>
> 2012-04-09 23:10:00.280 TVRec(2): Changing from RecordingOnly to None
> 2012-04-09 23:10:00.424 Updating status for Smash:Understudy on cardid 2 (Tuning => Recorder
> Failed)
>
> Is there any other place I can look to find out why it failed to record this show?
>
>
> dmesg?
>
>
> Unfortunately my wife restarted the machine in an attempt to get things to work, so I no longer have
> the dmesg.

You probably do -- look in /var/log/* for whatever file your distro
uses for saving kernel messages. Normally there are a few week's worth
of messages in there.

>
> I'm guessing the capture device failed to provide any data for the backend to write.
..
> Not sure what you mean by that.

One of two things happened.
Either reception was poor for that channel and the card was unable to tune to it,
or the device driver for the tuner has a bug and failed to tune to it.

What kind of tuner device are you using, and what is your signal source
(O.T.A. antenna for ATSC in the USA?)
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marco.nelissen at gmail

Apr 11, 2012, 7:27 AM

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Re: what does "recorder failed" mean? [In reply to]

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Jk90090 <jk90090 [at] gmail> wrote:

> Was this only for one recording? Check your directory ownership and
> permissions for the storage group(s). This sounds like myth can't write to
> the recording location.
>

All recordings go in the same folder, and the permissions are OK.


marco.nelissen at gmail

Apr 11, 2012, 7:42 AM

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Re: what does "recorder failed" mean? [In reply to]

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Mark Lord <mythtv [at] rtr> wrote:

> On 12-04-11 01:22 AM, Marco Nelissen wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Michael T. Dean <
> mtdean [at] thirdcontact
> > <mailto:mtdean [at] thirdcontact>> wrote:
> >
> > On 04/11/2012 12:39 AM, Marco Nelissen wrote:
> >
> > Last night a recording failed, which didn't give my wife much
> confidence that she'll
> > continue to be able to watch her shows now that we've cancelled
> our Directv service. The
> > "previously recorded" list shows "recorder failed" for this
> recording. The backend log shows:
> >
> > 2012-04-09 21:58:29.312 TVRec(2): ASK_RECORDING 2 29 0 0
> > 2012-04-09 21:59:01.625 TVRec(2): Changing from None to
> RecordingOnly
> > 2012-04-09 21:59:01.715 TVRec(2): HW Tuner: 2->2
> > 2012-04-09 21:59:01.905 AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required
> Free Space: 3.0 GB w/freq: 7 min
> > 2012-04-09 21:59:02.012 Started recording: Smash:Understudy:
> channel 1111 on cardid 2,
> > sourceid 1
> > 2012-04-09 21:59:02.292 ProgramInfo(1111___20120409215900.mpg),
> Error: GetPlaybackURL:
> > '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not be
> found.
> > 2012-04-09 21:59:02.591 ProgramInfo(1111___20120409215900.mpg),
> Error: GetPlaybackURL:
> > '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not be
> found.
> > 2012-04-09 21:59:02.773 ProgramInfo(1111___20120409215900.mpg),
> Error: GetPlaybackURL:
> > '1111_20120409215900.mpg' should be local, but it can not be
> found.
> >
> > and then some time later, at the time the recording was
> scheduled to end:
> >
> > 2012-04-09 23:10:00.280 TVRec(2): Changing from RecordingOnly to
> None
> > 2012-04-09 23:10:00.424 Updating status for Smash:Understudy on
> cardid 2 (Tuning => Recorder
> > Failed)
> >
> > Is there any other place I can look to find out why it failed to
> record this show?
> >
> >
> > dmesg?
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately my wife restarted the machine in an attempt to get things
> to work, so I no longer have
> > the dmesg.
>
> You probably do -- look in /var/log/* for whatever file your distro
> uses for saving kernel messages. Normally there are a few week's worth
> of messages in there.
>

Ha! I didn't realize that /proc/kmsg was mirrored as /var/log/kern.log. and
with human readable timestamps, even.
Unfortunately, it goes right from April 8 to April 10, so it looks like
whatever the problem was on April 9, it wasn't anything kernel/driver
related, or at least not something that the kernel or driver thought was
worth logging.

>
> > I'm guessing the capture device failed to provide any data for the
> backend to write.
> ..
> > Not sure what you mean by that.
>
> One of two things happened.
> Either reception was poor for that channel and the card was unable to tune
> to it,
> or the device driver for the tuner has a bug and failed to tune to it.
>
> What kind of tuner device are you using, and what is your signal source
> (O.T.A. antenna for ATSC in the USA?)
>

I have OTA ATSC via three PCI FusionHDTV cards, all connected via a powered
splitter/amplifier to the antenna.
If I'm reading the backend log correctly, that same card (#2) successfully
recorded 2 other shows earlier that day, on different channels. When I
tried tuning to the failed recording's channel the day after, that worked
too.

If it *was* a bad reception at the time, or a driver bug or something, is
there any way to tell myth to try harder, or try again?


mythtv at rtr

Apr 11, 2012, 2:31 PM

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Re: what does "recorder failed" mean? [In reply to]

On 12-04-11 10:42 AM, Marco Nelissen wrote:
>
> I have OTA ATSC via three PCI FusionHDTV cards, all connected via a powered splitter/amplifier to
> the antenna.
> If I'm reading the backend log correctly, that same card (#2) successfully recorded 2 other shows
> earlier that day, on different channels. When I tried tuning to the failed recording's channel the
> day after, that worked too.
>
> If it *was* a bad reception at the time, or a driver bug or something, is there any way to tell myth
> to try harder, or try again?

Mythtv by itself doesn't seem to attempt any form of fault-tolerance or error-recovery,
so it's pretty much up to you to work around the issue somehow.

Other people here have the same issues from time to time, and some have worked out
ways to recover. There was a thread on "zero byte files" or something similar
that ended up discussing some workarounds recently.

Cheers
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lee295012 at gmail

May 8, 2012, 3:37 AM

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Re: what does "recorder failed" mean? [In reply to]

wondering if they backend only tries to tune once or does it keep trying
(like every minute).
a partial recording may be better than nothing at all.

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cats22 at comcast

May 8, 2012, 7:30 AM

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Re: what does "recorder failed" mean? [In reply to]

On 5/8/2012 6:37 AM, Lee Donaghy wrote:
> wondering if they backend only tries to tune once or does it keep
> trying (like every minute).
> a partial recording may be better than nothing at all.
>
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I have DVB and firewire, and in both cases a brief disconnection of the
cable during recording causes a recording failure. I thought about
making some code changes so that it would retry a few times, perhaps for
5 minutes or so, but it happens so seldom that it did not seem worth my
time. How often do you see this? I had a bad antenna cable on the DVB
and it happened once, so I replaced the cable.

Peter
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lee295012 at gmail

May 8, 2012, 2:29 PM

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Re: what does "recorder failed" mean? [In reply to]

It doesn't happen often, 2nd time in a month.
it's annoying as it's not scheduled to repeat any time soon, i'll have
to watch it online via 4OD.

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