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anothersname at googlemail

Mar 12, 2012, 7:18 PM

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.25 on Gnome 3 and I hate Gnome 3........

I currently am running a couple of backends and lots of frontends on
Fedora 12/13/14 with Gnome 2 and mythtv .23 fixes.

I tried, no really, I tried and tried gnome 3 on a laptop for a month
and frankly just hated it. So my myth setup has stayed on what is now
approaching a 2 year old infrastructure environment.

gnome 3 just seems to be determined to work with a 'single task' idiom
and for power users like me that just does not work. On my laptop I
usually have vlc connections to a number of machines as well as
system/network monitoring tools running...gnome 3 does not lend itself
to this kind of setup. I'm currently trying F16 with xfce in a VM to
see whether I can get on with that.

Anyway the root of my problem is I need to upgrade my whole
infrastructure if I implement .25 so my question to the list is.....

What Desktop Environment are you using for your .25 setup, if you,
like me are a multi functioning multi tasking user how are you getting
around the problems inherent in Gnome 3?

Thanks in advance.
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J.Pilk at tesco

Mar 13, 2012, 1:57 AM

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Re: .25 on Gnome 3 and I hate Gnome 3........ [In reply to]

On 13/03/12 02:18, Another Sillyname wrote:

>
> What Desktop Environment are you using for your .25 setup, if you,
> like me are a multi functioning multi tasking user how are you getting
> around the problems inherent in Gnome 3?
>
> Thanks in advance.

The 'I hate Gnome 3' theme hasn't been so prominent on the Fedora lists
recently. I don't count myself a power user, but I use KDE. Not
migrated from 0.24-fixes yet, though.

John P

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Mar 13, 2012, 2:36 AM

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Re: .25 on Gnome 3 and I hate Gnome 3........ [In reply to]

John Pilkington wrote:
> I don't count myself a power user, but I use KDE.

Same as John, I'm using KDE. On my front end, I'm using LXDE.

Doug

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Mar 13, 2012, 5:34 AM

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Re: .25 on Gnome 3 and I hate Gnome 3........ [In reply to]

On 03/12/2012 09:18 PM, Another Sillyname wrote:
> What Desktop Environment are you using for your .25 setup, if you,
> like me are a multi functioning multi tasking user how are you getting
> around the problems inherent in Gnome 3?

Take a look at the Cinnamon desktop- it was designed for Linux Mint,
but it's installable on several Linux distributions.

Bob

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ryan.goat at gmail

Mar 13, 2012, 5:34 AM

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Re: .25 on Gnome 3 and I hate Gnome 3........ [In reply to]

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Another Sillyname
<anothersname [at] googlemail> wrote:
> What Desktop Environment are you using for your .25 setup, if you,
> like me are a multi functioning multi tasking user how are you getting
> around the problems inherent in Gnome 3?

I hate the phrase "power user" but I guess I qualify as one. After
trying gnome 3 last summer, I switched all my machines to xfce. For
me xfce is much better than Kiddie Desktop Environment (KDE) or the
abominations that are gnome 3 and unity.

-Ryan
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anothersname at googlemail

Mar 13, 2012, 5:49 AM

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Re: .25 on Gnome 3 and I hate Gnome 3........ [In reply to]

Ryan

You may be able to save me a little time......

I'm trying xfce in a vm and there's a couple of things that I've come
across.....

Using thunar there's no way I can see to connect to a remote server
via a ssh connection the way that nautilus has a 'connect to server'
option, is this right?

Also silly things like changing a filename open a sub function box
rather then doing it in the thunar GUI directly, again is this right?

Lastly I want to use Compiz and can't seem to get emerald window
decorations working, is that right?

Thanks

On 13 March 2012 12:34, Ryan Patterson <ryan.goat [at] gmail> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Another Sillyname
> <anothersname [at] googlemail> wrote:
>> What Desktop Environment are you using for your .25 setup, if you,
>> like me are a multi functioning multi tasking user how are you getting
>> around the problems inherent in Gnome 3?
>
> I hate the phrase "power user" but I guess I qualify as one. �After
> trying gnome 3 last summer, I switched all my machines to xfce. �For
> me xfce is much better than Kiddie Desktop Environment (KDE) or the
> abominations that are gnome 3 and unity.
>
> -Ryan
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mikep at randomtraveller

Mar 13, 2012, 6:03 AM

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Re: .25 on Gnome 3 and I hate Gnome 3........ [In reply to]

On 13/03/12 12:34, Ryan Patterson wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Another Sillyname
> <anothersname [at] googlemail> wrote:
>> What Desktop Environment are you using for your .25 setup, if you,
>> like me are a multi functioning multi tasking user how are you getting
>> around the problems inherent in Gnome 3?
>
> I hate the phrase "power user" but I guess I qualify as one. After
> trying gnome 3 last summer, I switched all my machines to xfce. For
> me xfce is much better than Kiddie Desktop Environment (KDE) or the
> abominations that are gnome 3 and unity.
>
I've been impressed by LXDE, which comes across as a sort of Gnome 2 lite.

Now all I have to do is get rid of that stupid Gnome 3 login screen that tells
the entire world what users I have configured on my boxes...

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ryan.goat at gmail

Mar 13, 2012, 7:13 AM

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Re: .25 on Gnome 3 and I hate Gnome 3........ [In reply to]

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Another Sillyname
<anothersname [at] googlemail> wrote:
> Using thunar there's no way I can see to connect to a remote server
> via a ssh connection the way that nautilus has a 'connect to server'
> option, is this right?
>
> Also silly things like changing a filename open a sub function box
> rather then doing it in the thunar GUI directly, again is this right?
>
> Lastly I want to use Compiz and can't seem to get emerald window
> decorations working, is that right?

I use Marlin ( https://launchpad.net/marlin ) instead of Thunar.
Though it is still in development and crashes sometimes. I don't
know about any graphical 'connect to server' functionality. I always
do that sort of thing from the shell.

Also I can't help much with compiz. I just use whatever was installed
by default in xubuntu.

This is getting pretty far off topic.

-Ryan
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newbury at mandamus

Mar 13, 2012, 9:58 AM

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Re: .25 on Gnome 3 and I hate Gnome 3........ [In reply to]

On 03/12/2012 10:18 PM, Another Sillyname wrote:
> I currently am running a couple of backends and lots of frontends on
> Fedora 12/13/14 with Gnome 2 and mythtv .23 fixes.
>
> I tried, no really, I tried and tried gnome 3 on a laptop for a month
> and frankly just hated it. So my myth setup has stayed on what is now
> approaching a 2 year old infrastructure environment.
>
> gnome 3 just seems to be determined to work with a 'single task' idiom
> and for power users like me that just does not work. On my laptop I
> usually have vlc connections to a number of machines as well as
> system/network monitoring tools running...gnome 3 does not lend itself
> to this kind of setup. I'm currently trying F16 with xfce in a VM to
> see whether I can get on with that.
>
> Anyway the root of my problem is I need to upgrade my whole
> infrastructure if I implement .25 so my question to the list is.....
>
> What Desktop Environment are you using for your .25 setup, if you,
> like me are a multi functioning multi tasking user how are you getting
> around the problems inherent in Gnome 3?

I looked at the gnome desktop some time ago, and had an excursion into
Ubuntu in a virtual about 2 years ago and *hated* it.

I use kde on all my machines (except the VOIP box!).

I tried xfce on my laptop for a couple of days, but moving between xfce
and kde was bothersome, plus I couldn't find stuff so I went back to kde.

Geoff

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gbr at majentis

Mar 13, 2012, 10:04 AM

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Re: .25 on Gnome 3 and I hate Gnome 3........ [In reply to]

----- Original Message -----
> On 03/12/2012 09:18 PM, Another Sillyname wrote:
> > What Desktop Environment are you using for your .25 setup, if you,
> > like me are a multi functioning multi tasking user how are you
> > getting
> > around the problems inherent in Gnome 3?
>
> Take a look at the Cinnamon desktop- it was designed for Linux Mint,
> but it's installable on several Linux distributions.
>
> Bob
>

That's what I did for Ubuntu 11.10. Works much better.

Now if only they could get the workspaces figured out.

Gerald
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anothersname at googlemail

Jul 18, 2012, 10:09 AM

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Re: .25 on Gnome 3 and I hate Gnome 3........ [In reply to]

On 13 March 2012 17:04, Gerald Brandt <gbr [at] majentis> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> On 03/12/2012 09:18 PM, Another Sillyname wrote:
>> > What Desktop Environment are you using for your .25 setup, if you,
>> > like me are a multi functioning multi tasking user how are you
>> > getting
>> > around the problems inherent in Gnome 3?
>>
>> Take a look at the Cinnamon desktop- it was designed for Linux Mint,
>> but it's installable on several Linux distributions.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>
> That's what I did for Ubuntu 11.10. Works much better.
>
> Now if only they could get the workspaces figured out.
>
> Gerald
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I know I originally posted this some time back but for users who
prefer the gnome2 environ I would recommend looking at Mate. I've now
got it running on some Mint boxes and have just installed it on a
Fedora 17 build, works pretty much the way Gnome2 used to and has all
the applets we love and need.
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richard.e.morton at gmail

Jul 18, 2012, 10:53 AM

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Re: .25 on Gnome 3 and I hate Gnome 3........ [In reply to]

I have now moved over to linuxmint cinammon. Linuxmint mate is not believed
to be a long term project, it is a stop gap at best. I have now moved to
cinammon for my daily driver and it has annoyed me least of all Linux
desktops I have ever tried (xcfe lxde gnome 2 , gnome 3, KDE 2, 3 and 4.).

please excuse brevity and pistakes as this email was composed on a phone.

regards
Richard

anothersname at googlemail

Jul 18, 2012, 1:16 PM

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Re: .25 on Gnome 3 and I hate Gnome 3........ [In reply to]

On 18 July 2012 18:53, Richard Morton <richard.e.morton [at] gmail> wrote:
> I have now moved over to linuxmint cinammon. Linuxmint mate is not believed
> to be a long term project, it is a stop gap at best. I have now moved to
> cinammon for my daily driver and it has annoyed me least of all Linux
> desktops I have ever tried (xcfe lxde gnome 2 , gnome 3, KDE 2, 3 and 4.).
>
> please excuse brevity and pistakes as this email was composed on a phone.
>
> regards
> Richard
>
>
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I think Mate will end up as it's own fork as there are now builds and
repos for most of the major distro's.

The install onto Fed17 took all of 5 minutes and works quite well.

Happy bunny again, lots of apps open, lot's of terminal sessions open,
lot's of work getting done.
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