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mush_keithd at yahoo

Jan 11, 2004, 8:50 AM

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PVR 350 TV out

Hi,

I have myth almost working. However at the moment the tv output is going
through the tv out on the 350 but the MythTv gui
is going out through the monitor. I'm guessing its something I'm missing
from XF86Config.

Any hints on how I get the gui out through the TV as well?

Thanks,

Keith

paulsykes at totalise

Jan 11, 2004, 9:51 AM

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Re: PVR 350 TV out [In reply to]

start mythfrontend on the tv not on the monitor. The osd will appear on the
device you start it on.

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:50 , Keith Davey <mush_keithd [at] yahoo> sent:

>Hi,
>
>
>
>I have myth almost working. However at the moment the tv output is going
>
>through the tv out on the 350 but the MythTv gui
>
>is going out through the monitor. I'm guessing its something I'm missing
>
>from XF86Config.
>
>
>
>Any hints on how I get the gui out through the TV as well?
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>
>Keith
>
>
>
>
>

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ijr at po

Jan 11, 2004, 10:02 AM

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Re: PVR 350 TV out [In reply to]

On Sunday 11 January 2004 10:50 am, Keith Davey wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have myth almost working. However at the moment the tv output is going
> through the tv out on the 350 but the MythTv gui
> is going out through the monitor. I'm guessing its something I'm missing
> from XF86Config.
>
> Any hints on how I get the gui out through the TV as well?

Run mythfrontend from the X session that's running on the TV out.

Isaac
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timwilhoit at cox-internet

Jan 11, 2004, 10:36 AM

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RE: PVR 350 TV out [In reply to]

What do you mean by "start mythfrontend on the tv not on the monitor".
Are these not the same output?

-----Original Message-----
From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv
[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of
paulsykes [at] totalise
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 10:52 AM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350 TV out

start mythfrontend on the tv not on the monitor. The osd will appear on
the
device you start it on.

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:50 , Keith Davey <mush_keithd [at] yahoo> sent:

>Hi,
>
>
>
>I have myth almost working. However at the moment the tv output is
going
>
>through the tv out on the 350 but the MythTv gui
>
>is going out through the monitor. I'm guessing its something I'm
missing
>
>from XF86Config.
>
>
>
>Any hints on how I get the gui out through the TV as well?
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>
>Keith
>
>
>
>
>

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mush_keithd at yahoo

Jan 11, 2004, 11:22 AM

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Re: PVR 350 TV out [In reply to]

Sorry, I don't understand that either.

Could it be because I have both the monitor and tv active in my
XF86Config, prehaps, I should
disable the monitor completely, does that sounds right?

Keith

Tim Wilhoit wrote:

>What do you mean by "start mythfrontend on the tv not on the monitor".
>Are these not the same output?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv
>[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of
>paulsykes [at] totalise
>Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 10:52 AM
>To: Discussion about mythtv
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350 TV out
>
>start mythfrontend on the tv not on the monitor. The osd will appear on
>the
>device you start it on.
>
>
>On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:50 , Keith Davey <mush_keithd [at] yahoo> sent:
>
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>>I have myth almost working. However at the moment the tv output is
>>
>>
>going
>
>
>>through the tv out on the 350 but the MythTv gui
>>
>>is going out through the monitor. I'm guessing its something I'm
>>
>>
>missing
>
>
>>from XF86Config.
>
>
>>
>>Any hints on how I get the gui out through the TV as well?
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>>Keith
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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kr at cybsft

Jan 11, 2004, 12:58 PM

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Re: PVR 350 TV out [In reply to]

Keith Davey wrote:
>
> Sorry, I don't understand that either.
>
> Could it be because I have both the monitor and tv active in my
> XF86Config, prehaps, I should
> disable the monitor completely, does that sounds right?
>
> Keith
>
> Tim Wilhoit wrote:
>
>> What do you mean by "start mythfrontend on the tv not on the monitor".
>> Are these not the same output?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv
>> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of
>> paulsykes [at] totalise
>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 10:52 AM
>> To: Discussion about mythtv
>> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 350 TV out
>>
>> start mythfrontend on the tv not on the monitor. The osd will appear on
>> the
>> device you start it on.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:50 , Keith Davey <mush_keithd [at] yahoo> sent:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have myth almost working. However at the moment the tv output is
>>>
>>
>> going
>>
>>> through the tv out on the 350 but the MythTv gui
>>>
>>> is going out through the monitor. I'm guessing its something I'm
>>>
>>
>> missing
>>
>>> from XF86Config.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Any hints on how I get the gui out through the TV as well?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>

Sounds to me like your display is setup for the monitor only. The reason
the tv output is going to the tv is probably because the video device is
specified in mythtv as /dev/video16??? Just a guess.

kr

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davidc-mythtv at connect4less

Jan 11, 2004, 1:36 PM

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Re: PVR 350 TV out [In reply to]

You usually have the TV setup on :0.1 desktop, or at least I do. change
your $DISPLAY var to :0.1 <or whatever>

On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 09:02, Isaac Richards wrote:
> On Sunday 11 January 2004 10:50 am, Keith Davey wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have myth almost working. However at the moment the tv output is going
> > through the tv out on the 350 but the MythTv gui
> > is going out through the monitor. I'm guessing its something I'm missing
> > from XF86Config.
> >
> > Any hints on how I get the gui out through the TV as well?
>
> Run mythfrontend from the X session that's running on the TV out.
>
> Isaac
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mush_keithd at yahoo

Jan 12, 2004, 12:30 PM

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Re: PVR 350 TV out [In reply to]

Thanks for the help.

That pointed me in the right direction and its working beautifully now.

Keith

MythTV-at-C4L wrote:

>You usually have the TV setup on :0.1 desktop, or at least I do. change
>your $DISPLAY var to :0.1 <or whatever>
>
>
>On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 09:02, Isaac Richards wrote:
>
>
>>On Sunday 11 January 2004 10:50 am, Keith Davey wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I have myth almost working. However at the moment the tv output is going
>>>through the tv out on the 350 but the MythTv gui
>>>is going out through the monitor. I'm guessing its something I'm missing
>>>from XF86Config.
>>>
>>>Any hints on how I get the gui out through the TV as well?
>>>
>>>
>>Run mythfrontend from the X session that's running on the TV out.
>>
>>Isaac
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council.tax at gmail

Feb 1, 2005, 12:53 AM

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Re: PVR 350 TV Out [In reply to]

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:16:48 -0800 (PST), Minh Duong
<minh_duong [at] yahoo> wrote:
> Hi, I am trouble getting video using my PVR350's TV
> Out. I am able to capture video and playback on my
> monitor but cannot see it on the TV-Out of the 350.
>
> I am using Fedora Core 2 and used Jarod's guide. I
> searched the archives and it seems that my symptoms
> are exactly like those experienced by Chris Martin on
> January 18 in the archives. However, he did email
> that he had found a solution.
>
> My case in a nutshell:
>
> I can see test pattern using $/sbin/modprobe saa7127
> test_capture=1.
> Removing test pattern and reloading saa7127 creates a
> pattern of lines on my TV.
> After some testing, I have figured out that the lines
> only appear after I load ivtv-fb.
>
> I can capture, tune, and playback video through a
> monitor.
> I cannot redirect the video through the TV-Out or see
> anything but the pattern.
> Since I need to load ivtv-fb to redirect the video
> out, I have to load ivtv-fb
>
> Anybody got any ideas.
>
> Here's my modprobe.conf
> ------------------------------------
> #ivtv modules setup
> alias char-major-81 videodev
> alias char-major-81-0 ivtv
> alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
> alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c
> install ivtv /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install;
> /sbin/modprobe ivtv-fb
> install lirc_i2c /sbin/modprobe ivtv; /sbin/modprobe
> --ignore-install lirc_i2c
>
> Here's my var/log/message
> -------------------------------------
> Jan 31 22:47:46 star kernel: ivtv:
> ==================== START INIT IVTV
> ====================
> Jan 31 22:47:46 star kernel: ivtv: version 0.2.0
> (rc3e) loading
> Jan 31 22:47:46 star kernel: ivtv: Linux version:
> 2.6.10-1.9_FC2 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.3
> Jan 31 22:47:46 star kernel: ivtv: In case of problems
> please include the debug info
> Jan 31 22:47:46 star kernel: ivtv: between the START
> INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines when
> Jan 31 22:47:46 star kernel: ivtv: mailing the
> ivtv-devel mailinglist.
> Jan 31 22:47:46 star kernel: ivtv: Autodetected WinTV
> PVR 350 card
> Jan 31 22:47:46 star kernel: ivtv: Found an iTVC15
> based chip
> Jan 31 22:47:46 star kernel: ivtv: XXX PCI device:
> 0x7124 vendor: 0x8086
> Jan 31 22:47:46 star kernel: ivtv: i2c attach
> [client=tveeprom[0],ok]
> Jan 31 22:47:47 star kernel: ivtv: Tuner Type 47,
> Tuner formats 0x00001000, Radio: yes, Model
> 0x00ad1598, Revision 0x00000001
> Jan 31 22:47:47 star kernel: ivtv: NTSC tuner detected
> Jan 31 22:47:47 star kernel: ivtv: Radio detected
> Jan 31 22:47:47 star kernel: ivtv: i2c attach
> [client=(tuner unset),ok]
> Jan 31 22:47:47 star kernel: ivtv: i2c attach
> [client=saa7115[0],ok]
> Jan 31 22:47:47 star kernel: ivtv: i2c attach
> [client=saa7127[0],ok]
> Jan 31 22:47:47 star kernel: ivtv: i2c attach
> [client=MSP3448W-A2,ok]
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Encoder revision:
> 0x02040024
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Encoder Firmware is
> buggy, use version 0x02040011
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Decoder revision:
> 0x02020023
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Configuring WinTV
> PVR 350 card with 9 streams
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Create DMA stream 0
> using 256 16384 byte buffers 4194304 kbytes total
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Registered v4l2
> device, streamtype 0 minor 0
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Create DMA stream 1
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Registered v4l2
> device, streamtype 1 minor 32
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Create stream 2
> using 40 52224 byte buffers 2097152 kbytes total
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Registered v4l2
> device, streamtype 2 minor 224
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Create DMA stream 3
> using 455 4608 byte buffers 2097152 kbytes total
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Registered v4l2
> device, streamtype 3 minor 24
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Create stream 4
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Registered v4l2
> device, streamtype 4 minor 64
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Create DMA stream 5
> using 16 65536 byte buffers 1048576 kbytes total
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Registered v4l2
> device, streamtype 5 minor 16
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Create stream 6
> using 1024 2048 byte buffers 262144 kbytes total
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Registered v4l2
> device, streamtype 6 minor 228
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Create stream 7
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Registered v4l2
> device, streamtype 7 minor 232
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Create DMA stream 8
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Registered v4l2
> device, streamtype 8 minor 48
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Setting Tuner 47
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Setting audio
> matrix to input 3, output 1
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Switching standard
> to NTSC.
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: ivtv_enc_thread:
> pid = 2927, itv = 0xe0bd31a0
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: ivtv_dec_thread:
> pid = 2928, itv = 0xe0bd31a0
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv: Initialized WinTV
> PVR 350, card #0
> Jan 31 22:47:48 star kernel: ivtv:
> ==================== END INIT IVTV
> ====================
> Jan 31 22:48:17 star kernel: ivtv: i2c attach
> [client=saa7127[0],ok]
> Jan 31 22:49:56 star kernel: ivtv: i2c attach
> [client=saa7127[0],ok]
> Jan 31 22:55:49 star kernel: ivtv: ENC: User stopped
> capture.
> Jan 31 23:01:58 star kernel: ivtv: ENC: User stopped
> capture.
>
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My problem was caused by the Saa7127 module changing to NTSC whenver
it was unloaded and reloaded (it had originally started out correctly
in PAL). This was happening when I was testing the test pattern, with
the results I was feeding an incompatible signal to my TV. The fix
therefore was to skip the test pattern step as I already knew it
worked, although I'm not sure that this is applicable to you as you
seem to by in NTSC land already.

One thing you could try is:

/usr/bin/ivtvfbctl /dev/fb1 -alpha -on -globalalpha -nolocalalpha
or
/usr/bin/ivtvfbctl /dev/fb0 -noglobalalpha -localalpha

before you start piping video through the PVR 350's TV out.

Failing that, what goes in /var/log/messages when you load and reload
the Saa7127 module?

minh_duong at yahoo

Feb 1, 2005, 11:01 AM

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Re: PVR 350 TV Out [In reply to]

Chris, thanks for responding. It appears my situation
is similiar but not exactly like yours as my TV
standard is NTSC.

I do use
$>/usr/bin/ivtvfbctl /dev/fb0 -noglobalalpha
-localalpha
$>dd if=/dev/video0 of=/dev/video16 bs=64k

But it's still the same pattern. I'll try to load
from scratch and not use the test image. I think
though that when I load the ivtv-fb module it creates
the bad pattern.

Minh

--- Chris Martin <council.tax [at] gmail> wrote:

My problem was caused by the Saa7127 module changing
to NTSC whenver
it was unloaded and reloaded (it had originally
started out correctly
in PAL). This was happening when I was testing the
test pattern, with
the results I was feeding an incompatible signal to my
TV. The fix
therefore was to skip the test pattern step as I
already knew it
worked, although I'm not sure that this is applicable
to you as you
seem to by in NTSC land already.

One thing you could try is:

/usr/bin/ivtvfbctl /dev/fb1 -alpha -on -globalalpha
-nolocalalpha
or
/usr/bin/ivtvfbctl /dev/fb0 -noglobalalpha -localalpha

before you start piping video through the PVR 350's TV
out.

Failing that, what goes in /var/log/messages when you
load and reload
the Saa7127 module?

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Feb 1, 2005, 11:59 AM

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RE: Re: PVR 350 TV Out [In reply to]

Make sure you don't have any strange old parameters in modprobe.conf. It has
been known to cause that sort of a problem.

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv [mailto:mythtv-users-
> bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Minh Duong
> Sent: 01 February 2005 19:01
> To: mythtv-users [at] mythtv; council.tax.@gmail.com
> Subject: [mythtv-users] Re: PVR 350 TV Out
>
> Chris, thanks for responding. It appears my situation
> is similiar but not exactly like yours as my TV
> standard is NTSC.
>
> I do use
> $>/usr/bin/ivtvfbctl /dev/fb0 -noglobalalpha
> -localalpha
> $>dd if=/dev/video0 of=/dev/video16 bs=64k
>
> But it's still the same pattern. I'll try to load
> from scratch and not use the test image. I think
> though that when I load the ivtv-fb module it creates
> the bad pattern.
>
> Minh
>
> --- Chris Martin <council.tax [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> My problem was caused by the Saa7127 module changing
> to NTSC whenver
> it was unloaded and reloaded (it had originally
> started out correctly
> in PAL). This was happening when I was testing the
> test pattern, with
> the results I was feeding an incompatible signal to my
> TV. The fix
> therefore was to skip the test pattern step as I
> already knew it
> worked, although I'm not sure that this is applicable
> to you as you
> seem to by in NTSC land already.
>
> One thing you could try is:
>
> /usr/bin/ivtvfbctl /dev/fb1 -alpha -on -globalalpha
> -nolocalalpha
> or
> /usr/bin/ivtvfbctl /dev/fb0 -noglobalalpha -localalpha
>
> before you start piping video through the PVR 350's TV
> out.
>
> Failing that, what goes in /var/log/messages when you
> load and reload
> the Saa7127 module?
>
>
>
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Feb 1, 2005, 8:58 PM

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RE: Re: PVR 350 TV Out [In reply to]

John,

I tried to keep the modprobe.conf simple:

--------------------------------
#ivtv modules setup
alias char-major-81 videodev
alias char-major-81-0 ivtv
alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
#install ivtv /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install;
/sbin/modprobe ivtv-fb

alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c
install lirc_i2c /sbin/modprobe ivtv; /sbin/modprobe
--ignore-install lirc_i2c

------------------------------

I have made some progress. I tried to run X through
the TV out to get more information. That failed as
expected. But from the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, it said
that ivtvdev module could not be found. So I
installed ivtvdev-0.8-1.rhfc2.at.i386.rpm. Now the
black and white pattern is replaced by a solid green
screen. Still no video but at least it's something.

Searching on the web, it was suggested that the issue
might be that I have a newer model than 990 and I
would have to use saa7129 instead of saa7127. I tried
changing the registers using ivtvctl -j
reg=0x6c,val=0xfa -d /dev/video16 but that didn't
work. I haven't been able to find how to determine my
model.

--- John Harvey <john.p.harvey [at] btinternet> wrote:

> Make sure you don't have any strange old parameters
> in modprobe.conf. It has
> been known to cause that sort of a problem.
>
> John
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv
> [mailto:mythtv-users-
> > bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Minh Duong
> > Sent: 01 February 2005 19:01
> > To: mythtv-users [at] mythtv;
> council.tax.@gmail.com
> > Subject: [mythtv-users] Re: PVR 350 TV Out
> >
> > Chris, thanks for responding. It appears my
> situation
> > is similiar but not exactly like yours as my TV
> > standard is NTSC.
> >
> > I do use
> > $>/usr/bin/ivtvfbctl /dev/fb0 -noglobalalpha
> > -localalpha
> > $>dd if=/dev/video0 of=/dev/video16 bs=64k
> >
> > But it's still the same pattern. I'll try to load
> > from scratch and not use the test image. I think
> > though that when I load the ivtv-fb module it
> creates
> > the bad pattern.
> >
> > Minh
> >
> > --- Chris Martin <council.tax [at] gmail> wrote:
> >
> > My problem was caused by the Saa7127 module
> changing
> > to NTSC whenver
> > it was unloaded and reloaded (it had originally
> > started out correctly
> > in PAL). This was happening when I was testing the
> > test pattern, with
> > the results I was feeding an incompatible signal
> to my
> > TV. The fix
> > therefore was to skip the test pattern step as I
> > already knew it
> > worked, although I'm not sure that this is
> applicable
> > to you as you
> > seem to by in NTSC land already.
> >
> > One thing you could try is:
> >
> > /usr/bin/ivtvfbctl /dev/fb1 -alpha -on
> -globalalpha
> > -nolocalalpha
> > or
> > /usr/bin/ivtvfbctl /dev/fb0 -noglobalalpha
> -localalpha
> >
> > before you start piping video through the PVR
> 350's TV
> > out.
> >
> > Failing that, what goes in /var/log/messages when
> you
> > load and reload
> > the Saa7127 module?
> >
> >
> >
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