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linuxgeek at thedynaplex

Dec 16, 2003, 7:42 PM

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On ivtv..

I'm a bit confused about this ivtv everyone is using. I'm not sure I really
need it for my current PVR card (WinTV-PVR model 880). Can anyone tell me if
I really need ivtv or not?

8-Dale
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sbower at cisco

Dec 16, 2003, 9:00 PM

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Re: On ivtv.. [In reply to]

As written by Dale Weber <linuxgeek[at]thedynaplex.net>:
> I'm a bit confused about this ivtv everyone is using. I'm not sure I
> really need it for my current PVR card (WinTV-PVR model 880). Can
> anyone tell me if I really need ivtv or not?

5 seconds at google reveals the ivtv project FAQ. Discovering the exact
URL is your homework assignment. :-)

If the FAQ doesn't answer your questions, it contains pointers to other
resources.

May your research be fruitful!

Steve.

P.S. Eric Raymond has an excellent treatise on asking *good* questions
of computer geeks; see the section "Before You Ask"... :-)

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

linuxgeek at thedynaplex

Dec 16, 2003, 10:02 PM

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Re: On ivtv.. [In reply to]

On Tuesday 16 December 2003 08:00 pm, Steve Bower wrote:

> 5 seconds at google reveals the ivtv project FAQ. Discovering the exact
> URL is your homework assignment. :-)
>
> If the FAQ doesn't answer your questions, it contains pointers to other
> resources.
>
> May your research be fruitful!

I've been through google and found several things regarding ivtv, which did
not answer the question I still have. I am trying to figure out whether I
need ivtv for my older WinTV/PVR card (not a 250 or 350, but an old model
880).

> P.S. Eric Raymond has an excellent treatise on asking *good* questions
> of computer geeks; see the section "Before You Ask"... :-)

I know how to ask questions just fine. :D I always go searching the net for
answers BEFORE I ask questions. I just can't seem to find the answer to this
one so far.

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wd at pobox

Dec 16, 2003, 10:20 PM

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Re: On ivtv.. [In reply to]

At 09:02 PM 12/16/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> I've been through google and found several things regarding ivtv, which did
>not answer the question I still have. I am trying to figure out whether I
>need ivtv for my older WinTV/PVR card (not a 250 or 350, but an old model
>880).

http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2003-November/020984.html

-WD

linuxgeek at thedynaplex

Dec 16, 2003, 10:49 PM

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Re: On ivtv.. [In reply to]

On Tuesday 16 December 2003 09:20 pm, Will Dormann wrote:
> http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2003-November/020984.html

My comments below relate to the posting referenced above and my own direct
experiences only.

I looked at this, but there is no definition of what is not supported. There
obvious is -some- support through standard kernel modules, because I can get
a picture when using XawTV - not a good picture at present, but a picture. I
have had sound from this card under Linux before also.

To see this posting say the card is not supported, at least not without
qualification of the answer, doesn't seem quite right. To me, when somebody
says "it is not supported", it means NO part of it is supported. This
clearly is not the case for the model 880 WinTV/PVR card.

If the PVR portions of the card are not supported, then I have no more reason
to deal with this older model 880 and will hold off on MythTV until I can get
a PVR/350. This is the entire question I am trying to answer right now,
without success. The hardware of the model 880 seems to be plenty good
enough to deserve proper support.

Maybe it's time for me to just shove MythTV and such to the sidelines until I
get one of the newer and better supported PVR capable cards.

8-Dale
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jcw at wilsonet

Dec 16, 2003, 11:09 PM

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Re: On ivtv.. [In reply to]

On Dec 16, 2003, at 21:49, Dale Weber wrote:

> On Tuesday 16 December 2003 09:20 pm, Will Dormann wrote:
>> http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2003-November/020984.html
>
> My comments below relate to the posting referenced above and my own
> direct
> experiences only.
>
> I looked at this, but there is no definition of what is not
> supported. There
> obvious is -some- support through standard kernel modules, because I
> can get
> a picture when using XawTV - not a good picture at present, but a
> picture. I
> have had sound from this card under Linux before also.
>
> To see this posting say the card is not supported, at least not
> without
> qualification of the answer, doesn't seem quite right. To me, when
> somebody
> says "it is not supported", it means NO part of it is supported. This
> clearly is not the case for the model 880 WinTV/PVR card.
>
> If the PVR portions of the card are not supported, then I have no
> more reason
> to deal with this older model 880 and will hold off on MythTV until I
> can get
> a PVR/350. This is the entire question I am trying to answer right
> now,
> without success. The hardware of the model 880 seems to be plenty good
> enough to deserve proper support.

Here's qualification: it uses a completely different chipset. The ivtv
driver only supports iTVC15/16 aka CX23415/23416 chipsets. The
WinTV-PVR-PCI uses a combination of Fusion878A and some other chip that
I don't recall (check your PCB) for the hardware encoding.

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linuxgeek at thedynaplex

Dec 16, 2003, 11:50 PM

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Re: On ivtv.. [In reply to]

On Tuesday 16 December 2003 10:09 pm, Jarod C. Wilson wrote:

> Here's qualification: it uses a completely different chipset. The ivtv
> driver only supports iTVC15/16 aka CX23415/23416 chipsets. The
> WinTV-PVR-PCI uses a combination of Fusion878A and some other chip that
> I don't recall (check your PCB) for the hardware encoding.

Thanks very much!

This is the sort of answer I have been looking for, to the point, answers the
question, and easy to understand. :) I won't waste time trying to get this
older model 880 card to do PVR functions under Linux then. I will wait to do
more with Myth until I can get a PVR/350. :)

8-Dale
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jcw at wilsonet

Dec 17, 2003, 12:07 AM

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Re: On ivtv.. [In reply to]

On Dec 16, 2003, at 22:50, Dale Weber wrote:

> On Tuesday 16 December 2003 10:09 pm, Jarod C. Wilson wrote:
>
>> Here's qualification: it uses a completely different chipset. The ivtv
>> driver only supports iTVC15/16 aka CX23415/23416 chipsets. The
>> WinTV-PVR-PCI uses a combination of Fusion878A and some other chip
>> that
>> I don't recall (check your PCB) for the hardware encoding.
>
> Thanks very much!

No problemo.

> This is the sort of answer I have been looking for, to the point,
> answers the
> question, and easy to understand. :)

I aim to please. ;p

> I won't waste time trying to get this
> older model 880 card to do PVR functions under Linux then. I will wait
> to do
> more with Myth until I can get a PVR/350. :)

Well, if you want to cut your teeth a bit, I believe you can simply use
the bttv driver with software encoding on that card, but I'm not
positive.

--
Jarod C. Wilson, RHCE

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linuxgeek at thedynaplex

Dec 17, 2003, 7:32 AM

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Re: On ivtv.. [In reply to]

On Tuesday 16 December 2003 11:07 pm, Jarod C. Wilson wrote:
> On Dec 16, 2003, at 22:50, Dale Weber wrote:

> Well, if you want to cut your teeth a bit, I believe you can simply use
> the bttv driver with software encoding on that card, but I'm not
> positive.

I think I will just wait until I get a card I can use. Until then I will do
what I can to learn more about ivtv and keep trying to get it to compile,
since I know I will eventually need it. I already spent my Christmas money
on a new cell phone, but wish I had used that to get a PVR/350 now.

8-Dale
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