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tjharris at weaselworkz

Sep 13, 2010, 9:24 AM

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Scheduling and NFL games

Now that we're back in the NFL season, I remember why I have four
tuners. Unfortunately, due to some existing recording schedules
(Golf & US Open Tennis) and the "End Late" 60 minutes to avoid missing
game endings and overtime, my four tuners were not enough and I
missed the one game I was most interested in.

So, I'm wondering what solutions others have come up with to handle
this. What I'm looking for is:

Record ANY "NFL Football" on any channel at any time, End 60 minutes
late - unless there is another NFL Football recording immediately
after the first (i.e. don't record the same channel simultaneously).
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anothersname at googlemail

Sep 13, 2010, 9:38 AM

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Re: Scheduling and NFL games [In reply to]

On 13 September 2010 17:24, TJ Harris <tjharris [at] weaselworkz> wrote:
> Now that we're back in the NFL season, I remember why I have four
> tuners. Unfortunately, due to some existing recording schedules
> (Golf & US Open Tennis) and the "End Late" 60 minutes to avoid missing
> game endings and overtime, my four tuners were not enough and I
> missed the one game I was most interested in.
>
> So, I'm wondering what solutions others have come up with to handle
> this. What I'm looking for is:
>
> Record ANY "NFL Football" on any channel at any time, End 60 minutes
> late - unless there is another NFL Football recording immediately
> after the first (i.e. don't record the same channel simultaneously).
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Can't you use multirec to give you say 8 virtual tuners?
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kkuphal at gmail

Sep 13, 2010, 10:17 AM

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Re: Scheduling and NFL games [In reply to]

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:24 AM, TJ Harris <tjharris [at] weaselworkz>wrote:

> Now that we're back in the NFL season, I remember why I have four
> tuners. Unfortunately, due to some existing recording schedules
> (Golf & US Open Tennis) and the "End Late" 60 minutes to avoid missing
> game endings and overtime, my four tuners were not enough and I
> missed the one game I was most interested in.
>
> So, I'm wondering what solutions others have come up with to handle
> this. What I'm looking for is:
>
> Record ANY "NFL Football" on any channel at any time, End 60 minutes
> late - unless there is another NFL Football recording immediately
> after the first (i.e. don't record the same channel simultaneously).
>

I've used the "Add extra time to this category" feature of Myth with some
success to add 60 minutes to the end of "Sporting Events". Of course, this
requires that the guide data classifies it as such. None of the options
you'll get will be definitive to do automatic scheduling and get everything
right 100% of the time. Worst case is once a week you go and add overrides
for a couple games to end normally so you don't overlap.

Kevin

Dean at cognation

Sep 13, 2010, 12:35 PM

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Re: Scheduling and NFL games [In reply to]

Lol TJ, we fired up www.LiveFootballChat.com this week for the second
season.
Bring it on.

Cheers,
Dean

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>
> Now that we're back in the NFL season, I remember why I have four
> tuners. Unfortunately, due to some existing recording schedules
> (Golf & US Open Tennis) and the "End Late" 60 minutes to avoid missing
> game endings and overtime, my four tuners were not enough and I
> missed the one game I was most interested in.
>
> So, I'm wondering what solutions others have come up with to handle
> this. What I'm looking for is:
>
> Record ANY "NFL Football" on any channel at any time, End 60 minutes
> late - unless there is another NFL Football recording immediately
> after the first (i.e. don't record the same channel simultaneously).
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greg at gregandeva

Sep 13, 2010, 3:04 PM

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Re: Scheduling and NFL games [In reply to]

On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 12:17 -0500, Kevin Kuphal wrote:

> None of the options you'll get will be definitive to do automatic
> scheduling and get everything right 100% of the time.

And, of course, the automatic scheduler has no way of knowing which game
is that one you don't want to miss, and Murphy will get in there to make
sure it chooses the wrong one to skip )-:

> Worst case is once a week you go and add overrides for a couple games
> to end normally so you don't overlap.

This is basically what I end up doing.

--Greg

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jerome at supernet

Sep 14, 2010, 10:07 AM

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Re: Scheduling and NFL games [In reply to]

On Monday 13 September 2010, Dean Collins <Dean [at] cognation> wrote:
> Lol TJ, we fired up www.LiveFootballChat.com this week for the second
> season.
> Bring it on.

Doesn't a PVR, and time-shifting, make these Live Chat things not so
useful? I find I have to avoid news- and sports-oriented sites if I want
to maintain my interest in events I haven't watched yet. And if I did have
any interest in chatting about an event, I'd be way behind the
live-watchers.
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tjharris at weaselworkz

Sep 16, 2010, 1:10 PM

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Re: Scheduling and NFL games [In reply to]

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Kevin Kuphal <kkuphal [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:24 AM, TJ Harris <tjharris [at] weaselworkz>
> wrote:
>>
>> Now that we're back in the NFL season, I remember why I have four
>> tuners. Unfortunately, due to some existing recording schedules
>> (Golf & US Open Tennis) and the "End Late" 60 minutes to avoid missing
>> game endings and overtime, my four tuners were not enough and I
>> missed the one game I was most interested in.
>>
>> So, I'm wondering what solutions others have come up with to handle
>> this. What I'm looking for is:
>>
>> Record ANY "NFL Football" on any channel at any time, End 60 minutes
>> late - unless there is another NFL Football recording immediately
>> after the first (i.e. don't record the same channel simultaneously).
>
> I've used the "Add extra time to this category" feature of Myth with some
> success to add 60 minutes to the end of "Sporting Events". Of course, this
> requires that the guide data classifies it as such.

Does that just add extra time to all recordings, or is it intelligent
about overlapping programs?

My current recording schedule is pretty simple -- a single "record any
NFL Football", which has 60 minutes extra time on it. So, making
sure the recording is extended is not a problem.
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tjharris at weaselworkz

Sep 16, 2010, 1:16 PM

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Re: Scheduling and NFL games [In reply to]

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Another Sillyname
<anothersname [at] googlemail> wrote:
> On 13 September 2010 17:24, TJ Harris <tjharris [at] weaselworkz> wrote:
>> Now that we're back in the NFL season, I remember why I have four
>> tuners. Unfortunately, due to some existing recording schedules
>> (Golf & US Open Tennis) and the "End Late" 60 minutes to avoid missing
>> game endings and overtime, my four tuners were not enough and I
>> missed the one game I was most interested in.
>>
>> So, I'm wondering what solutions others have come up with to handle
>> this. What I'm looking for is:
>>
>> Record ANY "NFL Football" on any channel at any time, End 60 minutes
>> late - unless there is another NFL Football recording immediately
>> after the first (i.e. don't record the same channel simultaneously).
>> _______________________________________________
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>> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
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>>
>
> Can't you use multirec to give you say 8 virtual tuners?

Thanks, that's a good tip.

Unfortunately, none of the 3 channels which carry NFL games in my area
share the same QAM256 channel, so multirec would not help me.
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crow.jamesm at gmail

Sep 17, 2010, 5:56 AM

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Re: Scheduling and NFL games [In reply to]

>>
>> Can't you use multirec to give you say 8 virtual tuners?
>
> Thanks, that's a good tip.
>
> Unfortunately, none of the 3 channels which carry NFL games in my area
> share the same QAM256 channel, so multirec would not help me.

Does multirec allow back to back overlapping recordings on the same
channel? I am in the same situation with FOX, CBS, and NBC on
different QAM channels. Multirec does not allow me to record 2 games
(on different major networks) from 1 physical card, but it might allow
overlapping recordings on the same channel. I would much rather have
extra video I need to delete than miss a game or overtime.

Thanks,
James
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Sep 17, 2010, 6:29 AM

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Re: Scheduling and NFL games [In reply to]

On 17 September 2010 13:56, James Crow <crow.jamesm [at] gmail> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can't you use multirec to give you say 8 virtual tuners?
>>
>> Thanks, that's a good tip.
>>
>> Unfortunately, none of the 3 channels which carry NFL games in my area
>> share the same QAM256 channel, so multirec would not help me.
>
> Does multirec allow back to back overlapping recordings on the same
> channel? I am in the same situation with FOX, CBS, and NBC on
> different QAM channels. Multirec does not allow me to record 2 games
> (on different major networks) from 1 physical card, but it might allow
> overlapping recordings on the same channel. I would much rather have
> extra video I need to delete than miss a game or overtime.
>
> Thanks,
> James
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I think it might if you set up the second recording as a manual
recording.......I'd test it though first as it may bork the first
recording!!
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