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nico at youplala

Sep 8, 2010, 3:52 AM

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First DVB-T2 tuner announced - Hauppauge PCTV Nanostick T2 290e

Found on the linux-media list:

http://www.wegotserved.com/2010/09/04/ifa-2010-hauppauge-announces-freeview-hd-dvbt2-tuner-pc/

http://www.wegotserved.com/2010/09/06/ifa-2010-pctv-nanostick-t2-290e-freeview-hd-tuner-full-specs-data-sheet/

Nico


steve at moonfoundation

Sep 8, 2010, 4:10 AM

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Re: First DVB-T2 tuner announced - Hauppauge PCTV Nanostick T2 290e [In reply to]

> Found on the linux-media list:
>
> http://www.wegotserved.com/2010/09/04/ifa-2010-hauppauge-announces-freeview-hd-dvbt2-tuner-pc/
>
> http://www.wegotserved.com/2010/09/06/ifa-2010-pctv-nanostick-t2-290e-freeview-hd-tuner-full-specs-data-sheet/
>

Excellent news! I wonder if a) they'll release a PCI version and b) how
much work will be required under Linux to support these devices?


Steve



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Sep 8, 2010, 4:24 AM

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Re: First DVB-T2 tuner announced - Hauppauge PCTV Nanostick T2 290e [In reply to]

Steve Netting wrote:
>> Found on the linux-media list:
>>
>> http://www.wegotserved.com/2010/09/04/ifa-2010-hauppauge-announces-freeview-hd-dvbt2-tuner-pc/
>>
>> http://www.wegotserved.com/2010/09/06/ifa-2010-pctv-nanostick-t2-290e-freeview-hd-tuner-full-specs-data-sheet/
>>
>
> Excellent news! I wonder if a) they'll release a PCI version and b) how
> much work will be required under Linux to support these devices?
>
Why would you need a PCI version? Have you run out of USB ports?

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Sep 8, 2010, 6:42 AM

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Re: First DVB-T2 tuner announced - Hauppauge PCTV Nanostick T2 290e [In reply to]

On 8 September 2010 12:24, Mike Perkins <mikep [at] randomtraveller> wrote:
> Steve Netting wrote:
>>>
>>> Found on the linux-media list:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.wegotserved.com/2010/09/04/ifa-2010-hauppauge-announces-freeview-hd-dvbt2-tuner-pc/
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.wegotserved.com/2010/09/06/ifa-2010-pctv-nanostick-t2-290e-freeview-hd-tuner-full-specs-data-sheet/
>>>
>>
>> Excellent news!  I wonder if a) they'll release a PCI version and b) how
>> much work will be required under Linux to support these devices?
>>
> Why would you need a PCI version? Have you run out of USB ports?
>
> --
>
> Mike Perkins
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In my experience USB TV tuners can get a little toasty sometimes, I'd
always opt for a PCI-e version if it was available purely for better
thermal management.
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gordon.mccrae at googlemail

Sep 8, 2010, 6:53 AM

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On 08/09/10 14:42, Another Sillyname wrote:
> <SNIP>
>> Why would you need a PCI version? Have you run out of USB ports?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike Perkins
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> In my experience USB TV tuners can get a little toasty sometimes, I'd
> always opt for a PCI-e version if it was available purely for better
> thermal management.
> _______________________________________________
>
Surely that thinking is backwards; better to have the "toasty"
components external to the case than internal?

From what I know, the PCI DVB-T in fact contains the same chips as the
USB, so better to have them outside the case.

Also, having them external makes for simpler swapout etc. and testing on
UAT rig, I know my biggest problem with upgrades is always with having
to move PCI cards around.

Cheers
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anothersname at googlemail

Sep 8, 2010, 7:01 AM

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On 8 September 2010 14:53, Gordon McCrae <gordon.mccrae [at] googlemail> wrote:
>  On 08/09/10 14:42, Another Sillyname wrote:
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>>
>>> Why would you need a PCI version? Have you run out of USB ports?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike Perkins
>>>
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>> In my experience USB TV tuners can get a little toasty sometimes, I'd
>> always opt for a PCI-e version if it was available purely for better
>> thermal management.
>> _______________________________________________
>>
> Surely that thinking is backwards; better to have the "toasty" components
> external to the case than internal?
>
> From what I know, the PCI DVB-T in fact contains the same chips as the USB,
> so better to have them outside the case.
>
> Also, having them external makes for simpler swapout etc. and testing on UAT
> rig, I know my biggest problem with upgrades is always with having to move
> PCI cards around.
>
> Cheers
> Gordon
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I disagree with your logic I'm afraid, if I have devices inside the
case I can have cooling and fans to control Thermals, not so easy with
a USB device outside the case. I've used a Hauppauge USB Dual Tuner
stick in the past that was really quite hot to touch when under
extended load, hotter then I personally would find acceptable for a
device 'hanging loose' as it were. I appreciate your comment about
slots being an issue but I use Asus 6 and 7 slot PCI-e motherboards to
solve that problem, swapout for any of my cards can be done in under 2
minutes using thumb screw cases.
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gordon.mccrae at googlemail

Sep 8, 2010, 7:05 AM

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Re: First DVB-T2 tuner announced - Hauppauge PCTV Nanostick T2 290e [In reply to]

On 08/09/10 14:53, Gordon McCrae wrote:
> On 08/09/10 14:42, Another Sillyname wrote:
>> <SNIP>
>>> Why would you need a PCI version? Have you run out of USB ports?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike Perkins
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> mythtv-users mailing list
>>> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
>>> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>>>
>> In my experience USB TV tuners can get a little toasty sometimes, I'd
>> always opt for a PCI-e version if it was available purely for better
>> thermal management.
>> _______________________________________________
>>
> Surely that thinking is backwards; better to have the "toasty"
> components external to the case than internal?
>
> From what I know, the PCI DVB-T in fact contains the same chips as the
> USB, so better to have them outside the case.
>
> Also, having them external makes for simpler swapout etc. and testing
> on UAT rig, I know my biggest problem with upgrades is always with
> having to move PCI cards around.
>
> Cheers
> Gordon
Also, you'll run out of PCI slots quicker than you will USB ports!

I'm happily running 5 Nova-T + 1 Nova-TD, no temperature problems.

Cheers
Gordon

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lists at laser-point

Sep 8, 2010, 7:14 AM

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Re: First DVB-T2 tuner announced - Hauppauge PCTV Nanostick T2 290e [In reply to]

On 08/09/2010 15:05, Gordon McCrae wrote:
> On 08/09/10 14:53, Gordon McCrae wrote:
>> On 08/09/10 14:42, Another Sillyname wrote:
>>> <SNIP>
>>>> Why would you need a PCI version? Have you run out of USB ports?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Mike Perkins
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> mythtv-users mailing list
>>>> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
>>>> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>>>>
>>> In my experience USB TV tuners can get a little toasty sometimes, I'd
>>> always opt for a PCI-e version if it was available purely for better
>>> thermal management.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>> Surely that thinking is backwards; better to have the "toasty"
>> components external to the case than internal?
>>
>> From what I know, the PCI DVB-T in fact contains the same chips as the
>> USB, so better to have them outside the case.
>>
>> Also, having them external makes for simpler swapout etc. and testing
>> on UAT rig, I know my biggest problem with upgrades is always with
>> having to move PCI cards around.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Gordon
> Also, you'll run out of PCI slots quicker than you will USB ports!
>
> I'm happily running 5 Nova-T + 1 Nova-TD, no temperature problems.

I thought the PCI versions were generally more sensitive, due to
having less need to cram the RF circuitry/amp into such a small
space. Is there no truth to that?

Paul.
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daworm at gmail

Sep 8, 2010, 7:15 AM

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Re: First DVB-T2 tuner announced - Hauppauge PCTV Nanostick T2 290e [In reply to]

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Gordon McCrae <gordon.mccrae [at] googlemail
> wrote:

>
> Also, you'll run out of PCI slots quicker than you will USB ports!
>

For me, it would be much better to have a PCI mount, or at least something
that could be mounted on the case backplane, simply because USB connectors
are so easy to break off. One wrong tug on a cable, or catching the cable
on something, and its broken.

Jeff.


steve at moonfoundation

Sep 8, 2010, 7:40 AM

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<snip>

>>
>> Excellent news! I wonder if a) they'll release a PCI version and b) how
>> much work will be required under Linux to support these devices?
>>
> Why would you need a PCI version? Have you run out of USB ports?
>

I prefer devices to be self-contained in my media centre box; not relying
on external USB connections. The only things I use USB for are
wireless keyboard/mouse and occasional backup to a USB drive.

I'm happy with USB on the desktop where quick connect/disconnect is useful
but I tend to avoid USB on anything server related.


Steve


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beww at beww

Sep 8, 2010, 8:14 AM

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On Wednesday, September 08, 2010 08:40:49 am Steve Netting wrote:
> <snip>
>
> >> Excellent news! I wonder if a) they'll release a PCI version and b) how
> >> much work will be required under Linux to support these devices?
> >
> > Why would you need a PCI version? Have you run out of USB ports?
>
> I prefer devices to be self-contained in my media centre box; not relying
> on external USB connections. The only things I use USB for are
> wireless keyboard/mouse and occasional backup to a USB drive.
>
> I'm happy with USB on the desktop where quick connect/disconnect is useful
> but I tend to avoid USB on anything server related.

Likewise. I think the Linux USB subsystem has a significant overhead, such that a USB device will run slower and consume
more resources than a similar device on the PCI or PCI-Express bus.

I also like to have things out of harm's way, safely inside a metal case.

I use USB for cameras, scanners, the occasional external drive for copying or testing, and things like Bluetooth dongles
and cordless mouse/keyboard receivers, anything else is in the case.

Oh, I forget the HD-PVR, couldn't do without that :-)

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