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rcs at malibyte

Jun 30, 2010, 9:06 PM

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Ongoing sound problems/plugins aren't working after update (25171)

Hi all -

Using JYA's 0.23-fixes repositories.

The only problem I've been having with Myth up to this point: sound - most
of the time I have it, sometimes I don't - and when I don't, getting out
of the frontend, running alsamixer and muting/unmuting the "master volume"
would bring it back; I had to do this every so often, and always after
rebooting. A pain in the @$$ but not a dealbreaker, since I usually
control the Myth machine here at the abode; if my daughter wants to watch
something she usually asks me to play it for her - because of this
problem.


I upgraded to JYA's 0.23-fixes, rev. 25171 today - hoping that the recent
audio code changes would give me reliable sound.

After doing the update: (1) none of the plugins work. The database schema
update to 1259 appears to have gone OK, mythfilldatabase ran, but I kept
getting errors about the protocol version (config file says 56, but
actually using 57). I changed the value to 57 in the config file (can't
recall the filename ATM). Still - mythvideo, mythmusic and the internet
video plugins don't work at all. Mythweb comes up, but doesn't display
the previously recorded shows or the upcoming recordings. Listings come
up, I can search on them, but if I try to schedule a recording (via
Mythweb) I get an error:


datetime: 2010-06-30 20:49:49 (PDT)
errornum: 256
error type: User Error
error string: SQL Error: Unknown column 'tsdefault' in 'field list' [#1054]
filename: /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/classes/Database/Query/mysql.php
error line: 83

I assume that I still have a database problem, even though the schema
update appeared to work. The MythTV recordings are all there, though - at
least the frontend seems to find them OK.


Now - sound:

I am using S/PDIF, through the coaxial output into a Sony receiver (7.1
capable, but only using 5.1, because that's my speaker setup; when I have
sound in Myth, it's indeed 5.1, and all other sources (Blu-Ray player,
etc. - work fine).

The onboard sound card has this setting for the S/PDIF output:

iec958:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
HDA Intel, AD198x Digital
IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output

I am using this value in the "audio device" field at the top of the setup
page. No sound at all. Same if I type in "ALSA:spdif". Doesn't matter
what I do, even if I ssh in from another machine, run alsamixer,
mute/unmute. No sound.

If I check "Separate digital audio output device" and use
"ALSA:iec958:0x02" or "0x06" (have to do that last manually):

No sound, but on the receiver, it comes up saying it's a Dolby digital
recording, and the display flashes. If I ssh in from another machine and
run alsamixer, hit the "M" key twice to mute/unmute -> I get 5.1 sound and
the flashing stops.

Now, if I exit that recording and start another - no sound, display
flashes again until I hit "M" twice from the ssh session on the other box.

I tried removing PulseAudio as per:
http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313253

No difference. Rebooted the box at least three times over the past few
hours.

If anyone can help me get these issues straightened out I'd appreciate it.
I had this problem with the plugins before and it resolved after the next
update. No new updates available via the update-manager yet.

The sound problem has got me tearing my hair out. Jean-Yves tried to help
before but to no avail.

If anyone can help with this, please hit me back. If you feel that this
has been beat to death on-list, please e-mail me directly at:

rcs [at] malibyte

Thanks very much.
Bob
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rcs at malibyte

Jun 30, 2010, 10:26 PM

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Re: Ongoing sound problems/plugins aren't working after update (25171) [In reply to]

Perhaps the problem with the plugins is that the version of libmyth I'm
using is 25171, but all of the mythplugins are at 25221. Will wait for
the latest libmyth from JYA before stressing over this, but unfortunately
a couple of the World Cup games and another show are/were scheduled to
record tomorrow. Hope that still happens. Anyway, again, ANY help with
my sound problem will be welcomed.

Thanks again - Bob

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rcs at malibyte

Jul 2, 2010, 10:21 PM

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Re: Ongoing sound problems/plugins aren't working after update (25171) [In reply to]

Bob Sully wrote:
> Hi all -
>
> Using JYA's 0.23-fixes repositories.
>
> The only problem I've been having with Myth up to this point: sound - most
> of the time I have it, sometimes I don't - and when I don't, getting out
> of the frontend, running alsamixer and muting/unmuting the "master volume"
> would bring it back; I had to do this every so often, and always after
> rebooting. A pain in the @$$ but not a dealbreaker, since I usually
> control the Myth machine here at the abode; if my daughter wants to watch
> something she usually asks me to play it for her - because of this
> problem.
>
>
> I upgraded to JYA's 0.23-fixes, rev. 25171 today - hoping that the recent
> audio code changes would give me reliable sound.
>
> After doing the update: (1) none of the plugins work. The database schema
> update to 1259 appears to have gone OK, mythfilldatabase ran, but I kept
> getting errors about the protocol version (config file says 56, but
> actually using 57). I changed the value to 57 in the config file (can't
> recall the filename ATM). Still - mythvideo, mythmusic and the internet
> video plugins don't work at all. Mythweb comes up, but doesn't display
> the previously recorded shows or the upcoming recordings. Listings come
> up, I can search on them, but if I try to schedule a recording (via
> Mythweb) I get an error:
>
>
> datetime: 2010-06-30 20:49:49 (PDT)
> errornum: 256
> error type: User Error
> error string: SQL Error: Unknown column 'tsdefault' in 'field list'
> [#1054]
> filename: /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/classes/Database/Query/mysql.php
> error line: 83
>
> I assume that I still have a database problem, even though the schema
> update appeared to work. The MythTV recordings are all there, though - at
> least the frontend seems to find them OK.
>
>
> Now - sound:
>
> I am using S/PDIF, through the coaxial output into a Sony receiver (7.1
> capable, but only using 5.1, because that's my speaker setup; when I have
> sound in Myth, it's indeed 5.1, and all other sources (Blu-Ray player,
> etc. - work fine).
>
> The onboard sound card has this setting for the S/PDIF output:
>
> iec958:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
> HDA Intel, AD198x Digital
> IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
>
> I am using this value in the "audio device" field at the top of the setup
> page. No sound at all. Same if I type in "ALSA:spdif". Doesn't matter
> what I do, even if I ssh in from another machine, run alsamixer,
> mute/unmute. No sound.
>
> If I check "Separate digital audio output device" and use
> "ALSA:iec958:0x02" or "0x06" (have to do that last manually):
>
> No sound, but on the receiver, it comes up saying it's a Dolby digital
> recording, and the display flashes. If I ssh in from another machine and
> run alsamixer, hit the "M" key twice to mute/unmute -> I get 5.1 sound and
> the flashing stops.
>
> Now, if I exit that recording and start another - no sound, display
> flashes again until I hit "M" twice from the ssh session on the other box.
>
> I tried removing PulseAudio as per:
> http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313253
>
> No difference. Rebooted the box at least three times over the past few
> hours.
>
> If anyone can help me get these issues straightened out I'd appreciate it.
> I had this problem with the plugins before and it resolved after the next
> update. No new updates available via the update-manager yet.
>
> The sound problem has got me tearing my hair out. Jean-Yves tried to help
> before but to no avail.
>
> If anyone can help with this, please hit me back. If you feel that this
> has been beat to death on-list, please e-mail me directly at:
>
> rcs [at] malibyte
>

Replying to my own post - an update:

I have three sets of partitions on my BE/FE's system disk for various
iterations of Myth.

After the upgrade above (JYA's 0.23-fixes/0.24-trunk-25171, with plugins
at 25221, on Ubuntu 9.10) - Myth was basically unusable. Sound was fully
b0rked and I couldn't access my videos (other than Myth recordings) or use
any plugins. I copied this setup to a second set of partitions and
restored my pre-update system from backup (so I now have a working system
again).

The interesting part: I booted again into the dysfunctional system and
did a dist-upgrade to 10.04.

After this upgrade: SOUND IS WORKING - in 5.1, seems reliably - WITHOUT
the need to fart around with alsamixer (as I've had to do for a long
time!), at least with the Myth recordings. ALSA:iec958 is the audio
device, and the "separate audio device" is hw0,1.

I still can't run ANY of the plugins (Protocol version mismatch: the
backend appears to be running 56 and the plugins, 57, or vice versa). It
appears that I won't be able to run my new install until the next update,
when the protocols match.

However, as JYA has been madly updating the sound code, I just wanted to
let him know that this problem may FINALLY be fixed on this machine, with
the changes he's made. Much appreciated!

Bob


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jyavenard at gmail

Jul 3, 2010, 3:30 AM

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Re: Ongoing sound problems/plugins aren't working after update (25171) [In reply to]

Hi

On Saturday, July 3, 2010, Bob Sully <rcs [at] malibyte> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I
>
> After the upgrade above (JYA's 0.23-fixes/0.24-trunk-25171, with plugins
> at 25221, on Ubuntu 9.10) - Myth was basically unusable.  Sound was fully
> b0rked and I couldn't access my videos (other than Myth recordings) or use
> any plugins.  I copied this setup to a second set of partitions and
> restored my pre-update system from backup (so I now have a working system
> again).
>
> The interesting part:  I booted again into the dysfunctional system and
> did a dist-upgrade to 10.04.
>
> After this upgrade:  SOUND IS WORKING - in 5.1, seems reliably - WITHOUT
> the need to fart around with alsamixer (as I've had to do for a long
> time!), at least with the Myth recordings.  ALSA:iec958 is the audio
> device, and the "separate audio device" is hw0,1.
>
> I still can't run ANY of the plugins (Protocol version mismatch: the
> backend appears to be running 56 and the plugins, 57, or vice versa).  It
> appears that I won't be able to run my new install until the next update,
> when the protocols match.
>
> However, as JYA has been madly updating the sound code, I just wanted to
> let him know that this problem may FINALLY be fixed on this machine, with
> the changes he's made.  Much appreciated!
>
> Bob

The sound rework isn't in 0.23 but in trunk.


I will force a recompile of the plugins as it seems the API version
has been changed.

If as your post suggested, you are running a combination of trunk and
0.23 it just won't work.
You have to run either 0.23-fixes or 0.24-trunk, not both... If you
upgrade to trunk, you'll likely have to follow trunk from now on until
it becomes 0.24

Having to mute/unmute is an issue with alsa and the drivers. Nothing
much we can do in myth.
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jyavenard at gmail

Jul 3, 2010, 3:42 AM

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Re: Ongoing sound problems/plugins aren't working after update (25171) [In reply to]

On Thursday, July 1, 2010, Bob Sully <rcs [at] malibyte> wrote:
>
> Perhaps the problem with the plugins is that the version of libmyth I'm
> using is 25171, but all of the mythplugins are at 25221.  Will wait for
> the latest libmyth from JYA before stressing over this, but unfortunately
> a couple of the World Cup games and another show are/were scheduled to
> record tomorrow.  Hope that still happens.  Anyway, again, ANY help with
> my sound problem will be welcomed.
>
> Thanks again -

25171 is the last time some modifications were made to mythtv core,
25221 is the latest version for mythplugins.

Nothing wrong here, I just checked and things are the way it should be.

No audio fix have been put in 0.23-fixes in weeks.
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jyavenard at gmail

Jul 3, 2010, 3:45 AM

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Re: Ongoing sound problems/plugins aren't working after update (25171) [In reply to]

Hi



On Thursday, July 1, 2010, Bob Sully <rcs [at] malibyte> wrote:
> After doing the update: (1) none of the plugins work.  The database schema
> update to 1259 appears to have gone OK, mythfilldatabase ran, but I

1259 is the database version used in trunk. 0.23 is 1254 I think

Looks to me that you mixed trunk with 0.23-fixes packages.

Thats why you're having compatibility issues by the look of things
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jyavenard at gmail

Jul 3, 2010, 3:54 AM

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Re: Ongoing sound problems/plugins aren't working after update (25171) [In reply to]

Hi



On Thursday, July 1, 2010, Bob Sully <rcs [at] malibyte> wrote:
> After doing the update: (1) none of the plugins work.  The database schema
> update to 1259 appears to have gone OK, mythfilldatabase ran, but I

1259 is the database version used in trunk. 0.23 is 1254 I think

Looks to me that you mixed trunk with 0.23-fixes packages.

Thats why you're having compatibility issues by the look of things
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rcs at malibyte

Jul 4, 2010, 12:12 AM

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Re: Ongoing sound problems/plugins aren't working after update (25171) [In reply to]

Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:
> Hi
>
>
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2010, Bob Sully <rcs [at] malibyte> wrote:
>> After doing the update: (1) none of the plugins work.  The database
>> schema
>> update to 1259 appears to have gone OK, mythfilldatabase ran, but I
>
> 1259 is the database version used in trunk. 0.23 is 1254 I think
>
> Looks to me that you mixed trunk with 0.23-fixes packages.
>
> Thats why you're having compatibility issues by the look of things
>

Jean-Yves -

Yes, you are absolutely right.

My /etc/apt/sources.list.d/avenard.list file had BOTH the "release" and
"testing" lines uncommented - not sure why, last time I updated (from
jaunty to karmic) I made sure I was only using the "release" repo.

Anyway, got this cleaned up, everything's back on 0.23-fixes, and now I
have everything running under 10.04 (using the 256-series nvidia drivers).
All looks well now.

Thanks again for all your efforts -
Bob
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