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Seppl at dcemail

Jun 17, 2010, 11:41 PM

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Optimizing Livetv for AMD?

Hi all,
i have the GM890 Pro3 Mainboard (Containing a ATI HD 4290)
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=890GM%20Pro3&cat=Specific
ations
As TV card i'm using a TEVII S470
I've did the folowing guide:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/amd-hd-serie
s-graphics-guide-optimizing-video-playback-for-mythtv-mplayer-and-oth
ers-786335/

But if i use this:
* Decoder leave at Standard.
* Video Renderer Set to: OpenGL
* OSD Renderer Set to: OpenGL2
* Next Screen (Deinterlacers)
o Primary Deinterlacer Set to: Bob(2x,HW)
o Fallback Deinterlacer Set to: Linear Blend(HW)
CPU Goes up to 80%

And if i use this:
* Decoder change to VIA XvMC
* Next Screen (Deinterlacers)
o Primary Deinterlacer set to One Field
o Fallback Deinterlacer set to One Field
I always get the message
2010-06-13 12:16:14.071 VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'xvmc-blit' not available.
codec 'H264' makes 'xv-blit,xshm,xlib,' available, using 'xv-blit' instead.
2010-06-13 12:16:14.071 VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'xvmc-blit' not available.
codec 'MPEG2' makes 'xv-blit,xshm,xlib,' available, using 'xv-blit' instead.

Anybody can help me according this?

Kind Regards
/Seppl

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nick.rout at gmail

Jun 18, 2010, 12:27 AM

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Re: Optimizing Livetv for AMD? [In reply to]

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Sepp Herrberger <Seppl [at] dcemail> wrote:
> Hi all,
> i have the GM890 Pro3 Mainboard (Containing a ATI HD 4290)
> http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=890GM%20Pro3&cat=Specific
> ations
> As TV card i'm using a TEVII S470
> I've did the folowing guide:
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/amd-hd-serie
> s-graphics-guide-optimizing-video-playback-for-mythtv-mplayer-and-oth
> ers-786335/
>
> But if i use this:
> * Decoder leave at Standard.
> * Video Renderer Set to: OpenGL
> * OSD Renderer Set to: OpenGL2
> * Next Screen (Deinterlacers)
> o Primary Deinterlacer Set to: Bob(2x,HW)
> o Fallback Deinterlacer Set to: Linear Blend(HW)
> CPU Goes up to 80%
>
> And if i use this:
> * Decoder change to VIA XvMC
> * Next Screen (Deinterlacers)
> o Primary Deinterlacer set to One Field
> o Fallback Deinterlacer set to One Field
> I always get the message
> 2010-06-13 12:16:14.071 VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'xvmc-blit' not available.
> codec 'H264' makes 'xv-blit,xshm,xlib,' available, using 'xv-blit' instead.
> 2010-06-13 12:16:14.071 VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'xvmc-blit' not available.
> codec 'MPEG2' makes 'xv-blit,xshm,xlib,' available, using 'xv-blit' instead.
>
> Anybody can help me according this?

yep, get an nvidia 220 or 240 :)
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Seppl at dcemail

Jun 18, 2010, 12:54 AM

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Re: Optimizing Livetv for AMD? [In reply to]

Okay and after that?

--- nick.rout [at] gmail wrote:

From: Nick Rout <nick.rout [at] gmail>
To: Seppl [at] dcemail, Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Optimizing Livetv for AMD?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:27:26 +1200

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Sepp Herrberger <Seppl [at] dcemail> wrote:
> Hi all,
> i have the GM890 Pro3 Mainboard (Containing a ATI HD 4290)
> http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=890GM%20Pro3&cat=Specific
> ations
> As TV card i'm using a TEVII S470
> I've did the folowing guide:
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/amd-hd-serie
> s-graphics-guide-optimizing-video-playback-for-mythtv-mplayer-and-oth
> ers-786335/
>
> But if i use this:
> * Decoder leave at Standard.
> * Video Renderer Set to: OpenGL
> * OSD Renderer Set to: OpenGL2
> * Next Screen (Deinterlacers)
> o Primary Deinterlacer Set to: Bob(2x,HW)
> o Fallback Deinterlacer Set to: Linear Blend(HW)
> CPU Goes up to 80%
>
> And if i use this:
> * Decoder change to VIA XvMC
> * Next Screen (Deinterlacers)
> o Primary Deinterlacer set to One Field
> o Fallback Deinterlacer set to One Field
> I always get the message
> 2010-06-13 12:16:14.071 VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'xvmc-blit' not available.
> codec 'H264' makes 'xv-blit,xshm,xlib,' available, using 'xv-blit' instead.
> 2010-06-13 12:16:14.071 VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'xvmc-blit' not available.
> codec 'MPEG2' makes 'xv-blit,xshm,xlib,' available, using 'xv-blit' instead.
>
> Anybody can help me according this?

yep, get an nvidia 220 or 240 :)
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nick.rout at gmail

Jun 18, 2010, 12:55 AM

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Re: Optimizing Livetv for AMD? [In reply to]

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Sepp Herrberger <Seppl [at] dcemail> wrote:
> Okay and after that?

use the vdpau settings and be done with it :)
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Seppl at dcemail

Jun 18, 2010, 1:31 AM

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Re: Optimizing Livetv for AMD? [In reply to]

Okay,
but: I don't think it will fit into my half height case :-)
I'm trying this now:
http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/hardware/13352-donation-deal-speed-up-implementation-vaapi.html

--- nick.rout [at] gmail wrote:

From: Nick Rout <nick.rout [at] gmail>
To: Seppl [at] dcemail, Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Optimizing Livetv for AMD?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:55:54 +1200

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Sepp Herrberger <Seppl [at] dcemail> wrote:
> Okay and after that?

use the vdpau settings and be done with it :)
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steve.p.daniels at googlemail

Jun 18, 2010, 2:19 AM

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Re: Optimizing Livetv for AMD? [In reply to]

On 18 June 2010 09:31, Sepp Herrberger <Seppl [at] dcemail> wrote:
> Okay,
> but: I don't think it will fit into my half height case :-)
> I'm trying this now:
> http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/hardware/13352-donation-deal-speed-up-implementation-vaapi.html
>

$20 your joking right?! Or is that your by the minute rate? In that
case it's only 2/3 times my usual rate. But I'm willing to do it. It's
going to take a lot of minutes though. I'm sure Michael et al will
chime in, or maybe bite their tongues for a little while till they
explain how that isn't at all an appropriate amount. But good luck!

On a more serious note, there are plenty of half hight nvidia pdpau
capable cards out there, just Google for 30 seconds and your trip over
loads, Google for another 60 seconds or so and you'll find some to buy
with next day delivery in most countries.

Steve Daniels
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Seppl at dcemail

Jun 18, 2010, 2:25 AM

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Re: Optimizing Livetv for AMD? [In reply to]

Hey,
i'm just starting up and i hope more will join this.
Then the amount will be higher for sure.
Tell an Amount you want to get and i'll post it.

--- steve.p.daniels [at] googlemail wrote:

From: Steve Daniels <steve.p.daniels [at] googlemail>
To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Optimizing Livetv for AMD?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:19:38 +0100

On 18 June 2010 09:31, Sepp Herrberger <Seppl [at] dcemail> wrote:
> Okay,
> but: I don't think it will fit into my half height case :-)
> I'm trying this now:
> http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/hardware/13352-donation-deal-speed-up-implementation-vaapi.html
>

$20 your joking right?! Or is that your by the minute rate? In that
case it's only 2/3 times my usual rate. But I'm willing to do it. It's
going to take a lot of minutes though. I'm sure Michael et al will
chime in, or maybe bite their tongues for a little while till they
explain how that isn't at all an appropriate amount. But good luck!

On a more serious note, there are plenty of half hight nvidia pdpau
capable cards out there, just Google for 30 seconds and your trip over
loads, Google for another 60 seconds or so and you'll find some to buy
with next day delivery in most countries.

Steve Daniels
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Seppl at dcemail

Jun 18, 2010, 2:34 AM

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Re: Optimizing Livetv for AMD? [In reply to]

That means you hour rate is: 1800$ ???

--- Seppl [at] dcemail wrote:

From: "Sepp Herrberger" <Seppl [at] dcemail>
To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Optimizing Livetv for AMD?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 02:25:10 -0700

Hey,
i'm just starting up and i hope more will join this.
Then the amount will be higher for sure.
Tell an Amount you want to get and i'll post it.

--- steve.p.daniels [at] googlemail wrote:

From: Steve Daniels <steve.p.daniels [at] googlemail>
To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Optimizing Livetv for AMD?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:19:38 +0100

On 18 June 2010 09:31, Sepp Herrberger <Seppl [at] dcemail> wrote:
> Okay,
> but: I don't think it will fit into my half height case :-)
> I'm trying this now:
> http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/hardware/13352-donation-deal-speed-up-implementation-vaapi.html
>

$20 your joking right?! Or is that your by the minute rate? In that
case it's only 2/3 times my usual rate. But I'm willing to do it. It's
going to take a lot of minutes though. I'm sure Michael et al will
chime in, or maybe bite their tongues for a little while till they
explain how that isn't at all an appropriate amount. But good luck!

On a more serious note, there are plenty of half hight nvidia pdpau
capable cards out there, just Google for 30 seconds and your trip over
loads, Google for another 60 seconds or so and you'll find some to buy
with next day delivery in most countries.

Steve Daniels
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jyavenard at gmail

Jun 18, 2010, 3:10 AM

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Re: Optimizing Livetv for AMD? [In reply to]

Hi

On 18 June 2010 18:31, Sepp Herrberger <Seppl [at] dcemail> wrote:
> Okay,
> but: I don't think it will fit into my half height case :-)
> I'm trying this now:
> http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/hardware/13352-donation-deal-speed-up-implementation-vaapi.html

Send me a machine with an intel GPU supporting VAAPI, like those tiny
dell box, and I'll do it for free, or you can still donate to the
mythtv project if you still wish to do so.

Jean-Yves
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Jun 18, 2010, 3:23 AM

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Re: Optimizing Livetv for AMD? [In reply to]

Sepp Herrberger wrote:
>
> But if i use this:
> * Decoder leave at Standard.
> * Video Renderer Set to: OpenGL
> * OSD Renderer Set to: OpenGL2
> * Next Screen (Deinterlacers)
> o Primary Deinterlacer Set to: Bob(2x,HW)
> o Fallback Deinterlacer Set to: Linear Blend(HW)
> CPU Goes up to 80%
>
> And if i use this:
> * Decoder change to VIA XvMC
> * Next Screen (Deinterlacers)
> o Primary Deinterlacer set to One Field
> o Fallback Deinterlacer set to One Field
> I always get the message
> 2010-06-13 12:16:14.071 VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'xvmc-blit' not available.
> codec 'H264' makes 'xv-blit,xshm,xlib,' available, using 'xv-blit' instead.
> 2010-06-13 12:16:14.071 VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'xvmc-blit' not available.
> codec 'MPEG2' makes 'xv-blit,xshm,xlib,' available, using 'xv-blit' instead.
>
> Anybody can help me according this?
>
VIA XvMC is not applicable to your motherboard. You have an AMD processor and an
ATI video chipset. VIA XvMC is specifically for VIA chipsets such as is found on
some older Mini-ITX motherboards (amongst others).

While you *can* probably get your Radeon video card to work with varying levels
of user satisfaction, getting an NVidia VDPAU-capable card as suggested by
another responder is the best way (currently) of getting satisfactory display
results.

Next time, check the wiki before spending on a motherboard.

--

Mike Perkins

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Seppl at dcemail

Jun 18, 2010, 8:33 AM

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Re: Optimizing Livetv for AMD? [In reply to]

Hi Jean-Yves,

i've read you're mail but found out that it is easy for you to get a test environment. Just use your current card (which is assume that is an NVIDA) and install this package.
Then install the VDPAU Backend for VAAPI.

http://www.splitted-desktop.com/~gbeauchesne/

Voila you've got VAAPI vor your NVIDIA.

--- jyavenard [at] gmail wrote:

From: Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard [at] gmail>
To: Seppl [at] dcemail, Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Optimizing Livetv for AMD?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:10:48 +1000

Hi

On 18 June 2010 18:31, Sepp Herrberger <Seppl [at] dcemail> wrote:
> Okay,
> but: I don't think it will fit into my half height case :-)
> I'm trying this now:
> http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/hardware/13352-donation-deal-speed-up-implementation-vaapi.html

Send me a machine with an intel GPU supporting VAAPI, like those tiny
dell box, and I'll do it for free, or you can still donate to the
mythtv project if you still wish to do so.

Jean-Yves
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gjhurlbu at gmail

Jun 18, 2010, 4:18 PM

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Re: Optimizing Livetv for AMD? [In reply to]

>
> Send me a machine with an intel GPU supporting VAAPI, like those tiny
> dell box, and I'll do it for free, or you can still donate to the
> mythtv project if you still wish to do so.
>
>
Actually, VAAPI support is on my to-do list. I have appropriate hardware,
and am maybe a week away from starting on it. If Jean-Yves wishes to work
on it instead, he is welcome to it, but I have a vested interest in getting
this working, and already have a GMA500 box to work with.

Now, other VAAPI backends... I will need to get sample hardware (or sample
users at least) for to test it thoroughly, of course. Any donations/loans
of appropriate hardware would work for me. hehe.

Seppl at dcemail

Jun 19, 2010, 4:43 AM

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Re: Optimizing Livetv for AMD? [In reply to]

Hi Gavin,
for sure i will be you're sample user. :-)If you have a solution that i can test feel free to contact me
/Seppl

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From: Gavin Hurlbut <gjhurlbu [at] gmail>
To: Seppl [at] dcemail, Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Optimizing Livetv for AMD?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:18:49 -0700

Send me a machine with an intel GPU supporting VAAPI, like those tiny
dell box, and I'll do it for free, or you can still donate to the
mythtv project if you still wish to do so.

Actually, VAAPI support is on my to-do list. I have appropriate hardware, and am maybe a week away from starting on it. If Jean-Yves wishes to work on it instead, he is welcome to it, but I have a vested interest in getting this working, and already have a GMA500 box to work with.
Now, other VAAPI backends... I will need to get sample hardware (or sample users at least) for to test it thoroughly, of course. Any donations/loans of appropriate hardware would work for me. hehe. _______________________________________________ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users [at] mythtv http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users"]http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users

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