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cgdennis at btinternet

May 9, 2010, 10:48 AM

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Missing channels from Astra 28.2E

Hello MythTV people

This is a problem which I've had for a year or more, but I haven't had
time until now to investigate it fully.

Basically, my list of channels is incomplete, whether I use MythTV's
scanning, or DVB-utils' 'scan' command.

I'm using a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus card, which shows up in lspci as:
00:08.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3
PCI Video and Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05)

The output of this command

scan -a 0 -x -1 -t 7 -U -o zap -l UNIVERSAL ./Astra-28.2E

when ./Astra-28.2E contains this

S 10773000 H 22000000 5/6

is this (heavily edited)

scanning ./Astra-28.2E
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
initial transponder 10773000 H 22000000 5
>>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
0x0000 0x18af: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC THREE (not running)
0x0000 0x18bb: pmt_pid 0x0101 BSkyB -- BBC 1 NI (running)
0x0000 0x18bf: pmt_pid 0x010b BSkyB -- FIVE (running)
0x0000 0x189d: pmt_pid 0x0100 BSkyB -- BBC 1 London (running)
0x0000 0x189e: pmt_pid 0x0102 BSkyB -- BBC 2 England (running)
0x0000 0x18a2: pmt_pid 0x0104 BSkyB -- ETV (running)
0x0000 0x18a5: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC TES 2 (not running)
0x0000 0x18ab: pmt_pid 0x0103 BSkyB -- BBC TES 3 (running)
0x0000 0x18ac: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC FOUR (not running)
0x0000 0x18ad: pmt_pid 0x0106 BSkyB -- CBBC Channel (running)
0x0000 0x18ae: pmt_pid 0x0105 BSkyB -- CBeebies (running)
Network Name 'ASTRA'
... [lots of lines snipped]
>>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
... [lots more lines snipped]

In other words, it finds some channels and not others. Specifically,
the information on pages such as
http://www.lyngsat.com/astra2b.html
and
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f39/bbc-1-2-missing-40088/
suggests that BBC Radio 4 (and others) should be available on
11953:h:027500, but I've never been able to get it.

I can get other radio stations, such as BBC R5L on 10802:h:0:22000.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Is it likely to be the fault of the tuner card, or the LNB, or the
direction the dish is pointing in?

cheers

Chris
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Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK
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anothersname at googlemail

May 9, 2010, 1:19 PM

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Re: Missing channels from Astra 28.2E [In reply to]

On 9 May 2010 18:48, Chris Dennis <cgdennis [at] btinternet> wrote:
> Hello MythTV people
>
> This is a problem which I've had for a year or more, but I haven't had time
> until now to investigate it fully.
>
> Basically, my list of channels is incomplete, whether I use MythTV's
> scanning, or DVB-utils' 'scan' command.
>
> I'm using a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus card, which shows up in lspci as:
> 00:08.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3
> PCI Video and Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05)
>
> The output of this command
>
> scan -a 0 -x -1 -t 7 -U -o zap -l UNIVERSAL ./Astra-28.2E
>
> when ./Astra-28.2E contains this
>
> S 10773000 H 22000000 5/6
>
> is this (heavily edited)
>
> scanning ./Astra-28.2E
> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
> initial transponder 10773000 H 22000000 5
> >>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
> DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
> 0x0000 0x18af: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC THREE (not running)
> 0x0000 0x18bb: pmt_pid 0x0101 BSkyB -- BBC 1 NI (running)
> 0x0000 0x18bf: pmt_pid 0x010b BSkyB -- FIVE (running)
> 0x0000 0x189d: pmt_pid 0x0100 BSkyB -- BBC 1 London (running)
> 0x0000 0x189e: pmt_pid 0x0102 BSkyB -- BBC 2 England (running)
> 0x0000 0x18a2: pmt_pid 0x0104 BSkyB -- ETV (running)
> 0x0000 0x18a5: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC TES 2 (not running)
> 0x0000 0x18ab: pmt_pid 0x0103 BSkyB -- BBC TES 3 (running)
> 0x0000 0x18ac: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC FOUR (not running)
> 0x0000 0x18ad: pmt_pid 0x0106 BSkyB -- CBBC Channel (running)
> 0x0000 0x18ae: pmt_pid 0x0105 BSkyB -- CBeebies (running)
> Network Name 'ASTRA'
> ... [lots of lines snipped]
> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
> DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
> ... [lots more lines snipped]
>
> In other words, it finds some channels and not others. Specifically, the
> information on pages such as
> http://www.lyngsat.com/astra2b.html
> and
> http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f39/bbc-1-2-missing-40088/
> suggests that BBC Radio 4 (and others) should be available on
> 11953:h:027500, but I've never been able to get it.
>
> I can get other radio stations, such as BBC R5L on 10802:h:0:22000.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this?
>
> Is it likely to be the fault of the tuner card, or the LNB, or the direction
> the dish is pointing in?
>
> cheers
>
> Chris
> --
> Chris Dennis cgdennis [at] btinternet
> Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>
Try the following....

11817 freq V polarity 27500 symrate
11953 freq H polarity 27500 symrate

See what you get
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cgdennis at btinternet

May 9, 2010, 2:49 PM

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Re: Missing channels from Astra 28.2E [In reply to]

Another Sillyname wrote:
> On 9 May 2010 18:48, Chris Dennis <cgdennis [at] btinternet> wrote:
>> Hello MythTV people
>>
>> This is a problem which I've had for a year or more, but I haven't had time
>> until now to investigate it fully.
>>
>> Basically, my list of channels is incomplete, whether I use MythTV's
>> scanning, or DVB-utils' 'scan' command.
>>
>> I'm using a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus card, which shows up in lspci as:
>> 00:08.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3
>> PCI Video and Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05)
>>
>> The output of this command
>>
>> scan -a 0 -x -1 -t 7 -U -o zap -l UNIVERSAL ./Astra-28.2E
>>
>> when ./Astra-28.2E contains this
>>
>> S 10773000 H 22000000 5/6
>>
>> is this (heavily edited)
>>
>> scanning ./Astra-28.2E
>> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
>> initial transponder 10773000 H 22000000 5
>> >>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
>> DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
>> 0x0000 0x18af: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC THREE (not running)
>> 0x0000 0x18bb: pmt_pid 0x0101 BSkyB -- BBC 1 NI (running)
>> 0x0000 0x18bf: pmt_pid 0x010b BSkyB -- FIVE (running)
>> 0x0000 0x189d: pmt_pid 0x0100 BSkyB -- BBC 1 London (running)
>> 0x0000 0x189e: pmt_pid 0x0102 BSkyB -- BBC 2 England (running)
>> 0x0000 0x18a2: pmt_pid 0x0104 BSkyB -- ETV (running)
>> 0x0000 0x18a5: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC TES 2 (not running)
>> 0x0000 0x18ab: pmt_pid 0x0103 BSkyB -- BBC TES 3 (running)
>> 0x0000 0x18ac: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC FOUR (not running)
>> 0x0000 0x18ad: pmt_pid 0x0106 BSkyB -- CBBC Channel (running)
>> 0x0000 0x18ae: pmt_pid 0x0105 BSkyB -- CBeebies (running)
>> Network Name 'ASTRA'
>> ... [lots of lines snipped]
>> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>> DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
>> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>> ... [lots more lines snipped]
>>
>> In other words, it finds some channels and not others. Specifically, the
>> information on pages such as
>> http://www.lyngsat.com/astra2b.html
>> and
>> http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f39/bbc-1-2-missing-40088/
>> suggests that BBC Radio 4 (and others) should be available on
>> 11953:h:027500, but I've never been able to get it.
>>
>> I can get other radio stations, such as BBC R5L on 10802:h:0:22000.
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced this?
>>
>> Is it likely to be the fault of the tuner card, or the LNB, or the direction
>> the dish is pointing in?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Chris
>> --
>> Chris Dennis cgdennis [at] btinternet
>> Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK
>> _______________________________________________
>> mythtv-users mailing list
>> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
>> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>>
> Try the following....
>
> 11817 freq V polarity 27500 symrate
> 11953 freq H polarity 27500 symrate
>
> See what you get

I got this:

scanning ./AstraTest
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
initial transponder 11817000 V 27500000 2
initial transponder 11953000 H 27500000 2
>>> tune to: 11817:v:0:27500
DVB-S IF freq is 1217000
WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>>> tune to: 11817:v:0:27500 (tuning failed)
DVB-S IF freq is 1217000
WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500
DVB-S IF freq is 1353000
WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
DVB-S IF freq is 1353000
WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
ERROR: initial tuning failed
dumping lists (0 services)
Done.

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cgdennis at btinternet

May 10, 2010, 3:22 AM

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Re: Missing channels from Astra 28.2E [In reply to]

Chris Dennis wrote:
> Another Sillyname wrote:
>> On 9 May 2010 18:48, Chris Dennis <cgdennis [at] btinternet> wrote:
>>> Hello MythTV people
>>>
>>> This is a problem which I've had for a year or more, but I haven't
>>> had time
>>> until now to investigate it fully.
>>>
>>> Basically, my list of channels is incomplete, whether I use MythTV's
>>> scanning, or DVB-utils' 'scan' command.
>>>
>>> I'm using a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus card, which shows up in lspci as:
>>> 00:08.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3
>>> PCI Video and Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05)
>>>
>>> The output of this command
>>>
>>> scan -a 0 -x -1 -t 7 -U -o zap -l UNIVERSAL ./Astra-28.2E
>>>
>>> when ./Astra-28.2E contains this
>>>
>>> S 10773000 H 22000000 5/6
>>>
>>> is this (heavily edited)
>>>
>>> scanning ./Astra-28.2E
>>> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
>>> initial transponder 10773000 H 22000000 5
>>> >>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
>>> DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
>>> 0x0000 0x18af: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC THREE (not running)
>>> 0x0000 0x18bb: pmt_pid 0x0101 BSkyB -- BBC 1 NI (running)
>>> 0x0000 0x18bf: pmt_pid 0x010b BSkyB -- FIVE (running)
>>> 0x0000 0x189d: pmt_pid 0x0100 BSkyB -- BBC 1 London (running)
>>> 0x0000 0x189e: pmt_pid 0x0102 BSkyB -- BBC 2 England (running)
>>> 0x0000 0x18a2: pmt_pid 0x0104 BSkyB -- ETV (running)
>>> 0x0000 0x18a5: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC TES 2 (not running)
>>> 0x0000 0x18ab: pmt_pid 0x0103 BSkyB -- BBC TES 3 (running)
>>> 0x0000 0x18ac: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC FOUR (not running)
>>> 0x0000 0x18ad: pmt_pid 0x0106 BSkyB -- CBBC Channel (running)
>>> 0x0000 0x18ae: pmt_pid 0x0105 BSkyB -- CBeebies (running)
>>> Network Name 'ASTRA'
>>> ... [lots of lines snipped]
>>> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>>> DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
>>> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>>> ... [lots more lines snipped]
>>>
>>> In other words, it finds some channels and not others. Specifically,
>>> the
>>> information on pages such as
>>> http://www.lyngsat.com/astra2b.html
>>> and
>>> http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f39/bbc-1-2-missing-40088/
>>> suggests that BBC Radio 4 (and others) should be available on
>>> 11953:h:027500, but I've never been able to get it.
>>>
>>> I can get other radio stations, such as BBC R5L on 10802:h:0:22000.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else experienced this?
>>>
>>> Is it likely to be the fault of the tuner card, or the LNB, or the
>>> direction
>>> the dish is pointing in?
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> --
>>> Chris Dennis cgdennis [at] btinternet
>>> Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> mythtv-users mailing list
>>> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
>>> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>>>
>> Try the following....
>>
>> 11817 freq V polarity 27500 symrate
>> 11953 freq H polarity 27500 symrate
>>
>> See what you get
>
> I got this:
>
> scanning ./AstraTest
> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
> initial transponder 11817000 V 27500000 2
> initial transponder 11953000 H 27500000 2
> >>> tune to: 11817:v:0:27500
> DVB-S IF freq is 1217000
> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
> >>> tune to: 11817:v:0:27500 (tuning failed)
> DVB-S IF freq is 1217000
> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500
> DVB-S IF freq is 1353000
> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
> DVB-S IF freq is 1353000
> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
> ERROR: initial tuning failed
> dumping lists (0 services)
> Done.
>

I've also tried manually entering the multiplex and channel details into
the MythTV database, but the channel that should be Radio 4 just gets
'No lock (l___)'.

Are there parameters to the cx88 modules that can be tuned to improve
reception? (I can see that there are many parameters to modules such as
cx88xx, cx8800, cx8802, cx88_dvb etc., but I don't know which ones to tweak)

cheers

Chris

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anothersname at googlemail

May 10, 2010, 7:34 AM

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Re: Missing channels from Astra 28.2E [In reply to]

On 10 May 2010 11:22, Chris Dennis <cgdennis [at] btinternet> wrote:
> Chris Dennis wrote:
>>
>> Another Sillyname wrote:
>>>
>>> On 9 May 2010 18:48, Chris Dennis <cgdennis [at] btinternet> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello MythTV people
>>>>
>>>> This is a problem which I've had for a year or more, but I haven't had
>>>> time
>>>> until now to investigate it fully.
>>>>
>>>> Basically, my list of channels is incomplete, whether I use MythTV's
>>>> scanning, or DVB-utils' 'scan' command.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus card, which shows up in lspci as:
>>>> 00:08.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3
>>>> PCI Video and Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05)
>>>>
>>>> The output of this command
>>>>
>>>> scan -a 0 -x -1 -t 7 -U -o zap -l UNIVERSAL ./Astra-28.2E
>>>>
>>>> when ./Astra-28.2E contains this
>>>>
>>>> S 10773000 H 22000000 5/6
>>>>
>>>> is this (heavily edited)
>>>>
>>>> scanning ./Astra-28.2E
>>>> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
>>>> initial transponder 10773000 H 22000000 5
>>>> >>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
>>>> DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
>>>> 0x0000 0x18af: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC THREE (not running)
>>>> 0x0000 0x18bb: pmt_pid 0x0101 BSkyB -- BBC 1 NI (running)
>>>> 0x0000 0x18bf: pmt_pid 0x010b BSkyB -- FIVE (running)
>>>> 0x0000 0x189d: pmt_pid 0x0100 BSkyB -- BBC 1 London (running)
>>>> 0x0000 0x189e: pmt_pid 0x0102 BSkyB -- BBC 2 England (running)
>>>> 0x0000 0x18a2: pmt_pid 0x0104 BSkyB -- ETV (running)
>>>> 0x0000 0x18a5: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC TES 2 (not running)
>>>> 0x0000 0x18ab: pmt_pid 0x0103 BSkyB -- BBC TES 3 (running)
>>>> 0x0000 0x18ac: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC FOUR (not running)
>>>> 0x0000 0x18ad: pmt_pid 0x0106 BSkyB -- CBBC Channel (running)
>>>> 0x0000 0x18ae: pmt_pid 0x0105 BSkyB -- CBeebies (running)
>>>> Network Name 'ASTRA'
>>>> ... [lots of lines snipped]
>>>> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>>>> DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
>>>> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>>>> ... [lots more lines snipped]
>>>>
>>>> In other words, it finds some channels and not others. Specifically,
>>>> the
>>>> information on pages such as
>>>> http://www.lyngsat.com/astra2b.html
>>>> and
>>>> http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f39/bbc-1-2-missing-40088/
>>>> suggests that BBC Radio 4 (and others) should be available on
>>>> 11953:h:027500, but I've never been able to get it.
>>>>
>>>> I can get other radio stations, such as BBC R5L on 10802:h:0:22000.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else experienced this?
>>>>
>>>> Is it likely to be the fault of the tuner card, or the LNB, or the
>>>> direction
>>>> the dish is pointing in?
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Dennis cgdennis [at] btinternet
>>>> Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> mythtv-users mailing list
>>>> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
>>>> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>>>>
>>> Try the following....
>>>
>>> 11817 freq V polarity 27500 symrate
>>> 11953 freq H polarity 27500 symrate
>>>
>>> See what you get
>>
>> I got this:
>>
>> scanning ./AstraTest
>> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
>> initial transponder 11817000 V 27500000 2
>> initial transponder 11953000 H 27500000 2
>> >>> tune to: 11817:v:0:27500
>> DVB-S IF freq is 1217000
>> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>> >>> tune to: 11817:v:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>> DVB-S IF freq is 1217000
>> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500
>> DVB-S IF freq is 1353000
>> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>> DVB-S IF freq is 1353000
>> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>> ERROR: initial tuning failed
>> dumping lists (0 services)
>> Done.
>>
>
> I've also tried manually entering the multiplex and channel details into the
> MythTV database, but the channel that should be Radio 4 just gets 'No lock
> (l___)'.
>
> Are there parameters to the cx88 modules that can be tuned to improve
> reception? (I can see that there are many parameters to modules such as
> cx88xx, cx8800, cx8802, cx88_dvb etc., but I don't know which ones to tweak)
>
> cheers
>
> Chris
>
> --
> Chris Dennis cgdennis [at] btinternet
> Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>

Have you tried plugging in and old $ky box to see if it gets reception
of the missing channels? It'll at least let you know if it's a fault
with the dish/LNB/alignment.

Regards
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Jens.Peder.Terjesen at devoteam

May 10, 2010, 8:05 AM

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Re: Missing channels from Astra 28.2E [In reply to]

Chris Dennis wrote:
________________________________________
Hello MythTV people

This is a problem which I've had for a year or more, but I haven't had
time until now to investigate it fully.

Basically, my list of channels is incomplete, whether I use MythTV's
scanning, or DVB-utils' 'scan' command.

I'm using a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus card, which shows up in lspci as:
00:08.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3
PCI Video and Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05)

The output of this command

scan -a 0 -x -1 -t 7 -U -o zap -l UNIVERSAL ./Astra-28.2E

when ./Astra-28.2E contains this

S 10773000 H 22000000 5/6

is this (heavily edited)

scanning ./Astra-28.2E
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
initial transponder 10773000 H 22000000 5
>>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
0x0000 0x18af: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC THREE (not running)
0x0000 0x18bb: pmt_pid 0x0101 BSkyB -- BBC 1 NI (running)
0x0000 0x18bf: pmt_pid 0x010b BSkyB -- FIVE (running)
0x0000 0x189d: pmt_pid 0x0100 BSkyB -- BBC 1 London (running)
0x0000 0x189e: pmt_pid 0x0102 BSkyB -- BBC 2 England (running)
0x0000 0x18a2: pmt_pid 0x0104 BSkyB -- ETV (running)
0x0000 0x18a5: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC TES 2 (not running)
0x0000 0x18ab: pmt_pid 0x0103 BSkyB -- BBC TES 3 (running)
0x0000 0x18ac: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC FOUR (not running)
0x0000 0x18ad: pmt_pid 0x0106 BSkyB -- CBBC Channel (running)
0x0000 0x18ae: pmt_pid 0x0105 BSkyB -- CBeebies (running)
Network Name 'ASTRA'
... [lots of lines snipped]
>>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
... [lots more lines snipped]

In other words, it finds some channels and not others. Specifically,
the information on pages such as
http://www.lyngsat.com/astra2b.html
and
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f39/bbc-1-2-missing-40088/
suggests that BBC Radio 4 (and others) should be available on
11953:h:027500, but I've never been able to get it.

I can get other radio stations, such as BBC R5L on 10802:h:0:22000.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Is it likely to be the fault of the tuner card, or the LNB, or the
direction the dish is pointing in?

cheers

Chris
--
Chris Dennis cgdennis [at] btinternet
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Hi.

I guess you are using an universal LNB?

It looks like you are only getting the low-band channels?
>>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
I.e. 10733 Mhz - 9750 Mhz = 1023 Mhz -> OK
>>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
I.e. 11953 Mhz - 10600 Mhz = 1353 Mhz -> NOK.

It that is the case it would mean that the tone-switching on your card is broken.

I bought a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus a few years ago that functioned as it should for a few months, then the tone-switching stopped working.

Fortunatly for me the webshop replaced it with a Hauppauge HVR-4000 at no extra charge.

Jens
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May 11, 2010, 8:52 AM

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Re: Missing channels from Astra 28.2E [In reply to]

Another Sillyname wrote:
> On 10 May 2010 11:22, Chris Dennis <cgdennis [at] btinternet> wrote:
>> Chris Dennis wrote:
>>> Another Sillyname wrote:
>>>> On 9 May 2010 18:48, Chris Dennis <cgdennis [at] btinternet> wrote:
>>>>> Hello MythTV people
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a problem which I've had for a year or more, but I haven't had
>>>>> time
>>>>> until now to investigate it fully.
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically, my list of channels is incomplete, whether I use MythTV's
>>>>> scanning, or DVB-utils' 'scan' command.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus card, which shows up in lspci as:
>>>>> 00:08.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3
>>>>> PCI Video and Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05)
>>>>>
>>>>> The output of this command
>>>>>
>>>>> scan -a 0 -x -1 -t 7 -U -o zap -l UNIVERSAL ./Astra-28.2E
>>>>>
>>>>> when ./Astra-28.2E contains this
>>>>>
>>>>> S 10773000 H 22000000 5/6
>>>>>
>>>>> is this (heavily edited)
>>>>>
>>>>> scanning ./Astra-28.2E
>>>>> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
>>>>> initial transponder 10773000 H 22000000 5
>>>>> >>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
>>>>> DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
>>>>> 0x0000 0x18af: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC THREE (not running)
>>>>> 0x0000 0x18bb: pmt_pid 0x0101 BSkyB -- BBC 1 NI (running)
>>>>> 0x0000 0x18bf: pmt_pid 0x010b BSkyB -- FIVE (running)
>>>>> 0x0000 0x189d: pmt_pid 0x0100 BSkyB -- BBC 1 London (running)
>>>>> 0x0000 0x189e: pmt_pid 0x0102 BSkyB -- BBC 2 England (running)
>>>>> 0x0000 0x18a2: pmt_pid 0x0104 BSkyB -- ETV (running)
>>>>> 0x0000 0x18a5: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC TES 2 (not running)
>>>>> 0x0000 0x18ab: pmt_pid 0x0103 BSkyB -- BBC TES 3 (running)
>>>>> 0x0000 0x18ac: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC FOUR (not running)
>>>>> 0x0000 0x18ad: pmt_pid 0x0106 BSkyB -- CBBC Channel (running)
>>>>> 0x0000 0x18ae: pmt_pid 0x0105 BSkyB -- CBeebies (running)
>>>>> Network Name 'ASTRA'
>>>>> ... [lots of lines snipped]
>>>>> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>>>>> DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
>>>>> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>>>>> ... [lots more lines snipped]
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, it finds some channels and not others. Specifically,
>>>>> the
>>>>> information on pages such as
>>>>> http://www.lyngsat.com/astra2b.html
>>>>> and
>>>>> http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f39/bbc-1-2-missing-40088/
>>>>> suggests that BBC Radio 4 (and others) should be available on
>>>>> 11953:h:027500, but I've never been able to get it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can get other radio stations, such as BBC R5L on 10802:h:0:22000.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone else experienced this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it likely to be the fault of the tuner card, or the LNB, or the
>>>>> direction
>>>>> the dish is pointing in?
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> --
>>>>> Chris Dennis cgdennis [at] btinternet
>>>>> Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> mythtv-users mailing list
>>>>> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
>>>>> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>>>>>
>>>> Try the following....
>>>>
>>>> 11817 freq V polarity 27500 symrate
>>>> 11953 freq H polarity 27500 symrate
>>>>
>>>> See what you get
>>> I got this:
>>>
>>> scanning ./AstraTest
>>> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
>>> initial transponder 11817000 V 27500000 2
>>> initial transponder 11953000 H 27500000 2
>>> >>> tune to: 11817:v:0:27500
>>> DVB-S IF freq is 1217000
>>> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>>> >>> tune to: 11817:v:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>>> DVB-S IF freq is 1217000
>>> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>>> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500
>>> DVB-S IF freq is 1353000
>>> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>>> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>>> DVB-S IF freq is 1353000
>>> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>>> ERROR: initial tuning failed
>>> dumping lists (0 services)
>>> Done.
>>>
>> I've also tried manually entering the multiplex and channel details into the
>> MythTV database, but the channel that should be Radio 4 just gets 'No lock
>> (l___)'.
>>
>> Are there parameters to the cx88 modules that can be tuned to improve
>> reception? (I can see that there are many parameters to modules such as
>> cx88xx, cx8800, cx8802, cx88_dvb etc., but I don't know which ones to tweak)
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> --
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>> Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>>
>
> Have you tried plugging in and old $ky box to see if it gets reception
> of the missing channels? It'll at least let you know if it's a fault
> with the dish/LNB/alignment.

That's a good idea -- I'll have to extract said box from the loft.

I'm coming to the conclusion that the dish is slightly out of whack and
not getting a signal from Astra 2D. I'm planning to try adjusting it at
the weekend (which requires a long ladder), and the Sky box might be
helpful for displaying signal strength.

cheers

Chris

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May 11, 2010, 9:10 AM

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Re: Missing channels from Astra 28.2E [In reply to]

Terjesen Jens Peder wrote:
> Chris Dennis wrote:
> ________________________________________
> Hello MythTV people
>
> This is a problem which I've had for a year or more, but I haven't had
> time until now to investigate it fully.
>
> Basically, my list of channels is incomplete, whether I use MythTV's
> scanning, or DVB-utils' 'scan' command.
>
> I'm using a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus card, which shows up in lspci as:
> 00:08.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3
> PCI Video and Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05)
>
> The output of this command
>
> scan -a 0 -x -1 -t 7 -U -o zap -l UNIVERSAL ./Astra-28.2E
>
> when ./Astra-28.2E contains this
>
> S 10773000 H 22000000 5/6
>
> is this (heavily edited)
>
> scanning ./Astra-28.2E
> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
> initial transponder 10773000 H 22000000 5
> >>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
> DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
> 0x0000 0x18af: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC THREE (not running)
> 0x0000 0x18bb: pmt_pid 0x0101 BSkyB -- BBC 1 NI (running)
> 0x0000 0x18bf: pmt_pid 0x010b BSkyB -- FIVE (running)
> 0x0000 0x189d: pmt_pid 0x0100 BSkyB -- BBC 1 London (running)
> 0x0000 0x189e: pmt_pid 0x0102 BSkyB -- BBC 2 England (running)
> 0x0000 0x18a2: pmt_pid 0x0104 BSkyB -- ETV (running)
> 0x0000 0x18a5: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC TES 2 (not running)
> 0x0000 0x18ab: pmt_pid 0x0103 BSkyB -- BBC TES 3 (running)
> 0x0000 0x18ac: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC FOUR (not running)
> 0x0000 0x18ad: pmt_pid 0x0106 BSkyB -- CBBC Channel (running)
> 0x0000 0x18ae: pmt_pid 0x0105 BSkyB -- CBeebies (running)
> Network Name 'ASTRA'
> ... [lots of lines snipped]
> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
> DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
> ... [lots more lines snipped]
>
> In other words, it finds some channels and not others. Specifically,
> the information on pages such as
> http://www.lyngsat.com/astra2b.html
> and
> http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f39/bbc-1-2-missing-40088/
> suggests that BBC Radio 4 (and others) should be available on
> 11953:h:027500, but I've never been able to get it.
>
> I can get other radio stations, such as BBC R5L on 10802:h:0:22000.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this?
>
> Is it likely to be the fault of the tuner card, or the LNB, or the
> direction the dish is pointing in?
>
> cheers
>
> Chris
> --
> Chris Dennis cgdennis [at] btinternet
> Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK
> _______________________________________________
>
> Hi.
>
> I guess you are using an universal LNB?
>
> It looks like you are only getting the low-band channels?
> >>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
> DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
> I.e. 10733 Mhz - 9750 Mhz = 1023 Mhz -> OK
> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
> DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
> I.e. 11953 Mhz - 10600 Mhz = 1353 Mhz -> NOK.
>
> It that is the case it would mean that the tone-switching on your card is broken.
>
> I bought a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus a few years ago that functioned as it should for a few months, then the tone-switching stopped working.
>
> Fortunatly for me the webshop replaced it with a Hauppauge HVR-4000 at no extra charge.
>
> Jens

Aha! That's an interesting thought. I was wondering why the -tone
option of dvbtune made no difference.

In fact I've got two Nova-S-Plus cards in the backend -- maybe both of
them have failed in this way. I'll try them one at a time at the
weekend. They're a couple of years old, so not within warranty.

Which are good DVB-S PCI cards these days?

cheers

Chris
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May 11, 2010, 9:51 AM

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Re: Missing channels from Astra 28.2E [In reply to]

On 11 May 2010 17:10, Chris Dennis <cgdennis [at] btinternet> wrote:
> Terjesen Jens Peder wrote:
>>
>> Chris Dennis wrote:
>> ________________________________________
>> Hello MythTV people
>>
>> This is a problem which I've had for a year or more, but I haven't had
>> time until now to investigate it fully.
>>
>> Basically, my list of channels is incomplete, whether I use MythTV's
>> scanning, or DVB-utils' 'scan' command.
>>
>> I'm using a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus card, which shows up in lspci as:
>> 00:08.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3
>> PCI Video and Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05)
>>
>> The output of this command
>>
>> scan -a 0 -x -1 -t 7 -U -o zap -l UNIVERSAL ./Astra-28.2E
>>
>> when ./Astra-28.2E contains this
>>
>> S 10773000 H 22000000 5/6
>>
>> is this (heavily edited)
>>
>> scanning ./Astra-28.2E
>> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
>> initial transponder 10773000 H 22000000 5
>> >>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
>> DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
>> 0x0000 0x18af: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC THREE (not running)
>> 0x0000 0x18bb: pmt_pid 0x0101 BSkyB -- BBC 1 NI (running)
>> 0x0000 0x18bf: pmt_pid 0x010b BSkyB -- FIVE (running)
>> 0x0000 0x189d: pmt_pid 0x0100 BSkyB -- BBC 1 London (running)
>> 0x0000 0x189e: pmt_pid 0x0102 BSkyB -- BBC 2 England (running)
>> 0x0000 0x18a2: pmt_pid 0x0104 BSkyB -- ETV (running)
>> 0x0000 0x18a5: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC TES 2 (not running)
>> 0x0000 0x18ab: pmt_pid 0x0103 BSkyB -- BBC TES 3 (running)
>> 0x0000 0x18ac: pmt_pid 0x0000 BSkyB -- BBC FOUR (not running)
>> 0x0000 0x18ad: pmt_pid 0x0106 BSkyB -- CBBC Channel (running)
>> 0x0000 0x18ae: pmt_pid 0x0105 BSkyB -- CBeebies (running)
>> Network Name 'ASTRA'
>> ... [lots of lines snipped]
>> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>> DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
>> WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>> ... [lots more lines snipped]
>>
>> In other words, it finds some channels and not others. Specifically,
>> the information on pages such as
>> http://www.lyngsat.com/astra2b.html
>> and
>> http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f39/bbc-1-2-missing-40088/
>> suggests that BBC Radio 4 (and others) should be available on
>> 11953:h:027500, but I've never been able to get it.
>>
>> I can get other radio stations, such as BBC R5L on 10802:h:0:22000.
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced this?
>>
>> Is it likely to be the fault of the tuner card, or the LNB, or the
>> direction the dish is pointing in?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Chris
>> --
>> Chris Dennis cgdennis [at] btinternet
>> Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I guess you are using an universal LNB?
>>
>> It looks like you are only getting the low-band channels?
>> >>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
>> DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
>> I.e. 10733 Mhz - 9750 Mhz = 1023 Mhz -> OK
>> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>> DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
>> I.e. 11953 Mhz - 10600 Mhz = 1353 Mhz -> NOK.
>>
>> It that is the case it would mean that the tone-switching on your card is
>> broken.
>>
>> I bought a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus a few years ago that functioned as it
>> should for a few months, then the tone-switching stopped working.
>>
>> Fortunatly for me the webshop replaced it with a Hauppauge HVR-4000 at no
>> extra charge.
>>
>> Jens
>
> Aha! That's an interesting thought. I was wondering why the -tone option
> of dvbtune made no difference.
>
> In fact I've got two Nova-S-Plus cards in the backend -- maybe both of them
> have failed in this way. I'll try them one at a time at the weekend.
> They're a couple of years old, so not within warranty.
>
> Which are good DVB-S PCI cards these days?
>
> cheers
>
> Chris
> --
> Chris Dennis cgdennis [at] btinternet
> Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>

I use the Hauppauge DVB-S2 so that if the HD channels start to
transmit on S2 as is rumoured I don't need to replace the card again.
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May 12, 2010, 4:17 AM

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Re: Missing channels from Astra 28.2E [In reply to]

Chris Dennis wrote:
________________________________________

Terjesen Jens Peder wrote:
> _______________________________________________
>
> Hi.
>
> I guess you are using an universal LNB?
>
> It looks like you are only getting the low-band channels?
> >>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
> DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
> I.e. 10733 Mhz - 9750 Mhz = 1023 Mhz -> OK
> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
> DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
> I.e. 11953 Mhz - 10600 Mhz = 1353 Mhz -> NOK.
>
> It that is the case it would mean that the tone-switching on your card is broken.
>
> I bought a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus a few years ago that functioned as it should for a few months, then the tone-switching stopped working.
>
> Fortunatly for me the webshop replaced it with a Hauppauge HVR-4000 at no extra charge.
>
> Jens

Aha! That's an interesting thought. I was wondering why the -tone
option of dvbtune made no difference.

In fact I've got two Nova-S-Plus cards in the backend -- maybe both of
them have failed in this way. I'll try them one at a time at the
weekend. They're a couple of years old, so not within warranty.

Which are good DVB-S PCI cards these days?

cheers

Chris
_______________________________________________

Come to think of it it could also be the LNB that is at fault. So if you have a regular sat-box you can test with that in order to isolate the fault to either the LNB or the sat-card.

I have three Hauppauge! WinTV-HVR4000-HD. The DVB-S/S2 part is working out of the box with newer kernels and MythTV 0.22. Just remember to download and install firmware. I have not got the DVB-T part working, but the last info I saw was that it should work with latest v4l-dvb and firmware.

I also have two Hauppauge! WinTV-NOVA-HD-S2 that also work greate for DVB-S/S2. The NOVA-HD-S2 has the same DVB-S/S2 hardware as the HVR4000 so uses the same drivers and firmware.

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May 13, 2010, 12:36 PM

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Re: Missing channels from Astra 28.2E [In reply to]

Terjesen Jens Peder wrote:
> Chris Dennis wrote:
> ________________________________________
>
> Terjesen Jens Peder wrote:
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I guess you are using an universal LNB?
>>
>> It looks like you are only getting the low-band channels?
>> >>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
>> DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
>> I.e. 10733 Mhz - 9750 Mhz = 1023 Mhz -> OK
>> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>> DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
>> I.e. 11953 Mhz - 10600 Mhz = 1353 Mhz -> NOK.
>>
>> It that is the case it would mean that the tone-switching on your card is broken.
>>
>> I bought a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus a few years ago that functioned as it should for a few months, then the tone-switching stopped working.
>>
>> Fortunatly for me the webshop replaced it with a Hauppauge HVR-4000 at no extra charge.
>>
>> Jens
>
> Aha! That's an interesting thought. I was wondering why the -tone
> option of dvbtune made no difference.
>
> In fact I've got two Nova-S-Plus cards in the backend -- maybe both of
> them have failed in this way. I'll try them one at a time at the
> weekend. They're a couple of years old, so not within warranty.
>
> Which are good DVB-S PCI cards these days?
>
> cheers
>
> Chris
> _______________________________________________
>
> Come to think of it it could also be the LNB that is at fault. So if you have a regular sat-box you can test with that in order to isolate the fault to either the LNB or the sat-card.
>
> I have three Hauppauge! WinTV-HVR4000-HD. The DVB-S/S2 part is working out of the box with newer kernels and MythTV 0.22. Just remember to download and install firmware. I have not got the DVB-T part working, but the last info I saw was that it should work with latest v4l-dvb and firmware.
>
> I also have two Hauppauge! WinTV-NOVA-HD-S2 that also work greate for DVB-S/S2. The NOVA-HD-S2 has the same DVB-S/S2 hardware as the HVR4000 so uses the same drivers and firmware.
>
> Jens

I plugged in the old Sky+ box today, with slightly mixed results.

It successfully tuned in to some high band channels: BBC News, BBC
Parliament, BBC Radio 2 etc., which implies that the LNB is OK.

For some reason it didn't get BBC Radio 4 (high band), nor BBC R5L (low
band).

The Sky box's signal indicator was at 50% strength and 60% quality, so
possibly I need to get up the ladder at the weekend and give the dish a
nudge.

I can't afford two new DVB-S cards at the moment, so I'll reinstate the
DVB-T card that I've used before. The DVB-T signal is flakey here, but
better than nothing for recording Radio 4.

cheers

Chris

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May 13, 2010, 1:32 PM

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Re: Missing channels from Astra 28.2E [In reply to]

On 13 May 2010 20:36, Chris Dennis <cgdennis [at] btinternet> wrote:
> Terjesen Jens Peder wrote:
>>
>> Chris Dennis wrote:
>> ________________________________________
>>
>> Terjesen Jens Peder wrote:
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I guess you are using an universal LNB?
>>>
>>> It looks like you are only getting the low-band channels?
>>> >>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
>>> DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
>>> I.e. 10733 Mhz - 9750 Mhz = 1023 Mhz -> OK
>>> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>>> DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
>>> I.e. 11953 Mhz - 10600 Mhz = 1353 Mhz -> NOK.
>>>
>>> It that is the case it would mean that the tone-switching on your card is
>>> broken.
>>>
>>> I bought a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus a few years ago that functioned as it
>>> should for a few months, then the tone-switching stopped working.
>>>
>>> Fortunatly for me the webshop replaced it with a Hauppauge HVR-4000 at no
>>> extra charge.
>>>
>>> Jens
>>
>> Aha! That's an interesting thought. I was wondering why the -tone
>> option of dvbtune made no difference.
>>
>> In fact I've got two Nova-S-Plus cards in the backend -- maybe both of
>> them have failed in this way. I'll try them one at a time at the
>> weekend. They're a couple of years old, so not within warranty.
>>
>> Which are good DVB-S PCI cards these days?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Chris
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Come to think of it it could also be the LNB that is at fault. So if you
>> have a regular sat-box you can test with that in order to isolate the fault
>> to either the LNB or the sat-card.
>>
>> I have three Hauppauge! WinTV-HVR4000-HD. The DVB-S/S2 part is working out
>> of the box with newer kernels and MythTV 0.22. Just remember to download and
>> install firmware. I have not got the DVB-T part working, but the last info I
>> saw was that it should work with latest v4l-dvb and firmware.
>>
>> I also have two Hauppauge! WinTV-NOVA-HD-S2 that also work greate for
>> DVB-S/S2. The NOVA-HD-S2 has the same DVB-S/S2 hardware as the HVR4000 so
>> uses the same drivers and firmware.
>>
>> Jens
>
> I plugged in the old Sky+ box today, with slightly mixed results.
>
> It successfully tuned in to some high band channels: BBC News, BBC
> Parliament, BBC Radio 2 etc., which implies that the LNB is OK.
>
> For some reason it didn't get BBC Radio 4 (high band), nor BBC R5L (low
> band).
>
> The Sky box's signal indicator was at 50% strength and 60% quality, so
> possibly I need to get up the ladder at the weekend and give the dish a
> nudge.
>
> I can't afford two new DVB-S cards at the moment, so I'll reinstate the
> DVB-T card that I've used before. The DVB-T signal is flakey here, but
> better than nothing for recording Radio 4.
>
> cheers
>
> Chris
>
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Chris

Just a thought.....you'll need someone else their telling you the box
reception numbers else you'll spend half a day going up and down the
ladder.
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May 13, 2010, 2:21 PM

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Re: Missing channels from Astra 28.2E [In reply to]

Another Sillyname wrote:
> On 13 May 2010 20:36, Chris Dennis <cgdennis [at] btinternet> wrote:
>> Terjesen Jens Peder wrote:
>>> Chris Dennis wrote:
>>> ________________________________________
>>>
>>> Terjesen Jens Peder wrote:
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> I guess you are using an universal LNB?
>>>>
>>>> It looks like you are only getting the low-band channels?
>>>> >>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
>>>> DVB-S IF freq is 1023000
>>>> I.e. 10733 Mhz - 9750 Mhz = 1023 Mhz -> OK
>>>> >>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>>>> DVB-S IF freq is 1353500
>>>> I.e. 11953 Mhz - 10600 Mhz = 1353 Mhz -> NOK.
>>>>
>>>> It that is the case it would mean that the tone-switching on your card is
>>>> broken.
>>>>
>>>> I bought a Hauppauge Nova-S-Plus a few years ago that functioned as it
>>>> should for a few months, then the tone-switching stopped working.
>>>>
>>>> Fortunatly for me the webshop replaced it with a Hauppauge HVR-4000 at no
>>>> extra charge.
>>>>
>>>> Jens
>>> Aha! That's an interesting thought. I was wondering why the -tone
>>> option of dvbtune made no difference.
>>>
>>> In fact I've got two Nova-S-Plus cards in the backend -- maybe both of
>>> them have failed in this way. I'll try them one at a time at the
>>> weekend. They're a couple of years old, so not within warranty.
>>>
>>> Which are good DVB-S PCI cards these days?
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> Come to think of it it could also be the LNB that is at fault. So if you
>>> have a regular sat-box you can test with that in order to isolate the fault
>>> to either the LNB or the sat-card.
>>>
>>> I have three Hauppauge! WinTV-HVR4000-HD. The DVB-S/S2 part is working out
>>> of the box with newer kernels and MythTV 0.22. Just remember to download and
>>> install firmware. I have not got the DVB-T part working, but the last info I
>>> saw was that it should work with latest v4l-dvb and firmware.
>>>
>>> I also have two Hauppauge! WinTV-NOVA-HD-S2 that also work greate for
>>> DVB-S/S2. The NOVA-HD-S2 has the same DVB-S/S2 hardware as the HVR4000 so
>>> uses the same drivers and firmware.
>>>
>>> Jens
>> I plugged in the old Sky+ box today, with slightly mixed results.
>>
>> It successfully tuned in to some high band channels: BBC News, BBC
>> Parliament, BBC Radio 2 etc., which implies that the LNB is OK.
>>
>> For some reason it didn't get BBC Radio 4 (high band), nor BBC R5L (low
>> band).
>>
>> The Sky box's signal indicator was at 50% strength and 60% quality, so
>> possibly I need to get up the ladder at the weekend and give the dish a
>> nudge.
>>
>> I can't afford two new DVB-S cards at the moment, so I'll reinstate the
>> DVB-T card that I've used before. The DVB-T signal is flakey here, but
>> better than nothing for recording Radio 4.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> --
>> Chris Dennis cgdennis [at] btinternet
>> Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK
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>>
>
> Chris
>
> Just a thought.....you'll need someone else their telling you the box
> reception numbers else you'll spend half a day going up and down the
> ladder.

Yes, thanks for reminding me. Surely someone has written a script that
scans the output from, for example, szap and makes assorted beeps
according to the strength of the signal? If not, I might have to.

cheers

Chris

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