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cdcooper at shaw

May 7, 2010, 10:35 AM

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Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup

I was a previous user of MythTV for years up to 0.21, but switched to XBMC.
Now I'm looking at trying out MythTV again to see what's new, but I'm have
no luck being able to configure it because I can't read anything on screen.
Please see here for two screenshots taken through VNC (1024x768) to see what
I mean: 1 <http://www.sefia.ca/Mythtv1.png> 2
<http://www.sefia.ca/Mythtv2.png> The issue is the same regardless of VNC
or using the local display.

I know that this may not be a myth issue, but apps such as qtconfig-qt44
look ok so I figured I might as well start here. The default theme and
Terra theme both have the same problem. Can anyone point me in the right
direction?

This is the same install (CentOS) that I previously used for Myth, just
software updates since then. The hardware has also since changed, from sis
to intel video. All myth 21 packages had been previously removed and the
database was dropped. I have initially tried 0.23 from atrpms, have since
tried 0.24 from bleeding and 0.22 as well. All the same.

- Removed all mythtv* and libmyth* packages again.

- Groupremoved Xorg

- Removed a few other xorg and font packages remaining

- Cleaned out the /etc/X11, /use/share/mythtv, /usr/lib64/mythtv
directories

- Reinstalled Xorg and MythTV 0.23

- Removed qt4, qt4-mysql (since atrpms installed qt44 versions)

Same result

I'm at a loss as to what to do next.

Thanks

udovdh at xs4all

May 7, 2010, 10:37 AM

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Re: Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup [In reply to]

On 2010-05-07 19:35, Chris Cooper wrote:
> I’m at a loss as to what to do next.

Checked your DPI for the screen?
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mtdean at thirdcontact

May 7, 2010, 10:56 AM

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Re: Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup [In reply to]

On 05/07/2010 01:35 PM, Chris Cooper wrote:
> I was a previous user of MythTV for years up to 0.21, but switched to XBMC.
> Now I'm looking at trying out MythTV again to see what's new, but I'm have
> no luck being able to configure it because I can't read anything on screen.
> Please see here for two screenshots taken through VNC (1024x768) to see what
> I mean: 1<http://www.sefia.ca/Mythtv1.png> 2
> <http://www.sefia.ca/Mythtv2.png> The issue is the same regardless of VNC
> or using the local display.
>
> I know that this may not be a myth issue, but apps such as qtconfig-qt44
> look ok so I figured I might as well start here. The default theme and
> Terra theme both have the same problem. Can anyone point me in the right
> direction?
>
>
>
> This is the same install (CentOS) that I previously used for Myth, just
> software updates since then. The hardware has also since changed, from sis
> to intel video. All myth 21 packages had been previously removed and the
> database was dropped. I have initially tried 0.23 from atrpms, have since
> tried 0.24 from bleeding and 0.22 as well. All the same.
>
> - Removed all mythtv* and libmyth* packages again.
>
> - Groupremoved Xorg
>
> - Removed a few other xorg and font packages remaining
>
> - Cleaned out the /etc/X11, /use/share/mythtv, /usr/lib64/mythtv
> directories
>
> - Reinstalled Xorg and MythTV 0.23
>
> - Removed qt4, qt4-mysql (since atrpms installed qt44 versions)
>
> Same result
>
>
>
> I'm at a loss as to what to do next.
>

You most likely have old/broken themes installed. Clean them all up (in
/usr/{,local/}share/mythtv and in $HOME/.mythtv/themes

Mike
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cdcooper at shaw

May 7, 2010, 11:04 AM

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Re: Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup [In reply to]

In my Xorg.conf I didn't have anything specified, so I tried adding
"DisplaySize 260 195", which I gather should be 1024x768 @ 100dpi
The output from xdpyinfo shows this correctly as "dimensions: 1024x768
pixels (260x195 millimeters)"

Unfortunately no change.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Udo van den Heuvel
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:37 AM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup

On 2010-05-07 19:35, Chris Cooper wrote:
> I'm at a loss as to what to do next.

Checked your DPI for the screen?
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cdcooper at shaw

May 7, 2010, 11:13 AM

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Re: Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup [In reply to]

-----Original Message-----
From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv
[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Michael T. Dean
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:56 AM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup

On 05/07/2010 01:35 PM, Chris Cooper wrote:
> I was a previous user of MythTV for years up to 0.21, but switched to
XBMC.
> Now I'm looking at trying out MythTV again to see what's new, but I'm
> have no luck being able to configure it because I can't read anything on
screen.
> Please see here for two screenshots taken through VNC (1024x768) to see
what
> I mean: 1<http://www.sefia.ca/Mythtv1.png> 2
> <http://www.sefia.ca/Mythtv2.png> The issue is the same regardless of
VNC
> or using the local display.
>
> I know that this may not be a myth issue, but apps such as
> qtconfig-qt44 look ok so I figured I might as well start here. The
> default theme and Terra theme both have the same problem. Can anyone
> point me in the right direction?
>
>
>
> This is the same install (CentOS) that I previously used for Myth,
> just software updates since then. The hardware has also since
> changed, from sis to intel video. All myth 21 packages had been
> previously removed and the database was dropped. I have initially
> tried 0.23 from atrpms, have since tried 0.24 from bleeding and 0.22 as
well. All the same.
>
> - Removed all mythtv* and libmyth* packages again.
>
> - Groupremoved Xorg
>
> - Removed a few other xorg and font packages remaining
>
> - Cleaned out the /etc/X11, /use/share/mythtv, /usr/lib64/mythtv
> directories
>
> - Reinstalled Xorg and MythTV 0.23
>
> - Removed qt4, qt4-mysql (since atrpms installed qt44 versions)
>
> Same result
>
>
>
> I'm at a loss as to what to do next.
>

You most likely have old/broken themes installed. Clean them all up (in
/usr/{,local/}share/mythtv and in $HOME/.mythtv/themes

Mike

That was my original thought too, I've deleted both /usr/share/mythtv and
$HOME/.mythtv a couple times throughout this with no change (nothing in
/usr/local/share).

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mtdean at thirdcontact

May 7, 2010, 2:41 PM

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Re: Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup [In reply to]

On 05/07/2010 02:13 PM, Chris Cooper wrote:
>> You most likely have old/broken themes installed. Clean them all up (in
>> /usr/{,local/}share/mythtv and in $HOME/.mythtv/themes
> That was my original thought too, I've deleted both /usr/share/mythtv and
> $HOME/.mythtv a couple times throughout this with no change (nothing in
> /usr/local/share).
>

Except the newly installed stuff that must exist in /usr/share/mythtv ,
right?

I.e., you did uninstall everything myth-related, then delete those dirs,
then *reinstall* all mythtv packages (including themes /and/
mythfrontend and mythbackend and ...), right?

Mike

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lindsay.mathieson at gmail

May 7, 2010, 3:02 PM

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Re: Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup [In reply to]

On Sat, 8 May 2010 04:04:58 am Chris Cooper wrote:
> In my Xorg.conf I didn't have anything specified, so I tried adding
> "DisplaySize 260 195", which I gather should be 1024x768 @ 100dpi
> The output from xdpyinfo shows this correctly as "dimensions: 1024x768
> pixels (260x195 millimeters)"
>
> Unfortunately no change.

xdpyinfo|grep reso

Outputs the actual DPI
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cdcooper at shaw

May 7, 2010, 4:22 PM

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Re: Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup [In reply to]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv [mailto:mythtv-users-
> bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Michael T. Dean
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 3:41 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup
>
> On 05/07/2010 02:13 PM, Chris Cooper wrote:
> >> You most likely have old/broken themes installed. Clean them all up
> >> (in /usr/{,local/}share/mythtv and in $HOME/.mythtv/themes
> > That was my original thought too, I've deleted both /usr/share/mythtv
> > and $HOME/.mythtv a couple times throughout this with no change
> > (nothing in /usr/local/share).
> >
>
> Except the newly installed stuff that must exist in /usr/share/mythtv ,
right?
>
> I.e., you did uninstall everything myth-related, then delete those dirs,
then
> *reinstall* all mythtv packages (including themes /and/ mythfrontend and
> mythbackend and ...), right?
>
> Mike
>

When I first tried it I hadn't done such a thorough cleanup, but last night,
as mentioned in my original email, I removed *everything* before
reinstalling
- Removed all myth* and libmyth* packages again.
- Groupremoved Xorg
- Removed a few other misc xorg and font packages that remained
- Cleaned out the /etc/X11, /use/share/mythtv, /usr/lib64/mythtv directories
(and $HOME/.mythtv even though I didn't mention it before)
- Restart
- Reinstalled Xorg and MythTV 0.23
- Removed qt4, qt4-mysql (since atrpms installed qt44 versions)

If I do have a broken theme, it wasn't something left behind from the
previous install unless I missed some other directory. At present the only
directory containing themes I have is /usr/share/mythtv/themes. Just for
kicks I've removed myththemes and mythtv-themes (why are there two by the
way?), deleted the /usr/share/mythtv/themes directory and reinstalled both
packages again. No dice.

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mtdean at thirdcontact

May 7, 2010, 4:25 PM

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Re: Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup [In reply to]

On 05/07/2010 07:22 PM, Chris Cooper wrote:
> When I first tried it I hadn't done such a thorough cleanup, but last night,
> as mentioned in my original email, I removed *everything* before
> reinstalling
> - Removed all myth* and libmyth* packages again.
> - Groupremoved Xorg
> - Removed a few other misc xorg and font packages that remained
> - Cleaned out the /etc/X11, /use/share/mythtv, /usr/lib64/mythtv directories
> (and $HOME/.mythtv even though I didn't mention it before)
> - Restart
> - Reinstalled Xorg and MythTV 0.23
> - Removed qt4, qt4-mysql (since atrpms installed qt44 versions)
>
> If I do have a broken theme, it wasn't something left behind from the
> previous install unless I missed some other directory. At present the only
> directory containing themes I have is /usr/share/mythtv/themes. Just for
> kicks I've removed myththemes and mythtv-themes (why are there two by the
> way?), deleted the /usr/share/mythtv/themes directory and reinstalled both
> packages again. No dice.
>

Try:

mythfrontend -O Theme=Terra

and if it works, go into Utilities/Setup|Setup|Appearance and choose a
theme (any theme, including Terra) and then Next all the way through to
Finish, then exit mythfrontend and restart without the -O Theme=Terra

Mike
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cdcooper at shaw

May 7, 2010, 4:25 PM

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Re: Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup [In reply to]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv [mailto:mythtv-users-
> bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Lindsay Mathieson
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 4:02 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup
>
> On Sat, 8 May 2010 04:04:58 am Chris Cooper wrote:
> > In my Xorg.conf I didn't have anything specified, so I tried adding
> > "DisplaySize 260 195", which I gather should be 1024x768 @ 100dpi The
> > output from xdpyinfo shows this correctly as "dimensions: 1024x768
> > pixels (260x195 millimeters)"
> >
> > Unfortunately no change.
>
> xdpyinfo|grep reso
>
> Outputs the actual DPI
> --
> Lindsay
> http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home

Hikaru ~ # xdpyinfo | grep reso
resolution: 100x100 dots per inch

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cdcooper at shaw

May 7, 2010, 5:08 PM

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Re: Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup [In reply to]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv [mailto:mythtv-users-
> bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Michael T. Dean
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 5:26 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Super tiny fonts (1pt?) in new setup
>
> On 05/07/2010 07:22 PM, Chris Cooper wrote:
> > When I first tried it I hadn't done such a thorough cleanup, but last
> > night, as mentioned in my original email, I removed *everything*
> > before reinstalling
> > - Removed all myth* and libmyth* packages again.
> > - Groupremoved Xorg
> > - Removed a few other misc xorg and font packages that remained
> > - Cleaned out the /etc/X11, /use/share/mythtv, /usr/lib64/mythtv
> > directories (and $HOME/.mythtv even though I didn't mention it before)
> > - Restart
> > - Reinstalled Xorg and MythTV 0.23
> > - Removed qt4, qt4-mysql (since atrpms installed qt44 versions)
> >
> > If I do have a broken theme, it wasn't something left behind from the
> > previous install unless I missed some other directory. At present the
only
> > directory containing themes I have is /usr/share/mythtv/themes. Just
for
> > kicks I've removed myththemes and mythtv-themes (why are there two by
> > the way?), deleted the /usr/share/mythtv/themes directory and
> > reinstalled both packages again. No dice.
> >
>
> Try:
>
> mythfrontend -O Theme=Terra
>
> and if it works, go into Utilities/Setup|Setup|Appearance and choose a
> theme (any theme, including Terra) and then Next all the way through to
> Finish, then exit mythfrontend and restart without the -O Theme=Terra
>
> Mike

No difference. But this may be the right track. Below is the output from
while starting mythfrontend with the -O Theme=xxxxxx argument. It doesn't
matter what I put in as a theme name, or I notice if I leave the argument
out entirely, the result is the same. It always says could not find theme.
mythfrontend
mythfrontend -O Theme=Terra
mythfrontend -O Theme=terra
mythfrontend -O Theme=Arclight
mythfrontend -O Theme=default
mythfrontend -O Theme=Graphite

2010-05-07 17:51:32.384 mythfrontend version:
branches/release-0-23-fixes/mythtv/ [24265] www.mythtv.org
2010-05-07 17:51:32.385 Using runtime prefix = /usr
2010-05-07 17:51:32.385 Using configuration directory = /home/mythtv/.mythtv
2010-05-07 17:51:33.123 Empty LocalHostName.
2010-05-07 17:51:33.123 Using localhost value of Hikaru
2010-05-07 17:51:33.126 Unable to init db connection.
2010-05-07 17:51:33.126 New DB connection, total: 1
2010-05-07 17:51:33.126 MSqlDatabase::OpenDatabase(), db object is not
valid!
............................................................................
.
2010-05-07 17:51:35.151 UPnPautoconf() - No UPnP backends found
2010-05-07 17:51:35.151 No UPnP backends found
2010-05-07 17:51:35.153 Primary screen: 0.
2010-05-07 17:51:35.153 Using screen 0, 1024x768 at 0,0
2010-05-07 17:51:35.154 Could not find theme: - Switching to Terra
2010-05-07 17:51:35.155 Using theme base resolution of 1280x720
2010-05-07 17:51:35.175 MythXGetRefreshRate(): X11 ModeLine query failed
2010-05-07 17:51:35.176 Desktop video mode: 0x0 0 Hz
2010-05-07 17:51:35.182 get_ip: Name or service not known
2010-05-07 17:51:35.182 LIRC, Error: Failed to parse IP address ''

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