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Apr 9, 2010, 8:12 PM

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Biggest Mythtv setup

What is the biggest Mythtv setup?

Number of Front Ends?
Number of Back Ends?
Number of capture cards?
Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes?

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fairlane at springcom

Apr 9, 2010, 8:17 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

Tom Sparks wrote:
> What is the biggest Mythtv setup?
>
> Number of Front Ends?
> Number of Back Ends?
> Number of capture cards?
> Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes?
>
>
> tom_a_sparks
>
<grabs popcorn>

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Apr 9, 2010, 8:19 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

On Friday 09 April 2010 11:12:50 pm Tom Sparks wrote:
> What is the biggest Mythtv setup?
>
> Number of Front Ends?
> Number of Back Ends?
> Number of capture cards?
> Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes?
>
>
> tom_a_sparks
>
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Number of Front Ends? 1/2 (shared)
Number of Back Ends? 1/2 (shared)
Number of capture cards? 1
Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes? 20 GB

Do I win? Do I win? Ooh, ooh, I win something, right? C'mon, it's a contest
and I win something, right?

;-)

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Apr 9, 2010, 8:25 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

Tom Sparks wrote:
> What is the biggest Mythtv setup?
>
> Number of Front Ends?
> Number of Back Ends?
> Number of capture cards?
> Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes?
>
Ok, I'll play.

1 frontend (currently)
1 backend *more* than enough.
5 capture cards (pci-expansion chassis)
2.7 Terabytes storage (raid 5)

Petabytes, that's funny...
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Apr 9, 2010, 10:50 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

--- On Sat, 10/4/10, Harry Orenstein <holists [at] verizon> wrote:
<snip>
> Do I win?� Do I win?� Ooh, ooh, I win something,
> right?� C'mon, it's a contest
> and I win something, right?

A mythtv wiki page :)

my setup:
1 x front end
1 x backend
2 x DUB-T ( 4 x virtual tuners)
1,027,816 MB of total usable space for tv shows

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paul10 at planar

Apr 9, 2010, 11:38 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

> What is the biggest Mythtv setup?
>
> Number of Front Ends?
> Number of Back Ends?
> Number of capture cards?
> Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes?

Not mine :-)

1 backend, 3 tuner cards, 4 TB (7 physical, but RAID6 and some other
partitions leaves 4TB usable for myth)
1 frontend at present

But, shortly to be expanded with an additional backend (to run DVB-S tuner
card), and an additional frontend (to run music in bedroom - hopefully
fanless Atom/Ion).

I'm sure I've heard of people with 5 frontends, and people with 3
backends, maybe someone else will play?

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Apr 9, 2010, 11:47 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

> > What is the biggest Mythtv setup?
> >
> > Number of Front Ends?
> > Number of Back Ends?
> > Number of capture cards?
> > Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes?
>
> Not mine :-)
>
> 1 backend, 3 tuner cards, 4 TB (7 physical, but RAID6 and some other
> partitions leaves 4TB usable for myth)
> 1 frontend at present
>
> But, shortly to be expanded with an additional backend (to run DVB-S tuner
> card), and an additional frontend (to run music in bedroom - hopefully
> fanless Atom/Ion).
>
> I'm sure I've heard of people with 5 frontends, and people with 3
> backends, maybe someone else will play?
>
>
I have
1 backend, 3 frontends (2 ion based), 3 DVB-T capture cards (15 virtual
tuners), 1.5TB of disk space.

I like this game :-)

Cheers,
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Apr 10, 2010, 12:14 AM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 18:47 +1200, Paul Kendall wrote:
> > > What is the biggest Mythtv setup?
> > >
> > > Number of Front Ends?
> > > Number of Back Ends?
> > > Number of capture cards?
> > > Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes?
> >
> > Not mine :-)
> >
> > 1 backend, 3 tuner cards, 4 TB (7 physical, but RAID6 and some other
> > partitions leaves 4TB usable for myth)
> > 1 frontend at present
> >
> > But, shortly to be expanded with an additional backend (to run DVB-S
> tuner
> > card), and an additional frontend (to run music in bedroom -
> hopefully
> > fanless Atom/Ion).
> >
> > I'm sure I've heard of people with 5 frontends, and people with 3
> > backends, maybe someone else will play?
> >
> >
> I have
> 1 backend, 3 frontends (2 ion based), 3 DVB-T capture cards (15
> virtual
> tuners), 1.5TB of disk space.

Let's play!

1 Backend
4 Frontends
2x DVB-T
1x DVB-S
3 TB disk

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Apr 10, 2010, 3:42 AM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

I enter the contest, just to show my interest....

1 headless backend (PIII)
1,5 TB disk
512 mb ram
3 dvb capture cards, 2 with CAM
9 frontends of which
2 ubuntubased
1 mac intel
1 ppc based
4 win7 based (on mythtvviewer + mythweb capabilities but samba and VLC gives
crude movie/video support)
(the 9th is the built in upnp in the ps3. not sure if that counts...)

Most, 6, frontends via wlan, rest via LAN. seems like the limit is 3
concurrent WLAN clients watching mpg,
then it saturates. more if mpg4 is used.

--
/Bj�rn

yan at seiner

Apr 10, 2010, 5:43 AM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

Nicolas Will wrote:
>
>
> Let's play!
>
> 1 Backend
> 4 Frontends
> 2x DVB-T
> 1x DVB-S
> 3 TB disk
>

1 main BE/FE (3 heads)
1 BE/FE in my van
1 FE

1 HDHR

/dev/md10 1,8T 1,5T 376G 80% /data10
/dev/md20 2,7T 1,6T 1,1T 60% /data20
/dev/md21 1,8T 307G 1,5T 18% /data21

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A day may come (_)\(_) ,>/'_ o__
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when we forsake our friends and break all (_)\(_)
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Apr 10, 2010, 7:04 AM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

On 10 April 2010 13:43, Yan Seiner <yan [at] seiner> wrote:
> Nicolas Will wrote:
>>
>>
>> Let's play!
>>
>> 1 Backend
>> 4 Frontends
>> 2x DVB-T
>> 1x DVB-S
>> 3 TB disk
>>
>
> 1 main BE/FE (3 heads)
> 1 BE/FE in my van
> 1 FE
>
> 1 HDHR
>
> /dev/md10 � � � � � � 1,8T �1,5T �376G �80% /data10
> /dev/md20 � � � � � � 2,7T �1,6T �1,1T �60% /data20
> /dev/md21 � � � � � � 1,8T �307G �1,5T �18% /data21
>
> --
>
> �o__
> �,>/'_ � � � � o__
> �(_)\(_) � � � ,>/'_ � � � � �o__
> A day may come �(_)\(_) � � � � ,>/'_ � � �o__
> when the courage of men fails, (_)\(_) � � ,>/'_ when we forsake our friends
> and break all (_)\(_)
> bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day.
> It is not this day!
> This day we ride!
>
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1 x Backend - 1.6TB dedicated just to recordings
4 x Actual DVB-T Tuners (2 x Nova 500) acting as 8 Virtual Tuners
3 x Actual DVB-S2 Tuners (2 x DVB-S2 + 1 x HVR 2200 ) acting as 6 Virtual Tuners
5 x HTPC dedicated Frontends and a further 4 Dell M1530 laptops used
as floating Frontends
1 x Media Server (most recordings are nuvexport'd off and dumped in
this library) with 6.5TB in Raid6
Assorted Axis Cameras integrated using Zoneminder
Most of the network is Gigabit over Cat5e but some 100mb
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fairlane at springcom

Apr 10, 2010, 7:11 AM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

Another Sillyname wrote:
> 1 x Backend - 1.6TB dedicated just to recordings
> 4 x Actual DVB-T Tuners (2 x Nova 500) acting as 8 Virtual Tuners
> 3 x Actual DVB-S2 Tuners (2 x DVB-S2 + 1 x HVR 2200 ) acting as 6 Virtual Tuners
> 5 x HTPC dedicated Frontends and a further 4 Dell M1530 laptops used
> as floating Frontends
> 1 x Media Server (most recordings are nuvexport'd off and dumped in
> this library) with 6.5TB in Raid6
> Assorted Axis Cameras integrated using Zoneminder
> Most of the network is Gigabit over Cat5e but some 100mb
>
How'd you get so many tuner cards in one backend? I like your
zoneminder setup. I do that too.
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Apr 10, 2010, 8:00 AM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

On 10 April 2010 15:11, Mark <fairlane [at] springcom> wrote:
> Another Sillyname wrote:
>>
>> 1 x Backend - 1.6TB dedicated just to recordings
>> 4 x Actual DVB-T Tuners (2 x Nova 500) acting as 8 Virtual Tuners
>> 3 x Actual DVB-S2 Tuners (2 x DVB-S2 + 1 x HVR 2200 ) acting as 6 Virtual
>> Tuners
>> 5 x HTPC dedicated Frontends and a further 4 Dell M1530 laptops used
>> as floating Frontends
>> 1 x Media Server (most recordings are nuvexport'd off and dumped in
>> this library) with 6.5TB in Raid6
>> Assorted Axis Cameras integrated using Zoneminder
>> Most of the network is Gigabit over Cat5e but some 100mb
>>
>
> How'd you get so many tuner cards in one backend? �I like your zoneminder
> setup. �I do that too.
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P5WDG2 Pro, it's a Workstation Mobo 2 x PCI, 2 x PCI-X (being used as
PCI), 2 x PCI-E and I got the setup wrong above (sorry got confused
about what cards were in the unit)

The Nova 500 is a PCI Dual Tuner so there's 2 DVB-T Tuners (4
Virtual), the PCI-E slot mounts a HVR-2200 Dual Tuner so there's the
other 2 DVB-T Tuners (4 Virtual). the other PCI slot and the 2 x PCI-X
slots house the 3 Hauppauge DVB-S2 cards.

The one I'm currently building is based on a P6T7 workstation Mobo
with 7 PCI-E slots and will have 2 x HVR 2200 PCI-E Dual Tuners for 4
actual (8 virtual) tuners and the other 4 PCI-E slots with likely have
TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 tuners so 8 actual (16 Virtual) tuners....the
last PCI-E slot is for the graphics card. The Virtual tuners on
DVB-S(2) are rarely used due to the way the transmission mux's are
configured so you really only get to use the actual tuners usually on
DVB-S(2). I'm just waiting for the TBS 6980 drivers to be properly
GPL'd rather then as a half lack which they are currently.

I know many people will say it's overkill to have such a high spec on
the backend but the advantage of being able to do all my transcoding
of multiple recordings simultaneously on one box before spooling off
to the media server makes it much more sensible for me.

We ran a thread a few months back and reckoned there's only maybe
10-12 users running single backends that combine DVB-T and DVB-S.
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Apr 10, 2010, 8:15 AM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

Another Sillyname wrote:
> P5WDG2 Pro, it's a Workstation Mobo 2 x PCI, 2 x PCI-X (being used as
> PCI), 2 x PCI-E and I got the setup wrong above (sorry got confused
> about what cards were in the unit)
>
> The Nova 500 is a PCI Dual Tuner so there's 2 DVB-T Tuners (4
> Virtual), the PCI-E slot mounts a HVR-2200 Dual Tuner so there's the
> other 2 DVB-T Tuners (4 Virtual). the other PCI slot and the 2 x PCI-X
> slots house the 3 Hauppauge DVB-S2 cards.
>
> The one I'm currently building is based on a P6T7 workstation Mobo
> with 7 PCI-E slots and will have 2 x HVR 2200 PCI-E Dual Tuners for 4
> actual (8 virtual) tuners and the other 4 PCI-E slots with likely have
> TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 tuners so 8 actual (16 Virtual) tuners....the
> last PCI-E slot is for the graphics card. The Virtual tuners on
> DVB-S(2) are rarely used due to the way the transmission mux's are
> configured so you really only get to use the actual tuners usually on
> DVB-S(2). I'm just waiting for the TBS 6980 drivers to be properly
> GPL'd rather then as a half lack which they are currently.
>
> I know many people will say it's overkill to have such a high spec on
> the backend but the advantage of being able to do all my transcoding
> of multiple recordings simultaneously on one box before spooling off
> to the media server makes it much more sensible for me.
>
> We ran a thread a few months back and reckoned there's only maybe
> 10-12 users running single backends that combine DVB-T and DVB-S.
>
No, I think it's neat. I did something similar. I have a pretty beefy
backend that does all the flagging
and transcoding and went light on frontends. My backend also does
server duty for file storage,
asterisk, zoneminder, ftp/http, etc. So far it's worked pretty well,
other than my hdpvr crash that happened
recently. I ran out of pci slots on my motherboard, so I went with a
pci-expansion chassis formerly used in
a music studio. The tuners don't seem to care. I wish someone would
release a card adapter for Dish network
so I could use DVB-S cards legally. It would be a lot easier than HDPVR
nonsense.
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Apr 10, 2010, 8:29 AM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 06:38:00AM +0000, paul10 [at] planar wrote:
> > What is the biggest Mythtv setup?
> >
> > Number of Front Ends?
> > Number of Back Ends?
> > Number of capture cards?
> > Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes?
>
> Not mine :-)
>
> 1 backend, 3 tuner cards, 4 TB (7 physical, but RAID6 and some other
> partitions leaves 4TB usable for myth)
> 1 frontend at present

Mine:

Dedicated backend with 2.5TB recording space attached to an HDHR.
1 dedicated slave backend with an HD-PVR (revo).
1 FE/BE with an HD-PVR (mini).
2 Dedicated frontends (asrock).

Desktop/Fileserver with 7TB for video files.

[deletia]
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Apr 10, 2010, 11:07 AM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

On 2010-04-09, at 11:12 PM, Tom Sparks wrote:

> What is the biggest Mythtv setup?

The guy at http://ultimatemythtv.wordpress.com/ had a neet blog for a few months but seems to have disappeared from view. The second post has a diagram of his setup which might take the largest install prize.

It's going back a ways but if this guy http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2004/pulpit_20040930_000460.html still has his setup going it also might be up there.

I'm surprised Yeechang hasn't jumped onto this thread.

- George
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Apr 10, 2010, 12:43 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

On 04/09/2010 11:19 PM, Harry Orenstein wrote:
> On Friday 09 April 2010 11:12:50 pm Tom Sparks wrote:
>> What is the biggest Mythtv setup?
>>
>> Number of Front Ends?
>> Number of Back Ends?
>> Number of capture cards?
>> Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes?
>>
>>
>> tom_a_sparks
>>
>>
>>
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> Number of Front Ends? 1/2 (shared)
> Number of Back Ends? 1/2 (shared)
> Number of capture cards? 1
> Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes? 20 GB
>
> Do I win? Do I win? Ooh, ooh, I win something, right? C'mon, it's a contest
> and I win something, right?
>
>
> ;-)
>
>
> -- Harry O.
> _______________________________________________

20 GB! (Points, laughs..)

20GB! (Doubles over laughing hysterically)

You win our....derision!

I have ONE 2 hour tv show which is over 10GB in size!!!

(Laughs so hard he chokes, cannot speak.)

;-)

Geoff

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Apr 10, 2010, 12:48 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

> You win our....derision!
>
> I have ONE 2 hour tv show which is over 10GB in size!!!
>

I have several dozen of 30 to 40 GB HD recordings.

John
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Apr 10, 2010, 3:11 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 05:48:48 am John Drescher wrote:
> > You win our....derision!
> >
> > I have ONE 2 hour tv show which is over 10GB in size!!!
>
> I have several dozen of 30 to 40 GB HD recordings.

Yah, winter olympics - I recorded *everything*, 7 hours of HD was 40-50GB
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Apr 10, 2010, 3:15 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 01:12:50 pm Tom Sparks wrote:
> What is the biggest Mythtv setup?

I'll bite :)

Combined B/F
- 4 DVB Tuners (16 Virtual)
- 1.5 TB Storage

1 F

Extra:
As a test of the multirec capabilities I once fired up 14 simultaneous
recordings, system coped flawlessly, I think CPU load was around 10%.

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Apr 10, 2010, 3:30 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

On 10 Apr 2010, at 04:12, Tom Sparks wrote:

> What is the biggest Mythtv setup?

No-one's really trying yet ;-)

>
> Number of Front Ends?

Four, 2x Ubuntu 1x Macbook Pro & a PS3, all HD

> Number of Back Ends?

Four.

> Number of capture cards?
Six;
One dual DVBT
Two DVBS, one DVBS2/DVBT, one dual DVBS2 (28E,19E,13E&1W)
One ATSC.

Thirty one virtual tuners in all.

> Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes?

6.5TB

Is that more like it??

Andre
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Apr 10, 2010, 3:56 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Andre <mythtv-list [at] dinkum> wrote:

>
> On 10 Apr 2010, at 04:12, Tom Sparks wrote:
>
> > What is the biggest Mythtv setup?
>
> No-one's really trying yet ;-)
>
> > Number of capture cards?
> Six;
> One dual DVBT
> Two DVBS, one DVBS2/DVBT, one dual DVBS2 (28E,19E,13E&1W)
> One ATSC.
>
> Thirty one virtual tuners in all.
>
> > Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes?
>
> 6.5TB
>
> Is that more like it??
>
> Andre

Well, I _was_ going to mention my 2 back ends, 3 front ends (though one is
also a back end), 3 digital/5 analog tuners, and 6 TB of storage.

But you preemptively skunked me.

Pardon me while I slink away in embarrassment ...

Calvin

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Apr 10, 2010, 6:26 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 20:12 -0700, Tom Sparks wrote:
> What is the biggest Mythtv setup?
>
> Number of Front Ends?
> Number of Back Ends?
> Number of capture cards?
> Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes?
>
>
> tom_a_sparks

8 full- and part-time frontends that are not also backends (including
laptops, carputer, etc).
5 backends (4 are also frontends)
8 encoders on 7 dedicated cards (1xHDHR, 2xHDPVR, 2xPVR250, 1xHD2000,
1xAir2PC). I also have an HDHR that an old MCE 2005 box normally uses
that could help chip in with Myth
8.5TB reserved for Myth Recordings. My keeper shows, other videos, music
and images are stored elsewhere.

We love to "turn Myth loose" on events such as Live Earth and Olympics.

james

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lindsay.mathieson at gmail

Apr 10, 2010, 6:38 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:26:06 am James Purl wrote:
> We love to "turn Myth loose" on events such as Live Earth and Olympics.

That's were it really shines, blanket record the lot and skip all the inane
commentary
--
Lindsay
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Apr 10, 2010, 7:01 PM

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Re: Biggest Mythtv setup [In reply to]

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 03:43:28PM -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote:
> On 04/09/2010 11:19 PM, Harry Orenstein wrote:
> >On Friday 09 April 2010 11:12:50 pm Tom Sparks wrote:
> >>What is the biggest Mythtv setup?
> >>
> >>Number of Front Ends?
> >>Number of Back Ends?
> >>Number of capture cards?
> >>Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes?
> >>
> >>
> >>tom_a_sparks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >Number of Front Ends? 1/2 (shared)
> >Number of Back Ends? 1/2 (shared)
> >Number of capture cards? 1
> >Number of Gigabytes/Terabytes/Petabytes? 20 GB
> >
> >Do I win? Do I win? Ooh, ooh, I win something, right? C'mon, it's a contest
> >and I win something, right?
> >
> >
> >;-)
> >
> >
> >-- Harry O.
> >_______________________________________________
>
> 20 GB! (Points, laughs..)
>
> 20GB! (Doubles over laughing hysterically)
>
> You win our....derision!
>
> I have ONE 2 hour tv show which is over 10GB in size!!!

ppppffft! Record some Olympics coverage OTA and that 10G is a pittance.

'-p
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