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kingsley.sawyers at gmail

Jan 23, 2010, 8:23 AM

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Philips DLNA-client TV won't play recordings

I'm trying to encourage my TV to play recordings from my BE. It's a
current Philips set (pfl9604, current firmware) with an inbuilt DLNA
client. BE is running MythDora 5 so MythTV 0.21. Recordings are all
SD TV transmissions, nothing special.
The TV finds the server OK, and I can navigate down to see a list of
recordings. When I select a rec to play, however, I get a blank
screen and a message on the TV: "File can not be found or played".
Philips haven't been able to suggest anything beyond "your TV should
play the files".
If anyone's got a similar config and knows or can help me check what I
still need to do to open up my BE for this I'd be grateful. Thanks.
Kingsley
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beww at beww

Jan 23, 2010, 9:04 AM

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Re: Philips DLNA-client TV won't play recordings [In reply to]

On Saturday 23 January 2010 09:23:23 am Kingsley Sawyers wrote:
> I'm trying to encourage my TV to play recordings from my BE. It's a
> current Philips set (pfl9604, current firmware) with an inbuilt DLNA
> client. BE is running MythDora 5 so MythTV 0.21. Recordings are all
> SD TV transmissions, nothing special.
> The TV finds the server OK, and I can navigate down to see a list of
> recordings. When I select a rec to play, however, I get a blank
> screen and a message on the TV: "File can not be found or played".
> Philips haven't been able to suggest anything beyond "your TV should
> play the files".
> If anyone's got a similar config and knows or can help me check what I
> still need to do to open up my BE for this I'd be grateful. Thanks.
> Kingsley

I have several UPnP/DLNA client machines, and an old Mythdora 5 box, so seeing
your post I decided to see what they would do.

I can see the files (these are PVR-150 recordings), but when it tries to play
them it breaks up a lot and sometimes errors out. This happens with an XBox
360, a D-Link DSM-520 and a Myka unit, so it doesn't seem to be the player
that's the problem, as they all work well with PlayOn.

It does play VOBs OK, as well as some other avi files. Seems like the players
don't like the Myth PVR files.

I'd guess that if I transcoded the files into something more standard it might
work, but that's pretty drastic.

Sorry if this doesn't actually help you much, but it should tell you your TV
is OK, and give you a data point.
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rparrish at gmail

Jan 23, 2010, 6:57 PM

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Re: Philips DLNA-client TV won't play recordings [In reply to]

Brian,

How are you able to get your XBox 360 to play the mpeg2 PVR-150
recordings without transcoding? I wish to do the same thing here to
avoid building another frontend. Do you have a Windows Media Center
Edition PC (or appropriate flavor of Vista) acting as a bridge between
your backend and the 360?

-Ray
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Jan 23, 2010, 9:31 PM

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Re: Philips DLNA-client TV won't play recordings [In reply to]

On Saturday 23 January 2010 07:57:56 pm Ray Parrish wrote:
> Brian,
>
> How are you able to get your XBox 360 to play the mpeg2 PVR-150
> recordings without transcoding? I wish to do the same thing here to
> avoid building another frontend. Do you have a Windows Media Center
> Edition PC (or appropriate flavor of Vista) acting as a bridge between
> your backend and the 360?

Not quite, but close.

I have XP running in a virtual machine, and I have it running the PlayOn
server, and I use the "local files" plugin for PlayOn, and samba mount the Myth
recordings to make them "local".

So I'm using XP (much to my chagrin), and PlayOn, and not a Vista or MCE
machine. At least the XP machine is virtual and not real. Since I have PlayOn
running anyway, to get Netflix, Hulu and some other things, this seemed like a
good answer. I refuse to send MS money for XBox Live to get Netflix. PlayOn is
$30 one time, not a monthly charge.

I can get Netflix on my PS3, but I hate to pull over 200 watts to do so. I read
somewhere that Netflix now supports the Wii, which I think draws less power
than a PS3, but I can't see buying another game console just to do that, I'd
never use a Wii for anything else, and I want the other things that PlayOn
provides.

Looking at PlayOn, porting it to Linux is probably not practical, it relies
too much on Windows-centric things, and it won't run under Wine, so a virtual
XP machine seemed the best solution.

The XP VM is running on a server via VirtualBox, separate from any Myth
machine, so my answer won't save you any hardware, unless you have a backend
that could run VirtualBox at the same time.

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kingsley.sawyers at gmail

Jan 23, 2010, 11:38 PM

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Re: Philips DLNA-client TV won't play recordings [In reply to]

Thanks, Brian

> I can see the files (these are PVR-150 recordings), but when it tries to play
> them it breaks up a lot and sometimes errors out. This happens with an XBox
> 360, a D-Link DSM-520 and a Myka unit, so it doesn't seem to be the player
> that's the problem, as they all work well with PlayOn.

I find it interesting that you get some response but that it is
ultimately unsuccessful. I imagine that will be the difference
between your source being analogue PVR-150 and mine being DVB-T.

> It does play VOBs OK, as well as some other avi files. Seems like the players
> don't like the Myth PVR files.
>
> I'd guess that if I transcoded the files into something more standard it might
> work, but that's pretty drastic.

That's an interesting thought...

> Sorry if this doesn't actually help you much, but it should tell you your TV
> is OK, and give you a data point.

Yes, it is perversely reassuring. Looks like I might be obliged to
conjure up a "real" FE. Thanks for taking the time to play with a
similar setup and summarising your findings.
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Jan 24, 2010, 1:26 AM

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Re: Philips DLNA-client TV won't play recordings [In reply to]

Kingsley Sawyers wrote:
> Thanks, Brian
>
>> I can see the files (these are PVR-150 recordings), but when it tries to play
>> them it breaks up a lot and sometimes errors out. This happens with an XBox
>> 360, a D-Link DSM-520 and a Myka unit, so it doesn't seem to be the player
>> that's the problem, as they all work well with PlayOn.
>
> I find it interesting that you get some response but that it is
> ultimately unsuccessful. I imagine that will be the difference
> between your source being analogue PVR-150 and mine being DVB-T.
>
>> It does play VOBs OK, as well as some other avi files. Seems like the players
>> don't like the Myth PVR files.
>>
>> I'd guess that if I transcoded the files into something more standard it might
>> work, but that's pretty drastic.
Just putting it in another container, same as the DVB-T and DVB-S files
are, which is MPEG-TS, wouldn't that solve the problem ?
tsMuxeR would do it fine AFAIK
>
> That's an interesting thought...
>
>> Sorry if this doesn't actually help you much, but it should tell you your TV
>> is OK, and give you a data point.
>
> Yes, it is perversely reassuring. Looks like I might be obliged to
> conjure up a "real" FE. Thanks for taking the time to play with a
> similar setup and summarising your findings.
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