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charlie.mas at gmail

Dec 24, 2009, 1:13 PM

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DVB-S All Existing Transports Out of Range

Hi all,

I have a uk based Myth TV dedicated backend and multiple frontends set
up. I have two DVB-T tunners for Freeview and one DVB-S to pick up the
Freesat channels.

My DVB-S setup appears to be malfunctioning. If in mythtv-setup I scan
all existing transports, it finds nothing almost instantly. Looking at
dmesg I find that it thinks most of the existing transport frequencies
are out of range. However some of the channels appear to work. I can
successfully make recordings from BBC HD, however zone thriller now
CBS Action seems to have stopped working. I think its moved muiltiplex
according to http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html. However I can't now
seem to get it to scan for anything.

The results of the dmesg a shown below.

3621.517031] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11262000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3621.569574] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11262000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3622.640418] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11262000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3622.690626] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11262000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3622.742528] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11262000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3702.328059] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11262000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3722.151788] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11262000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3908.428108] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12560000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3945.188331] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12560 out of range
(177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.107604] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11778000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.109877] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11817000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.113045] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11934000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.115008] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11953000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.116761] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12051000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.119158] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12129000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.121475] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12226000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.123508] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12480000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.127040] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11973000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.129793] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11992000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.133490] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12031000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.135907] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12109000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.137779] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12187000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.139895] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12207000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.141566] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12304000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.147894] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12460000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.151149] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 10714000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.153307] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 10729000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.156121] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 10743000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.158163] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 10758000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.163959] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 10773000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.166538] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 10788000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.168315] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 10802000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.169915] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 10817000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.172984] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 10832000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.176271] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 10847000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.178723] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 10876000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.183315] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 10891000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.184912] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 10906000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.186660] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 10920000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.190929] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11222000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.193688] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11223000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.197430] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11262000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.201335] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11307000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.204667] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11343000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.206609] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11344000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.208519] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11390000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.211348] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11426000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.214752] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11469000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.218622] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11488000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.220504] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11507000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.223589] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11526000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.226279] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11546000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.228713] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11565000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.230353] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11584000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.233003] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11623000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.234576] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11642000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.237313] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11661000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.241280] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11680000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.243101] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12560000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.247396] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12606000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.251338] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12643000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.255168] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12523000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.258160] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 12524000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)
[ 3970.260121] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11428000 out of
range (177000000..858000000)

Can anyone suggest anything to try?

Thanks,

Charlie M
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knowledgejunkie at gmail

Dec 24, 2009, 2:45 PM

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Re: DVB-S All Existing Transports Out of Range [In reply to]

2009/12/24 Charles Mason <charlie.mas [at] gmail>:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a uk based Myth TV dedicated backend and multiple frontends set
> up. I have two DVB-T tunners for Freeview and one DVB-S to pick up the
> Freesat channels.
>
> My DVB-S setup appears to be malfunctioning. If in mythtv-setup I scan
> all existing transports, it finds nothing almost instantly. Looking at
> dmesg I find that it thinks most of the existing transport frequencies
> are out of range. However some of the channels appear to work. I can
> successfully make recordings from BBC HD, however zone thriller now
> CBS Action seems to have stopped working. I think its moved muiltiplex
> according to http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html. However I can't now
> seem to get it to scan for anything.
>
> The results of the dmesg a shown below.
>
>  3621.517031] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11262000 out of
> range (177000000..858000000)

<snip>

Are you sure the DVB-S card has not been detected/configured as a
DVB-T card? Those min/max freqs look like terrestrial broadcast
frequencies, whilst the frontend freqs being tested appear to be DVB-S
muxes.

Cheers,
Nick

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charlie.mas at gmail

Dec 24, 2009, 3:48 PM

Post #3 of 5 (1084 views)
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Re: DVB-S All Existing Transports Out of Range [In reply to]

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Nick Morrott
<knowledgejunkie [at] gmail> wrote:
> 2009/12/24 Charles Mason <charlie.mas [at] gmail>:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a uk based Myth TV dedicated backend and multiple frontends set
>> up. I have two DVB-T tunners for Freeview and one DVB-S to pick up the
>> Freesat channels.
>>
>> My DVB-S setup appears to be malfunctioning. If in mythtv-setup I scan
>> all existing transports, it finds nothing almost instantly. Looking at
>> dmesg I find that it thinks most of the existing transport frequencies
>> are out of range. However some of the channels appear to work. I can
>> successfully make recordings from BBC HD, however zone thriller now
>> CBS Action seems to have stopped working. I think its moved muiltiplex
>> according to http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html. However I can't now
>> seem to get it to scan for anything.
>>
>> The results of the dmesg a shown below.
>>
>>  3621.517031] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11262000 out of
>> range (177000000..858000000)
>
> <snip>
>
> Are you sure the DVB-S card has not been detected/configured as a
> DVB-T card? Those min/max freqs look like terrestrial broadcast
> frequencies, whilst the frontend freqs being tested appear to be DVB-S
> muxes.
>
Thanks for the suggestion. I installed some Ubuntu updates which seem
to have changed the error message and it now seems to be working. The
update included an updated kernel image so may be that's updated the
DVB-S drivers.

Most of the channels now work, alrthough I still can't figure out why
CBS:Action is not working. Its not really a big loss.

Thanks again

Charlie M
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belcampo at zonnet

Dec 25, 2009, 2:44 AM

Post #4 of 5 (1070 views)
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Re: DVB-S All Existing Transports Out of Range [In reply to]

Nick Morrott wrote:
> 2009/12/24 Charles Mason <charlie.mas [at] gmail>:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a uk based Myth TV dedicated backend and multiple frontends set
>> up. I have two DVB-T tunners for Freeview and one DVB-S to pick up the
>> Freesat channels.
>>
>> My DVB-S setup appears to be malfunctioning. If in mythtv-setup I scan
>> all existing transports, it finds nothing almost instantly. Looking at
>> dmesg I find that it thinks most of the existing transport frequencies
>> are out of range. However some of the channels appear to work. I can
>> successfully make recordings from BBC HD, however zone thriller now
>> CBS Action seems to have stopped working. I think its moved muiltiplex
>> according to http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html. However I can't now
>> seem to get it to scan for anything.
>>
>> The results of the dmesg a shown below.
>>
>> 3621.517031] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11262000 out of
>> range (177000000..858000000)
>
> <snip>
>
> Are you sure the DVB-S card has not been detected/configured as a
> DVB-T card? Those min/max freqs look like terrestrial broadcast
> frequencies, whilst the frontend freqs being tested appear to be DVB-S
> muxes.
AFAIR these messages has almost always been the case for DVB-S, these
were 'only; warnings, didn't stop the working, at least that's for me.
>
> Cheers,
> Nick
>

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knowledgejunkie at gmail

Dec 26, 2009, 10:57 AM

Post #5 of 5 (1025 views)
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Re: DVB-S All Existing Transports Out of Range [In reply to]

2009/12/25 belcampo <belcampo [at] zonnet>:
> Nick Morrott wrote:
>>
>> 2009/12/24 Charles Mason <charlie.mas [at] gmail>:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have a uk based Myth TV dedicated backend and multiple frontends set
>>> up. I have two DVB-T tunners for Freeview and one DVB-S to pick up the
>>> Freesat channels.
>>>
>>> My DVB-S setup appears to be malfunctioning. If in mythtv-setup I scan
>>> all existing transports, it finds nothing almost instantly. Looking at
>>> dmesg I find that it thinks most of the existing transport frequencies
>>> are out of range. However some of the channels appear to work. I can
>>> successfully make recordings from BBC HD, however zone thriller now
>>> CBS Action seems to have stopped working. I think its moved muiltiplex
>>> according to http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html. However I can't now
>>> seem to get it to scan for anything.
>>>
>>> The results of the dmesg a shown below.
>>>
>>>  3621.517031] DVB: adapter 1 frontend 0 frequency 11262000 out of
>>> range (177000000..858000000)
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Are you sure the DVB-S card has not been detected/configured as a
>> DVB-T card? Those min/max freqs look like terrestrial broadcast
>> frequencies, whilst the frontend freqs being tested appear to be DVB-S
>> muxes.
>
> AFAIR these messages has almost always been the case for DVB-S, these were
> 'only; warnings, didn't stop the working, at least that's for me.

Currently true for (UK, at least) DVB-S configurations (I think
there's a ticket for this issue). However, the frequency range that
the OP gave is not that used for satellite and looks more like UHF
frequencies given in Hz.

On my DVB-S backend, I see messages such as:

2009-12-26 18:09:48.184 DVBChan(2:/dev/dvb/adapter101/frontend0)
Warning: Your frequency setting (11343000) is out of range.
(min/max:950000/2150000)

where the warning is triggered due to the incorrect comparison of the
mux frequency received by the LNB (range for Europe Ku-band dishes
11.45-12.75GHz, expressed in log message in kHz) to the LNB's output
received by the DVB-S tuner (range 950-2150MHz, expressed in log in
kHz).

To get from the former value to the latter for the purposes of
comparison, the value of the local oscillator frequency (LOF) in the
LNB used for tuning to the particular mux is subtracted. Europe
Ku-band LNBs have low and high LOFs of frequencies 9.75GHz and
10.60GHz for input ranges of 11.45-11.70GHz and 12.50-12.75GHz
respectively:

Low LOF:
11.45 - 9.75 = 1.70GHz
11.70 - 9.75 = 1.95GHz

High LOF:
12.50 - 10.60 = 1.90GHz
12.75 - 10.60 = 2.15GHz


Cheers,
Nick

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