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idht4n at gmail

Nov 22, 2009, 10:47 PM

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help picking FE/BE components

Hi,

I'm new to mythtv and about to build my first system. A frontend/backend
system that I will also use when I work from home for compiling,
running matlab etc, so I want more horsepower than myth alone would
probably require. Here's what I've tentatively picked so far:

Processor:
AMD Phenom II 965 Black 3.4 GHz X4
http://www.frys.com/product/6023518


Motherboard (this is the one I was least sure about, but I'd prefer to buy
my case,mobo,processor, and ram together at a local brick&mortar shop,
and this is one I found on Fry's web site as being compatible with Phenom II)
Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5
AMD 790FX + SB750 Chipset
http://www.frys.com/product/5842583 ($49)
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128377&Tpk=MA790FXT
($179???)
(I must be missing something... why is NewEgg 3x the price? Are these
different motherboards with very similar part numbers? If so, is the cheap
Fry's one good enough?)


Memory:
Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600MHz PC3-12800
http://www.frys.com/product/6009088


Video Card (I really have no clue here... I just googled "mythtv best vdpau" and
found a thread that recommended this one):
SPARKLE SFPC84GS512U2LP GeForce 8400 GS 512MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI HDCP
Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187042

Hard drives:
2 of these (one for OS, one for video)
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA
3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

Capture:
HD Homerun
OTA and/or Cable

Case:
I haven't picked one yet... thought I just get a recommendation at Fry's.
Now that I say it, that sounds kind of scary. Anything I should look out
for?


Does this system look like something that will work well with mythtv?
I plan to use Mythbuntu if that makes any difference although I could
be convinced to try something else.


Thanks,

David
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wilson.joe at gmail

Nov 23, 2009, 12:18 AM

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Re: help picking FE/BE components [In reply to]

Computer Case:
------------------------
The Silverstone * GD01B-MXR HTPC Case* $80.12
http://www.frys.com/product/5249507?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

A Review On The GD01-B-MXR HTPC CASE
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/printpage/723


Video Card: advance (2x) deinterlacing will work with the following..
-----------------
*EVGA GT220 1GB PCI-Express Video Card* $.79.99
http://www.frys.com/product/6054898?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG


You can find some useful information at
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU

the 8400 will work fine for Standard Defintion..


warjamy at yahoo

Nov 23, 2009, 2:53 AM

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Re: help picking FE/BE components [In reply to]

for the GPU, I would recommend at least an nVidia GeForce 9xxx

I have a mobo that has a 9300 chip (BE/FE system) and another PC with a PI express 9500GT (audio production PC - studio work, occasionally FE).

Both are working great with vdpau, so long as you disable composite effect in your WM (really no big deal) to avoid some tearing effect on the picture.

The mobo with the 9300 chip is an ASUS P5N7A-VM. It does not have a PCI express slot (in case you need one, that's not the right mobo). My tuner card is a Technisat CableStar HD2 (DVB-C) and I am quite satisfied with it.

The only issue I have with the mobo is that it does not resume from S3 properly. It actually powers off when you press the power button while the PC is sleeping (S3 state). I am not the only one reporting this issue. But I can live with that for now.

Cheers!
J.

--- On Mon, 11/23/09, David L <idht4n [at] gmail> wrote:

> From: David L <idht4n [at] gmail>
> Subject: [mythtv-users] help picking FE/BE components
> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 1:47 AM
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to mythtv and about to build my first system. 
> A frontend/backend
> system that I will also use when I work from home for
> compiling,
> running matlab etc, so I want more horsepower than myth
> alone would
> probably require.  Here's what I've tentatively picked
> so far:
>
> Processor:
> AMD Phenom II 965 Black 3.4 GHz X4
> http://www.frys.com/product/6023518
>
>
> Motherboard (this is the one I was least sure about, but
> I'd prefer to buy
> my case,mobo,processor, and ram together at a local
> brick&mortar shop,
> and this is one I found on Fry's web site as being
> compatible with Phenom II)
> Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5
> AMD 790FX + SB750 Chipset
> http://www.frys.com/product/5842583  ($49)
> or
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128377&Tpk=MA790FXT
> ($179???)
> (I must be missing something... why is NewEgg 3x the
> price?  Are these
> different motherboards with very similar part
> numbers?  If so, is the cheap
> Fry's one good enough?)
>
>
> Memory:
> Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600MHz PC3-12800
> http://www.frys.com/product/6009088
>
>
> Video Card (I really have no clue here... I just googled
> "mythtv best vdpau" and
> found a thread that recommended this one):
> SPARKLE SFPC84GS512U2LP GeForce 8400 GS 512MB 64-bit GDDR2
> PCI HDCP
> Ready Video Card
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187042
>
> Hard drives:
> 2 of these (one for OS, one for video)
> Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB
> Cache SATA
> 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073
>
> Capture:
> HD Homerun
> OTA and/or Cable
>
> Case:
> I haven't picked one yet... thought I just get a
> recommendation at Fry's.
> Now that I say it, that sounds kind of scary. 
> Anything I should look out
> for?
>
>
> Does this system look like something that will work well
> with mythtv?
> I plan to use Mythbuntu if that makes any difference
> although I could
> be convinced to try something else.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>               David
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>



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wpdster at gmail

Nov 23, 2009, 6:06 AM

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Re: help picking FE/BE components [In reply to]

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:47 AM, David L <idht4n [at] gmail> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to mythtv and about to build my first system.  A frontend/backend
> system that I will also use when I work from home for compiling,
> running matlab etc, so I want more horsepower than myth alone would
> probably require.  Here's what I've tentatively picked so far:
>
> Processor:
> AMD Phenom II 965 Black 3.4 GHz X4
> http://www.frys.com/product/6023518
>
If it's a combined FE/BE, then you might be concerned about the noise
and power consumption. (At least I was, as I just went through this
effort myself over the last 2 weeks or so). So I focused on the low
power consumption Athlon Regor (at 65W). I might have gotten one of
the 45W Semprons, but not being sure of what I was doing, I bumped the
processor up a notch, and hoped I might get one on the lower side of
the power consumption curve.

>
> Motherboard (this is the one I was least sure about, but I'd prefer to buy
> my case,mobo,processor, and ram together at a local brick&mortar shop,
> and this is one I found on Fry's web site as being compatible with Phenom II)
> Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5
> AMD 790FX + SB750 Chipset
> http://www.frys.com/product/5842583  ($49)
> or
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128377&Tpk=MA790FXT
> ($179???)
> (I must be missing something... why is NewEgg 3x the price?  Are these
> different motherboards with very similar part numbers?  If so, is the cheap
> Fry's one good enough?)
>
No clue, although I notice that the part number at Frys ends with -UD5
whereas the part number at Newegg ends with -UD5P.

>
> Memory:
> Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600MHz PC3-12800
> http://www.frys.com/product/6009088
>
From what I've read (keep in mind, I've had my Myth box assembled for
about 48 hours now, so I have absolutely no real world experience) 1GB
should be plenty for MythTV. I went with 2GB just for insurance. I
would encourage you to check the motherboard manufacture's web site to
ensure that the memory you choose has been qualified to work with that
motherboard.

I made a slight mistake in my system -- I meant to order 2 1GB sticks,
but ended up with 1 2GB stick. No big deal, but using the memory in
pairs gives a performance boost. I guess I could just buy a 2nd
(identical) 2GB stick and be stuck with 4GB instead of 2GB :-)

>
> Video Card (I really have no clue here... I just googled "mythtv best vdpau" and
> found a thread that recommended this one):
> SPARKLE SFPC84GS512U2LP GeForce 8400 GS 512MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI HDCP
> Ready Video Card
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187042
Do you want to watch HD? From what I've read, you will need an 8600
or a 9600 class card (or possibly a 9500 class card, although that
seems iffy from reports on the list.)

>
> Hard drives:
> 2 of these (one for OS, one for video)
> Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA
> 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073
I bought 2 drives as well. From what I've read, 10GB ought to be
plenty big enough for the OS drive, but 80GB was the smallest I could
find. So I split that into 3 25GB partitions (with the remainder
available for swap) so that I could have my production software
running on one partition and 2 other partitions for development and
testing. I am thinking that I will boot off the production partition
99.9% of the time (and all of the time when I leave this alone for my
family to use), but I might try different installations or
configurations on the other 2 partitions w/o (too much) fear of
messing things up on the production partition.

>
> Capture:
> HD Homerun
> OTA and/or Cable
I bought an ATI Wonder HD 600 USB stick from WOOT for $25.

>
> Case:
> I haven't picked one yet... thought I just get a recommendation at Fry's.
> Now that I say it, that sounds kind of scary.  Anything I should look out
> for?
I picked an Antec NSK2480 based on its reviews for noise (or lack
thereof) and power efficiency (80 plus power supply). I took careful
note of the height of the case to make sure that it was roughly the
same height as the TiVo+OTA digital tuner it would replace and saw
that they were comparable. Unfortunately, I didn't take much note of
the width, depth, nor weight of the case. So I was somewhat surprised
when it arrived (I ordered everything from Newegg). It looks to be
about the same size and weight as a desktop PC. Not having thought
this through too much, I assumed that a case for a uATX board would be
substantially smaller than the case for an ATX board.

My takeaway... decide if the size (and/or weight) of the case matters,
and then see if the one you choose fits. Also, for a combined FE/BE
system that is on all of the time, you might want to think about the
noise and power consumption.

>
>
> Does this system look like something that will work well with mythtv?
> I plan to use Mythbuntu if that makes any difference although I could
> be convinced to try something else.
>
My sense, having spent a couple of weeks agonizing, analyzing, and
overanalyzing, is that anything you put together today will work well
with MythTV. There will surely be some heartburn getting this driver
or that driver to work, but somebody else will have already had the
same heartburn and be more than willing to share his/her experience
with you.

--wpd
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fsquires at gmail

Nov 23, 2009, 8:17 AM

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Re: help picking FE/BE components [In reply to]

>> Video Card (I really have no clue here... I just googled "mythtv best vdpau" and
>> found a thread that recommended this one):
>> SPARKLE SFPC84GS512U2LP GeForce 8400 GS 512MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI HDCP
>> Ready Video Card
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187042
> Do you want to watch HD?  From what I've read, you will need an 8600
> or a 9600 class card (or possibly a 9500 class card, although that
> seems iffy from reports on the list.)

This isn't actually the case, when people say that you need the 8600
or 9500 for HD what they actually mean is you need those cards to play
HD with the Advanced 2X deinterlacer. You can play HD with the lesser
cards with a different deinterlacer, such as bob.
I have heard some people having trouble with HD with those lesser
cards that also had 256 MB of video RAM, but I'm not sure if that was
with the older drivers.
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idht4n at gmail

Nov 23, 2009, 8:36 AM

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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Patrick Doyle wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:47 AM, David L wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm new to mythtv and about to build my first system.
>> Processor:
>> AMD Phenom II 965 Black 3.4 GHz X4
>> http://www.frys.com/product/6023518
>>
> If it's a combined FE/BE, then you might be concerned about the noise
> and power consumption.  (At least I was, as I just went through this
> effort myself over the last 2 weeks or so).  So I focused on the low
> power consumption Athlon Regor (at 65W).  I might have gotten one of
> the 45W Semprons, but not being sure of what I was doing, I bumped the
> processor up a notch, and hoped I might get one on the lower side of
> the power consumption curve.

All things being equal, I'd like low noise and power consumption, but
it's not a priority for me right now. I'll be using this system for more than
just a myth... I'm going to use it as a desktop when I work from home.
Also, since it's my first myth system, I don't want to piddle around with
marginal processing power. Perhaps I'm underestimating the noise thing...
I have a Dell 2.8 GHz Pentium D based system right now that I tested
mythtv on and I don't hear a peep out of it. Is this phenom 2 that I picked
going to sound like a Cessna? If so, can I underclock it or disable cores
via the BIOS and make it quieter?


>
>>
>> Motherboard (this is the one I was least sure about, but I'd prefer to buy
>> my case,mobo,processor, and ram together at a local brick&mortar shop,
>> and this is one I found on Fry's web site as being compatible with Phenom II)
>> Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5
>> AMD 790FX + SB750 Chipset
>> http://www.frys.com/product/5842583  ($49)
>> or
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128377&Tpk=MA790FXT
>> ($179???)
>> (I must be missing something... why is NewEgg 3x the price?  Are these
>> different motherboards with very similar part numbers?  If so, is the cheap
>> Fry's one good enough?)
>>
> No clue, although I notice that the part number at Frys ends with -UD5
> whereas the part number at Newegg ends with -UD5P.
Yea, I noticed that too, but the pictures look the same and the descriptions
look about the same. Also, in the "Detailed Description" section at the
bottom of the Fry's page for that product it says this:

"The GA-MA790FXT-UD5P introduces revolutionary" ...

So Fry's detailed description of the motherboard has the same part
number as the NewEgg part number for 1/3 the price.

>>
>> Video Card (I really have no clue here... I just googled "mythtv best vdpau" and
>> found a thread that recommended this one):
>> SPARKLE SFPC84GS512U2LP GeForce 8400 GS 512MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI HDCP
>> Ready Video Card
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187042
> Do you want to watch HD?  From what I've read, you will need an 8600
> or a 9600 class card (or possibly a 9500 class card, although that
> seems iffy from reports on the list.)
Yes, I do. I really don't care about it most of the time, but I don't
want to build a system today that can't handle HD just for future
proofing it. I think I'm going to go with an earlier response and
go with this GT220 card:

http://www.frys.com/product/6054898

According to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU
it should be able to handle "Complete acceleration for
MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 Part 2 , VC-1/WMV9 and H.264"

>
>>
>> Hard drives:
>> 2 of these (one for OS, one for video)
>> Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA
>> 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073
> I bought 2 drives as well.  From what I've read, 10GB ought to be
> plenty big enough for the OS drive, but 80GB was the smallest I could
> find.
I'd buy a smaller drive for the OS if it weren't for the small
price differences I found between ~100GB and 500GB
drives these days.

Thanks for the feedback,

David
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jarpublic at gmail

Nov 23, 2009, 8:53 AM

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> All things being equal, I'd like low noise and power consumption, but
> it's not a priority for me right now.  I'll be using this system for more than
> just a myth... I'm going to use it as a desktop when I work from home.
> Also, since it's my first myth system, I don't want to piddle around with
> marginal processing power.  Perhaps I'm underestimating the noise thing...
> I have a Dell 2.8 GHz Pentium D based system right now that I tested
> mythtv on and I don't hear a peep out of it.  Is this phenom 2 that I picked
> going to sound like a Cessna?  If so, can I underclock it or disable cores
> via the BIOS and make it quieter?

This has more to do with your heatsink/fan than the CPU. Any processor
you look at is going to have a fan. You can use fancontrol to slow
than fans down when it is idling and it should be quiet. Worse case
you guy a quiet fan from Scythe or somebody like that. It isn't too
hard to get a virtually silent CPU fan.

> Yes, I do.  I really don't care about it most of the time, but I don't
> want to build a system today that can't handle HD just for future
> proofing it.  I think I'm going to go with an earlier response and
> go with this GT220 card:
>
> http://www.frys.com/product/6054898
>
> According to this:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU
> it should be able to handle "Complete acceleration for
> MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 Part 2 , VC-1/WMV9 and H.264"

There are two separate issues being discussed. VDPAU does the decoding
and deinterlacing. All of the VDPAU cards can decode HD video. The 2xx
series cards have added the ability to decode MPEG-4 part 2 (aka
xvid/divx). Almost all of the cards can to all of the deinterlacers
with the exception of the highest quality one, Advanced 2x. So all the
discussion about whether a VDPAU card can do HD is generally referring
to whether it can do Advanced 2x deinterlacing on HD. Since you are
building a new system and want to have some future proofing, then it
is probably wise to go with the GT220. The only downside is you may
want to find a fanless card, and I don't think anybody has found a
fanless GT220 that was available and actually for sale.
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wilson.joe at gmail

Nov 23, 2009, 3:54 PM

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I know this is a bit off the topic , but I can't help bringing it up..
I remember when frys was called the fabulous universe or something like
that,
thats where I had gotten my first taste of linux.. they had every distro on
disc
available for purchase.. and I got myself Red Hat... and I bough a few of
the
little stuffed penguins they had on display. The store manager here in
Wilsonville
claims that it didnt happen, but I don't think the guy must of been working
there then.
In fact I still got the two stuffed penguins next to my speakers on my
dresser
setup to my ipod and docking station & I might still have the redhat discs
and large
manual in a box somewhere....

Anyway the real reason for this post was about a motherboard I was looking
at
over at Newegg..

GigaByte GA-EP45T-UD3LR LGA 775 INTEL P45 ATX INTEL MOTHERBOARD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128371

The reason it caught my eye was the 6 sata, 4 pci-e x1, 1 pci-e 16 and 2 pci
slots.
I don't seem to find any pci slots that often anymore. one might be able to
push
upto 6 tuners in there, and a graphic card.. It doesn't come with onboard
graphics,
which is a plus if one was going to add a card anyway. Im not sure if
something
like this would work or not..


travis at tabbal

Nov 24, 2009, 9:12 AM

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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Joe Wilson <wilson.joe [at] gmail> wrote:

>
> The reason it caught my eye was the 6 sata, 4 pci-e x1, 1 pci-e 16 and 2
> pci slots.
> I don't seem to find any pci slots that often anymore. one might be able to
> push
> upto 6 tuners in there, and a graphic card.. It doesn't come with onboard
> graphics,
> which is a plus if one was going to add a card anyway. Im not sure if
> something
> like this would work or not..
>


I don't see any reason it wouldn't work. The only downside I see to it is
that it's a full ATX board, so you need a pretty good size case. If you're
OK with that as a FE box, then go for it. Most people seem to want smaller
boxes near the TV. As a dedicated BE, no problem, you can put those in
another room or whatever. Keep in mind that a bunch of tuner cards and HDDs
are going to make heat, that means you need fans to get that heat out of the
case. Careful selection of fans can keep the noise level down. Again, it
matters more for a FE box than for a BE only box.


idht4n at gmail

Nov 27, 2009, 3:58 PM

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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Joe Wilson wrote:
<snip>
> Video Card:   advance (2x) deinterlacing will work with the following..
> -----------------
> EVGA GT220 1GB PCI-Express Video Card   $.79.99
> http://www.frys.com/product/6054898?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
>

OK, I built this system and I'm getting stuck during boot.
I'm trying to use a Fedora 12 live USB to start with.
The messages I see before the video goes into
the weeds are:

pci 0000:00:00.0: BAR 3: address space collision on of device
[0xe0000000-0xffffffff]
[drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Pointer to BIT loadval table invalid
[drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: 0xD6B5: Init table command not found: 0x8C
[drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: 0xDEA4: Init table command not found: 0x00


I've tried 32 and 64 bit Live USBs and I've tried nomodeset.

I'm assuming the problem is related to the video card based
on the last messages I see, but I'm not sure. I haven't tried
seeing if the system is alive via a serial console, so I can't
tell if it's only video that is not working.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

David

PS - I'm going to try to make a Live USB mythbuntu 9.10
next and see if that works any better. I don't have an
optical drive yet, so I tried Fedora first since I know how
to make live USBs with Fedora.
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idht4n at gmail

Nov 27, 2009, 9:18 PM

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Re: help picking FE/BE components [In reply to]

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:58 PM, David L wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Joe Wilson wrote:
> <snip>
>> Video Card:   advance (2x) deinterlacing will work with the following..
>> -----------------
>> EVGA GT220 1GB PCI-Express Video Card   $.79.99
>> http://www.frys.com/product/6054898?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
>>
>
> OK, I built this system and I'm getting stuck during boot.
> I'm trying to use a Fedora 12 live USB to start with.
> The messages I see before the video goes into
> the weeds are:
>
> pci 0000:00:00.0: BAR 3: address space collision on of device
> [0xe0000000-0xffffffff]
> [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Pointer to BIT loadval table invalid
> [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: 0xD6B5: Init table command not found: 0x8C
> [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: 0xDEA4: Init table command not found: 0x00
>
>
Well, I got mythbuntu 9.10 live USB booting and it seems to work!
So I guess the fedora live problem is just a fedora problem. I was
leaning toward mythbuntu anyway, so that clinches it.

So far, the only problem I've seen under mythbuntu live
is that /proc/cpuinfo reports 800MHz CPU speed for my
3400MHz processor and meminfo reports 2837016 kB
for my 4G of ram. Not sure if I have something
misconfigured in the BIOS or what.

Cheers,

David

PS - Here's what cpuinfo reports for the first CPU:

processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 16
model : 4
model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor
stepping : 3
cpu MHz : 800.000
cache size : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 4
core id : 0
cpu cores : 4
apicid : 0
initial apicid : 0
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat
pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb
rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni
monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm
sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt
bogomips : 6830.50
clflush size : 64
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate
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Nov 28, 2009, 5:38 AM

Post #12 of 13 (799 views)
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Re: help picking FE/BE components [In reply to]

On Friday 27 November 2009 10:18:05 pm David L wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:58 PM, David L wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Joe Wilson wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> >> Video Card: advance (2x) deinterlacing will work with the following..
> >> -----------------
> >> EVGA GT220 1GB PCI-Express Video Card $.79.99
> >> http://www.frys.com/product/6054898?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
> >
> > OK, I built this system and I'm getting stuck during boot.
> > I'm trying to use a Fedora 12 live USB to start with.
> > The messages I see before the video goes into
> > the weeds are:
> >
> > pci 0000:00:00.0: BAR 3: address space collision on of device
> > [0xe0000000-0xffffffff]
> > [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Pointer to BIT loadval table invalid
> > [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: 0xD6B5: Init table command not found:
0x8C
> > [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: 0xDEA4: Init table command not found:
0x00
>
> Well, I got mythbuntu 9.10 live USB booting and it seems to work!
> So I guess the fedora live problem is just a fedora problem. I was
> leaning toward mythbuntu anyway, so that clinches it.
>
> So far, the only problem I've seen under mythbuntu live
> is that /proc/cpuinfo reports 800MHz CPU speed for my
> 3400MHz processor and meminfo reports 2837016 kB
> for my 4G of ram. Not sure if I have something
> misconfigured in the BIOS or what.

/proc/cpuinfo will tell you the current speed of the CPU, which is likely to
have been throttled down. You'll need to load the CPU to get it throttled up
or else adjust your CPU speed control.

Some motherboards have problems with more than 2GB of RAM, but none
will allow all of 4GB. You might look at your settings for the memory hole,
MMU etc.

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beww at beww

Nov 28, 2009, 5:50 AM

Post #13 of 13 (800 views)
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Re: help picking FE/BE components [In reply to]

On Saturday 28 November 2009 06:38:02 am Brian Wood wrote:

> /proc/cpuinfo will tell you the current speed of the CPU, which is likely
> to have been throttled down. You'll need to load the CPU to get it
> throttled up or else adjust your CPU speed control.

Sorry, I meant that you would have to load the CPU or adjust the speed
stepping *if* you want /proc/cpuinfo to show the max speed of your CPU.
There's no real reason to do that, unless you want to check that the CPU
actually clocks up to its rated speed and is stable there, or measure power
draw at that speed.
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