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rbonafied at gmail

Nov 25, 2009, 2:53 PM

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Never built a system from scratch - will this work?

Hi,

My myth box just bit the dust and I'm clamoring to have a replacement
ready as soon as possible. Since I've never built one from scratch I
was wondering if I'll be ok with this setup:

----------
GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD
Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128394

Antec New Solution NSK2480 Black/Silver 0.8mm cold-rolled steel MicroATX
Desktop Computer Case 380W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129034

AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W
Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103681
-----------

One thing I'm concerned about is whether the motherboard will fit in the
case. I tried looking at the pictures, but I'm having a tough time
determining if all the back panel jacks and stuff will line up with
opening. I intend to move my 2 PVR 150's into it as well.

I'm planning to use my existing IDE disks but it looks like it will only
support two of them. (I have 3)

Do you think I should not use the onboard VATI ideo card and get an Nvidia?

If this case is too tight, what would you recommend that also has 24+8
power leads?

Thank you!
Rick

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goofdad at gmail

Nov 25, 2009, 3:06 PM

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Re: Never built a system from scratch - will this work? [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Rick <rbonafied [at] gmail> wrote:
> My myth box just bit the dust and I'm clamoring to have a replacement
> ready as soon as possible. Since I've never built one from scratch I
> was wondering if I'll be ok with this setup:
> ----------
> GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD
> Antec New Solution NSK2480 Black/Silver 0.8mm cold-rolled steel MicroATX
> AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W
> -----------
> One thing I'm concerned about is whether the motherboard will fit in the
> case. I tried looking at the pictures, but I'm having a tough time
> determining if all the back panel jacks and stuff will line up with
> opening. I intend to move my 2 PVR 150's into it as well.
>
> I'm planning to use my existing IDE disks but it looks like it will only
> support two of them. (I have 3)
>
> Do you think I should not use the onboard VATI ideo card and get an Nvidia?
>
> If this case is too tight, what would you recommend that also has 24+8
> power leads?

1: That looks like a good start. Don't forget ram, dvd drive, etc.
2: Yes, the motherboard ports will exit the case fine. The plate with
all the portholes in it is able to be knocked out, and your
motherboard -shoud- come with one to replace it with (if it doesn't,
you can call the manufacturer and get one)
3: the PVR150's are gonna be right next to each other...be sure you
keep this in a well ventilated area...that could get hot.
4: Yep...only 2 IDE's ... and don't forget your DVD drive might be IDE as well.
5: NVidia . . . and see #3 about heat.

Remember...things are always cramped in a mmpc.
Hope that helps!
--
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travis at tabbal

Nov 25, 2009, 3:06 PM

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Re: Never built a system from scratch - will this work? [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Rick <rbonafied [at] gmail> wrote:

>
> One thing I'm concerned about is whether the motherboard will fit in the
> case. I tried looking at the pictures, but I'm having a tough time
> determining if all the back panel jacks and stuff will line up with
> opening. I intend to move my 2 PVR 150's into it as well.
>

Motherboards come with a metal panel to fit into the back of the case so
that the ports aren't an issue. If you have 2 slots on the mobo and the
case, then your cards should be fine.

>
> I'm planning to use my existing IDE disks but it looks like it will only
> support two of them. (I have 3)
>

Might be a problem. If it has only 1 IDE port (most do) then you have to
share the IDE port to attach 2 drives. This will cause performance problems.
If it will cause problems for your uses is hard to say. I only mention it so
you can be aware of it. I'd switch to SATA disks if you can, for at least
the recordings.

>
> Do you think I should not use the onboard VATI ideo card and get an Nvidia?
>

VDPAU is really nice. I would do that, personally. I use NVidia in all my
frontend boxes.

lindsay.mathieson at gmail

Nov 25, 2009, 4:15 PM

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Re: Never built a system from scratch - will this work? [In reply to]

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:53:22 -0500, Rick <rbonafied [at] gmail> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My myth box just bit the dust and I'm clamoring to have a replacement
> ready as soon as possible. Since I've never built one from scratch I
> was wondering if I'll be ok with this setup:
>
> ----------
> GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD
> Motherboard
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128394
>
> Antec New Solution NSK2480 Black/Silver 0.8mm cold-rolled steel MicroATX
> Desktop Computer Case 380W Power Supply
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129034
>
> AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W
> Dual-Core Processor
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103681
> -----------
>
> One thing I'm concerned about is whether the motherboard will fit in the
> case.

It should fit fine - I have a NSK2480 and my MicroATX Gigabyte board
fitted fine. Excellent case BTW, I've been very pleased with it. Quiet,
easy to fit stuff in and looks good.

> I'm planning to use my existing IDE disks but it looks like it will only
> support two of them. (I have 3)

Yes, it only has rooms for two drives - ut the rubber grommits and
suspension make them really quite :) Perhpas time to upgrade to a couple of
1TB drivers and just copy everything over? :)

Alternatively if you don't want a DVD drive you could probably slot one in
there. Wouldn't be as quiet as the dedicated bays though.

>
> Do you think I should not use the onboard VATI ideo card and get an
Nvidia?

Absolutely. Go Nvidia.

> If this case is too tight, what would you recommend that also has 24+8
> power leads?

No opinion, but I think you'll have no problem.

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Lindsay Mathieson
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nico at youplala

Nov 25, 2009, 11:26 PM

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Re: Never built a system from scratch - will this work? [In reply to]

On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 17:53 -0500, Rick wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My myth box just bit the dust and I'm clamoring to have a replacement
> ready as soon as possible. Since I've never built one from scratch I
> was wondering if I'll be ok with this setup:
>
> ----------
> GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD
> Motherboard
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128394
>
> Antec New Solution NSK2480 Black/Silver 0.8mm cold-rolled steel
> MicroATX
> Desktop Computer Case 380W Power Supply
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129034
>
> AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W
> Dual-Core Processor
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103681
> -----------
>
> One thing I'm concerned about is whether the motherboard will fit in
> the
> case. I tried looking at the pictures, but I'm having a tough time
> determining if all the back panel jacks and stuff will line up with
> opening. I intend to move my 2 PVR 150's into it as well.
>
> I'm planning to use my existing IDE disks but it looks like it will
> only
> support two of them. (I have 3)
>
> Do you think I should not use the onboard VATI ideo card and get an
> Nvidia?
>
> If this case is too tight, what would you recommend that also has 24+8
> power leads?

This is the current kitlist that I have in mind on order to build
systems for a few friends and colleagues here:

http://www.youplala.net/~will/htpc/Turnkey_MythTV.html

If that can help...

Nico

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allen.p.edwards at gmail

Nov 26, 2009, 6:54 AM

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Re: Never built a system from scratch - will this work? [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Rick <rbonafied [at] gmail> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My myth box just bit the dust and I'm clamoring to have a replacement
> ready as soon as possible. Since I've never built one from scratch I
> was wondering if I'll be ok with this setup:
>
> ----------
> GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD
> Motherboard
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128394
>
> Antec New Solution NSK2480 Black/Silver 0.8mm cold-rolled steel MicroATX
> Desktop Computer Case 380W Power Supply
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129034
>
> AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W
> Dual-Core Processor
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103681
> -----------
>
> One thing I'm concerned about is whether the motherboard will fit in the
> case. I tried looking at the pictures, but I'm having a tough time
> determining if all the back panel jacks and stuff will line up with
> opening. I intend to move my 2 PVR 150's into it as well.
>
> I'm planning to use my existing IDE disks but it looks like it will only
> support two of them. (I have 3)
>
> Do you think I should not use the onboard VATI ideo card and get an Nvidia?
>
> If this case is too tight, what would you recommend that also has 24+8
> power leads?
>
> Thank you!
> Rick
>
>
You might consider this case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811121010

<http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811121010>and an ATX
system as it will hold your three drives and has lots of room. Also, I
didn't see that you mentioned your tuners but the HDHR is the way to go. I
use this case. I bought 3 silent fans when I got the case, two in the rear
and 1 in the front.

My son just bought this case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageGallery.aspx?CurImage=11-112-218-S01&ISList=11-112-218-S01,11-112-218-S02,11-112-218-S03,11-112-218-S04,11-112-218-S05,11-112-218-S06,11-112-218-S07,11-112-218-S08,11-112-218-S09,11-112-218-S10,11-112-218-S11,11-112-218-S12&S7ImageFlag=1&Item=N82E16811112218&Depa=0&WaterMark=1&Description=LIAN%20LI%20PC-A05NB%20Black%20Aluminum%20ATX%20Mini%20Tower%20Computer%20Case

and it really looks nice and has great air flow so his processor with a big
heat sink runs almost room temperature. It is a tower but really nice
looking. If I had room for a tower case, I would switch out the one I have
as this one is really nice. The price is probably the same once you add in
the case fans that are needed with the other one I mentioned.

It all depends on how much room you have. Room determines case determines
MB size and that determines how many drives you can run etc.

Allen

rbonafied at gmail

Nov 26, 2009, 7:42 AM

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Re: Never built a system from scratch - will this work? [In reply to]

I ordered all the components for the system last night after going cross
eyed from reading so many specs. I just realized this morning that the
motherboard is a micro-atx size, but the case I ordered is atx. Am I
going to have a problem?

This is the case I ordered:
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

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jarpublic at gmail

Nov 26, 2009, 8:19 AM

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Re: Never built a system from scratch - will this work? [In reply to]

> I ordered all the components for the system last night after going cross
> eyed from reading so many specs. I just realized this morning that the
> motherboard is a micro-atx size, but the case I ordered is atx. Am I going
> to have a problem?

No you should be fine I put microATX in to ATX cases on several
occasions. I believe the microATX mounts line up with ATX mounts by
design or the case provide mounts for microATX. But the microATX
boards fit in ATX cases just fine.
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Nov 26, 2009, 8:51 AM

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Re: Never built a system from scratch - will this work? [In reply to]

Rick wrote:
> I ordered all the components for the system last night after going
> cross eyed from reading so many specs. I just realized this morning
> that the motherboard is a micro-atx size, but the case I ordered is
> atx. Am I going to have a problem?
>
> This is the case I ordered:
> Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
>
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
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>

Should work just fine.
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allen.p.edwards at gmail

Nov 26, 2009, 8:57 AM

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Re: Never built a system from scratch - will this work? [In reply to]

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Rick <rbonafied [at] gmail> wrote:

> I ordered all the components for the system last night after going cross
> eyed from reading so many specs. I just realized this morning that the
> motherboard is a micro-atx size, but the case I ordered is atx. Am I going
> to have a problem?
>
> This is the case I ordered:
> Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
>
>
>
I have that case, it is a very nice case. Very quiet and lots of space,
very easy to install disk drives as you do it from the front. You will like
that case.

Allen

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