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tortise at paradise

Nov 22, 2009, 11:50 AM

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Cell Phones - Remote Control or Display Device preferred - please vote!

ex OT: Nokia N900
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Sharkey" <eric [at] lisaneric>
To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Nokia N900

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Richard Morton
<richard.e.morton [at] gmail> wrote:
>> Changing it to be a control interface would appeal to many more users (I
>> would think)

>Not to me. I already have a remote and don't feel any need to use my cell phone as one.

It does for me, having one less remote control that works from more places is of great appeal for me. Each user could then have
their own personal remote.

I've been thinking about a webpage (maybe AJAX) that's linked to the telnet controls, that could be called from any browser on any
device.... I've not yet looked into interfacing a webpage into telnet but expect it can somehow be done? Perhaps someone here can
comment?

Votes and Comments welcomed!

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johnnyjboss at gmail

Nov 22, 2009, 11:57 AM

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Re: Cell Phones - Remote Control or Display Device preferred - please vote! [In reply to]

Yeah I wanted an iPhone remote for myth - was suprised it didn't exist
yet.

Maybe I just didn't look hard enough.

On Nov 22, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Tortise <tortise [at] paradise> wrote:

> ex OT: Nokia N900
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Sharkey" <eric [at] lisaneric>
> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Nokia N900
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Richard Morton
> <richard.e.morton [at] gmail> wrote:
>>> Changing it to be a control interface would appeal to many more
>>> users (I
>>> would think)
>
>> Not to me. I already have a remote and don't feel any need to use
>> my cell phone as one.
>
> It does for me, having one less remote control that works from more
> places is of great appeal for me. Each user could then have their
> own personal remote.
>
> I've been thinking about a webpage (maybe AJAX) that's linked to the
> telnet controls, that could be called from any browser on any
> device.... I've not yet looked into interfacing a webpage into
> telnet but expect it can somehow be done? Perhaps someone here can
> comment?
>
> Votes and Comments welcomed!
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wpoland at gmail

Nov 22, 2009, 12:06 PM

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Re: Cell Phones - Remote Control or Display Device preferred - please vote! [In reply to]

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Johnny Walker <johnnyjboss [at] gmail> wrote:
> Yeah I wanted an iPhone remote for myth - was suprised it didn't exist
> yet.
>
> Maybe I just didn't look hard enough.
>

search the app store for MyMote.
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johnnyjboss at gmail

Nov 22, 2009, 12:16 PM

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Re: Cell Phones - Remote Control or Display Device preferred - please vote! [In reply to]

On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Byron Poland <wpoland [at] gmail> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Johnny Walker
> <johnnyjboss [at] gmail> wrote:
>> Yeah I wanted an iPhone remote for myth - was suprised it didn't
>> exist
>> yet.
>>
>> Maybe I just didn't look hard enough.
>>
>
> search the app store for MyMote.

Sweet - thanks

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richard.e.morton at gmail

Nov 22, 2009, 12:33 PM

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Re: Cell Phones - Remote Control or Display Device preferred - please vote! [In reply to]

If I had to choose; a remote control that used the benefits of the
touchscreen device. Showing information on the device and completing actions
based on choices, not simply up down left right volume skip and select

This is a stepping stone to being able to use the device as a frontend as
well when the backend supports on the fly transcoding.

This could mostly be supported in a end-point (tablet device) independant
way by implelementing multiple upnp sub-standards... media controlpoint and
media renderer.

There seems to me that there are many mobile platforms worth supporting, rim
blackberry, apple itouch, android, symbian and even windows mobile. All
these platforms surely have upnp clients or media players that support upnp.

Once that was in place building a webfrontend overlay could provide a
consistent interface. This was proposed to me by a developer and although a
slightly complex architecture it is based on standards and therefore would
enable so many devices and allow the solution to be built in stages with
incremental benefits as components are released.

R

P.s. I write all this but I am sure my view is well understood by many, I
don't mean to annoy, it is just something I am passionate about.

Please excuse brevity and mistakes, this email was composed on a mobile
phone.

Thanks and regards,
Richard Morton
07899750400

On 22 Nov 2009 20:17, "Johnny Walker" <johnnyjboss [at] gmail> wrote:

On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Byron Poland <wpoland [at] gmail> wrote: > On
Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:5...
Sweet - thanks

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frenchmythtv at free

Nov 23, 2009, 12:37 PM

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Re: Cell Phones - Remote Control or Display Device preferred - please vote! [In reply to]

Hello,
I have installed a frontend on my neo freerunner phone (debian based
distribution H:1).
I am not able to watch live TV yet (hardware not power full, need to
transcode before), but I can program TV recording and use front end menus.

Richard Morton a �crit :
> If I had to choose; a remote control that used the benefits of the
> touchscreen device. Showing information on the device and completing actions
> based on choices, not simply up down left right volume skip and select
>
> This is a stepping stone to being able to use the device as a frontend as
> well when the backend supports on the fly transcoding.
>
> This could mostly be supported in a end-point (tablet device) independant
> way by implelementing multiple upnp sub-standards... media controlpoint and
> media renderer.
>
> There seems to me that there are many mobile platforms worth supporting, rim
> blackberry, apple itouch, android, symbian and even windows mobile. All
> these platforms surely have upnp clients or media players that support upnp.
>
> Once that was in place building a webfrontend overlay could provide a
> consistent interface. This was proposed to me by a developer and although a
> slightly complex architecture it is based on standards and therefore would
> enable so many devices and allow the solution to be built in stages with
> incremental benefits as components are released.
>
> R
>
> P.s. I write all this but I am sure my view is well understood by many, I
> don't mean to annoy, it is just something I am passionate about.
>
> Please excuse brevity and mistakes, this email was composed on a mobile
> phone.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Richard Morton
> 07899750400
>
>
>
> On 22 Nov 2009 20:17, "Johnny Walker" <johnnyjboss [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Byron Poland <wpoland [at] gmail> wrote: > On
> Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:5...
> Sweet - thanks
>
>
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>>
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nick.rout at gmail

Nov 23, 2009, 12:41 PM

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Re: Cell Phones - Remote Control or Display Device preferred - please vote! [In reply to]

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Tortise <tortise [at] paradise> wrote:
>
> I've been thinking about a webpage (maybe AJAX) that's linked to the telnet
> controls, that could be called from any browser on any device.... �I've not
> yet looked into interfacing a webpage into telnet but expect it can somehow
> be done? �Perhaps someone here can comment?

Isn't this in mythweb already?
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james.orr7 at gmail

Nov 23, 2009, 12:51 PM

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Re: Cell Phones - Remote Control or Display Device preferred - please vote! [In reply to]

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Tortise <tortise [at] paradise> wrote:

> ex OT: Nokia N900
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Sharkey" <eric [at] lisaneric>
> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Nokia N900
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Richard Morton
> <richard.e.morton [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>> Changing it to be a control interface would appeal to many more users (I
>>> would think)
>>>
>>
> Not to me. I already have a remote and don't feel any need to use my cell
>> phone as one.
>>
>
> It does for me, having one less remote control that works from more places
> is of great appeal for me. Each user could then have their own personal
> remote.
>
> I've been thinking about a webpage (maybe AJAX) that's linked to the telnet
> controls, that could be called from any browser on any device.... I've not
> yet looked into interfacing a webpage into telnet but expect it can somehow
> be done? Perhaps someone here can comment?
>
> Votes and Comments welcomed!
>

MythDroid (http://code.google.com/p/mythdroid/ - it's not on the market)
worked pretty well on my Motorola Droid phone in 0.21, but it doesn't work
with 0.22 though there's a note on the webpage saying changes to make it
work with 0.22 are minimal. I'm not sure how often this is updated, I might
take a look at it myself at some point.

One other problem I had with it is that I have a menu to select recording
group show up as you enter watch recordings and a menu when you exit
recordings (as I usually delete right after watching something it's
convenient) and mythdroid didn't handle those correctly. Other than that it
was good, even if for me in more of a "look what my new phone can do" kind
of way.

There's another one that is in the market but it didn't work at all.

memmott at gmail

Nov 23, 2009, 1:33 PM

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Re: Cell Phones - Remote Control or Display Device preferred - please vote! [In reply to]

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Johnny Walker <johnnyjboss [at] gmail>wrote:

> On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Byron Poland <wpoland [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Johnny Walker
> > <johnnyjboss [at] gmail> wrote:
> >> Yeah I wanted an iPhone remote for myth - was suprised it didn't
> >> exist
> >> yet.
> >>
> >> Maybe I just didn't look hard enough.
> >>
> >
> > search the app store for MyMote.
>
> Sweet - thanks
>
> > _______________________________________________
>

Just search for MythTV, you'll find RRgh as well.

gull at gull

Nov 24, 2009, 9:26 PM

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Re: Cell Phones - Remote Control or Display Device preferred - please vote! [In reply to]

Tortise wrote:
> I've been thinking about a webpage (maybe AJAX) that's linked to the
> telnet controls, that could be called from any browser on any
> device.... I've not yet looked into interfacing a webpage into telnet
> but expect it can somehow be done? Perhaps someone here can comment?

http://www.mythtv.co.nz/mythtv/remote/index.html

Probably not exactly what you have in mind, but it might be a good
starting point. It uses PHP CGI scripts along with a bit of JavaScript.

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tortise at paradise

Nov 25, 2009, 10:51 AM

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Re: Cell Phones - Remote Control or Display Device preferred - please vote! [In reply to]

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Brodbeck" <gull [at] gull>
To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Cell Phones - Remote Control or Display Device preferred - please vote!

Tortise wrote:
> I've been thinking about a webpage (maybe AJAX) that's linked to the
> telnet controls, that could be called from any browser on any
> device.... I've not yet looked into interfacing a webpage into telnet
> but expect it can somehow be done? Perhaps someone here can comment?

http://www.mythtv.co.nz/mythtv/remote/index.html

Probably not exactly what you have in mind, but it might be a good
starting point. It uses PHP CGI scripts along with a bit of JavaScript.

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Thank you for that David, that does look interesting, especially as it may run on a very wide range of devices with a browser!
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richard.e.morton at gmail

Nov 25, 2009, 4:11 PM

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Re: Cell Phones - Remote Control or Display Device preferred - please vote! [In reply to]

Hi David,

Thanks for that; I have seen that interface before, infact it may have
been you that pointed me in it's direction. For me it is not an
agreeable interface as it is copying the remote-controller paradigm
which doesnt lend itself to touch-tablets where there is no
feel-feedback of location; like there is with button shapes and
markings on a physical remote.

Due to this you end up see-sawing between reading the TV screen and
the tablet screen; rather than interacting with information and button
actions on the tablet screen and reverting to watching the TV once you
have completed what ever action you were looking to perform.

R
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