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mythtvusers at markgarland

Nov 18, 2009, 4:12 AM

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Freeview HD in UK in 6mths?

Hi all,

For those in the UK, this looks interesting...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2009/11_november/16/freeview.shtml

"Today the BBC has confirmed the timetable that will make HD services on
Freeview available to 50% of the population in time for next June's World
Cup, and to 98.5% [1] of the population by the end of digital switchover in
three years' time."

Will be interested to see the Freeview HD cards that become available - I'm
guessing that these will be "DVB-T2" ?

Someone pointed out
http://www.leconcepts.com/products/vivanco-dvb-t2-2.html as a start.
Would prefer something PCI based and Hauppauge.

I've attached the transmittion switch over dates below.

Cheers,

MG


England

Area - transmitter group - date

Manchester, Winter Hill, 2 December 2009
London, Crystal Palace, 2 December 2009 – advance network
Newcastle and Tyneside, Pontop Pike, February 2010 – advance network
Leeds/Bradford, Emley Moor, March 2010 – advance network
Birmingham, Lichfield, March 2010 – advance network
Liverpool, central Lancashire, Cheshire, north Staffordshire, Winter Hill
relays, March 2010 – retrofit
Exeter, parts of Devon, Somerset, Dorset, Stockland Hill, April 2010 –
retrofit
Bristol, Somerset, Dorset, Wiltshire, Gloucestershire, Mendip, April 2010
Devon, Cornwall, and the Isles of Scilly, Beacon Hill, Caradon Hill,
Huntshaw Cross, Redruth August 2010 – retrofit
Cumbria and the Lake District, Caldbeck, October 2010 – retrofit

Then Freeview HD rolls out with the rest of the switchover programme, so:

201 – Bedfordshire, Berkshire (parts), Buckinghamshire, Cambridgeshire,
East Anglia, East Midlands, East Yorkshire, Gloucestershire, Herefordshire,
Humberside, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire, Shropshire, South
Yorkshire, Staffordshire (parts), Stoke-on-Trent, West Midlands
(remainder), and West Yorkshire (remainder).

2012 – Berkshire (remainder), County Durham, Greater London (remainder),
Hampshire, Isle of Wight, Kent, Northumberland, North Yorkshire, Surrey,
Sussex, Teesside, Tyneside.

Wales

Cardiff, Newport, Wenvoe, March 2010
Swansea, Kilvey Hill, March 2010 – retrofit
West and central Wales, Blaenplwyf, March 2010
Carmarthenshire, Carmel, April 2010 – retrofit
Rest of Wales, Long Mountain, Moel y Parc, Presely mid-June 2010 –
retrofit
Anglesey, Llanddona, July 2010 – retrofit

Wales will have switched over to digital and the roll-out of Freeview HD
will be complete by the end of July 2010.

Scotland

Glasgow, central Scotland, Black Hill, February 2010 – advance network
Shetland, Bressay, May 2010
Orkney, Keelylang Hill, May 2010
Caithness, North Sutherland, Rumster Forest, mid-June 2010
Lewis, Wester Ross, North West Sutherland, Western Isles, Eitshal Skriaig,
July 2010
Angus, Dundee, Perth, and parts of Fife, Angus, August 2010
Aberdeenshire, Durris, September 2010
Morayshire, Strathspey, and parts of Easter Ross, Knockmore, October 2010
South West Scotland, Caldbeck Scotland, October 2010
Inverness and the Great Glen, Rosemarkie, October 2010
South West Highlands and Islands, Torosay, October 2010
Scottish Borders, Selkirk, November 2010 – retrofit

Then Freeview HD rolls out with the rest of the switchover programme so
that the whole of Scotland is switched over to digital and will be able to
receive Freeview HD by the end of Q2, 2011.

Northern Ireland

Freeview HD rolls out with the rest of the switchover programme so that the
whole of Northern Ireland is switched over to digital and will be able to
receive Freeview HD by the end of 2012.

Other areas

Isle of Man, Douglas, October 2010 – retrofit
Channel Islands, Fremont Point, end 2010
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jstembridge at gmail

Nov 18, 2009, 4:17 AM

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Re: Freeview HD in UK in 6mths? [In reply to]

2009/11/18 <mythtvusers [at] markgarland>:
> Will be interested to see the Freeview HD cards that become available - I'm
> guessing that these will be "DVB-T2" ?

Yes.

> Someone pointed out
> http://www.leconcepts.com/products/vivanco-dvb-t2-2.html as a start.
> Would prefer something PCI based and Hauppauge.

I don't think that's actually a DVB-T2 receiever.
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justin0hornsby at gmail

Nov 18, 2009, 4:29 AM

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Re: Freeview HD in UK in 6mths? [In reply to]

Seen as there's not even the faintest whiff of DVB-T2 tuners for PCs
(PCIe, PCI or even USB) I think even dreaming about using it with
MythTV is unrealistic.

The public won't even see a DVB-T2 set top box until 'early 2010', so
PC based tuners.. with working linux drivers .. in six months? Nope.
I won't be holding my breath..

Regards,
Justin
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mythtv at mikeholden

Nov 18, 2009, 5:54 AM

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Re: Freeview HD in UK in 6mths? [In reply to]

James Stembridge wrote:
> 2009/11/18 <mythtvusers [at] markgarland>:
>> Someone pointed out
>> http://www.leconcepts.com/products/vivanco-dvb-t2-2.html as a start.
>> Would prefer something PCI based and Hauppauge.
>
> I don't think that's actually a DVB-T2 receiever.

Correct. It's a DVB-T with an unfortunate choice of product name!
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anothersname at googlemail

Nov 18, 2009, 6:17 AM

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Re: Freeview HD in UK in 6mths? [In reply to]

2009/11/18 Mike Holden <mythtv [at] mikeholden>:
> James Stembridge wrote:
>> 2009/11/18  <mythtvusers [at] markgarland>:
>>> Someone pointed out
>>> http://www.leconcepts.com/products/vivanco-dvb-t2-2.html as a start.
>>> Would prefer something PCI based and Hauppauge.
>>
>> I don't think that's actually a DVB-T2 receiever.
>
> Correct. It's a DVB-T with an unfortunate choice of product name!
> --
> Mike Holden
>
> http://www.by-ang.com - the place to shop
> for all manner of hand crafted items,
> including Jewellery, Greetings Cards and Gifts
>
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Unfortunate....or misleading (Is it a Murdoch product?)
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richard.e.morton at gmail

Nov 18, 2009, 10:38 AM

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Re: Freeview HD in UK in 6mths? [In reply to]

darn, Hampshire the most populous county has to wait until 2012...

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gregcope at gmail

Nov 18, 2009, 11:14 AM

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Re: Freeview HD in UK in 6mths? [In reply to]

As do most of the home counties (Surrey, E/W Sussex, Kent).

:-(

At least DVB-T2 devices will be cheap by then!


2009/11/18 Richard Morton <richard.e.morton [at] gmail>

> darn, Hampshire the most populous county has to wait until 2012...
>
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anothersname at googlemail

Nov 18, 2009, 2:50 PM

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Re: Freeview HD in UK in 6mths? [In reply to]

2009/11/18 Greg Cope <gregcope [at] gmail>:
> As do most of the home counties (Surrey, E/W Sussex, Kent).
>
> :-(
>
> At least DVB-T2 devices will be cheap by then!
>
>
> 2009/11/18 Richard Morton <richard.e.morton [at] gmail>
>>
>> darn, Hampshire the most populous county has to wait until 2012...
>>
>> R
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Greg you think anyone 'up North can afford to buy T2 kit?






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richard.e.morton at gmail

Nov 18, 2009, 3:15 PM

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Re: Freeview HD in UK in 6mths? [In reply to]

can anyone afford DVB-T2 gear at the moment?

Have only seen one reasonably priced card so far and that is a) still
expensive and b) windows only.
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nick.rout at gmail

Nov 18, 2009, 7:10 PM

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Re: Freeview HD in UK in 6mths? [In reply to]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Richard Morton
<richard.e.morton [at] gmail> wrote:
> can anyone afford DVB-T2 gear at the moment?
>
> Have only seen one reasonably priced card so far and that is a) still
> expensive and b) windows only.

I think DVB-T2 has only just been ratified as a standard (if at all).

Strictly T2 is not needed for HD, Freeview in NZ operates HD over
DVB-T. However if Freeview UK has chosen to use T2 its going to be a
period of pain while cards and drivers become available.

I suspect the open source programmers will be on to it as soon as they
can. DVB-S2 drivers work already.
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dlknight at sdf

Nov 19, 2009, 6:51 AM

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Re: Freeview HD in UK in 6mths? [In reply to]

On Wed, November 18, 2009 10:50 pm, Another Sillyname wrote:
> 2009/11/18 Greg Cope <gregcope [at] gmail>:
>> As do most of the home counties (Surrey, E/W Sussex, Kent).
>>
>> :-(
>>
>> At least DVB-T2 devices will be cheap by then!
>>
>>
>> 2009/11/18 Richard Morton <richard.e.morton [at] gmail>
>>>
>>> darn, Hampshire the most populous county has to wait until 2012...
>>>
>>> R
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>
> Greg you think anyone 'up North can afford to buy T2 kit?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'll get my coat......
>
>

:) I'm receiving from Malvern (repeater of Sutton Coldfield I believe) so
no DVB-T2 until sometime in 2011 :(


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