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lifter89 at comcast

Nov 11, 2009, 1:21 PM

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Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22

In 0.21 I used to be able to press the right arrow and choose "Delete"
from the menu. I know that another thread mentioned how the right arrow
doesn't bring up the menu any more and the Menu key does. But when I do
that, I can't delete it. The menu that comes up says:

Recording List Menu
Change Group Filter
Change Group View
Change Group Password
Add this recording to Playlist
Help (Status Icons)

Outside of deleting the recording from Mythweb, how I do delete a
recording in 0.22?

Thanks,
Harry

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Nov 11, 2009, 1:23 PM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast> wrote:
> In 0.21 I used to be able to press the right arrow and choose "Delete" from
> the menu. I know that another thread mentioned how the right arrow doesn't
> bring up the menu any more and the Menu key does. But when I do that, I
> can't delete it. The menu that comes up says:
>
> Recording List Menu
> Change Group Filter
> Change Group View
> Change Group Password
> Add this recording to Playlist
> Help (Status Icons)
>
> Outside of deleting the recording from Mythweb, how I do delete a recording
> in 0.22?
>
> Thanks,
> Harry

That's the MENU binding Menu. You want the INFO binding menu.

Yes, I know. We're working on it.

Robert
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jarpublic at gmail

Nov 11, 2009, 1:23 PM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

> In 0.21 I used to be able to press the right arrow and choose "Delete" from
> the menu. I know that another thread mentioned how the right arrow doesn't
> bring up the menu any more and the Menu key does. But when I do that, I
> can't delete it. The menu that comes up says:

Asked/answered/discussed multiple times in the last few weeks. Search
the archives. Short answer hit 'I' for the info menu.
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lifter89 at comcast

Nov 11, 2009, 1:33 PM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

Robert McNamara wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast> wrote:
>
>> In 0.21 I used to be able to press the right arrow and choose "Delete" from
>> the menu. I know that another thread mentioned how the right arrow doesn't
>> bring up the menu any more and the Menu key does. But when I do that, I
>> can't delete it. The menu that comes up says:
>>
>> Recording List Menu
>> Change Group Filter
>> Change Group View
>> Change Group Password
>> Add this recording to Playlist
>> Help (Status Icons)
>>
>> Outside of deleting the recording from Mythweb, how I do delete a recording
>> in 0.22?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Harry
>>
>
> That's the MENU binding Menu. You want the INFO binding menu.
>
> Yes, I know. We're working on it.
>
> Robert
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Got it. Not a problem. Just out of curiosity, would you know how I
could map the Info button on my remote? I have a Harmony 550 emulating
a Hauppauge 350. I have the following for the Menu key and it works,
but I don't have anything for Info.

begin
remote = Hauppauge_350
prog = mythtv
button = Menu/i
repeat = 3
config = M
end

Can I just change Menu/i to Info and config to I and restart lirc?

Thanks,
Harry

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Nov 11, 2009, 1:35 PM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast> wrote:
> Robert McNamara wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In 0.21 I used to be able to press the right arrow and choose "Delete"
>>> from
>>> the menu. I know that another thread mentioned how the right arrow
>>> doesn't
>>> bring up the menu any more and the Menu key does. But when I do that, I
>>> can't delete it. The menu that comes up says:
>>>
>>> Recording List Menu
>>> Change Group Filter
>>> Change Group View
>>> Change Group Password
>>> Add this recording to Playlist
>>> Help (Status Icons)
>>>
>>> Outside of deleting the recording from Mythweb, how I do delete a
>>> recording
>>> in 0.22?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Harry
>>>
>>
>> That's the MENU binding Menu. You want the INFO binding menu.
>>
>> Yes, I know. We're working on it.
>>
>> Robert
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>
> Got it. Not a problem. Just out of curiosity, would you know how I could
> map the Info button on my remote? I have a Harmony 550 emulating a
> Hauppauge 350. I have the following for the Menu key and it works, but I
> don't have anything for Info.
>
> begin
> remote = Hauppauge_350
> prog = mythtv
> button = Menu/i
> repeat = 3
> config = M
> end
>
>
> Can I just change Menu/i to Info and config to I and restart lirc?

In this case you would only change the config = M to config = I.
Menu/i is the button name from your lircd.conf. You might want to
have both menus bound, but that's up to you.

Robert
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Nov 11, 2009, 1:38 PM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

> begin
> remote = Hauppauge_350
> prog = mythtv
> button = Menu/i
> repeat = 3
> config = M
> end
>
>
> Can I just change Menu/i to Info and config to I and restart lirc?
>
> Thanks,
> Harry
>

button refers to the button in your lircd.conf. so if you have an INFO
defined in there and set config to i it should bring up the info in
mythtv.
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jarpublic at gmail

Nov 11, 2009, 1:45 PM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

> In this case you would only change the config = M to config = I.
> Menu/i is the button name from your lircd.conf. You might want to
> have both menus bound, but that's up to you.

Yeah you might want the normal menu, (e.g. to get metadata/fanart in
mythvideo, etc). On my real Hauppauge I had:

begin
remote = Hauppauge_350
prog = mythtv
button = Go
repeat = 0
config = I
end

Also another option is to switch your Harmony over to a media center
edition remote. They have menu and info buttons and I prefer them to
the hauppauge remote for mythtv use.
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lifter89 at comcast

Nov 11, 2009, 2:42 PM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

Jake wrote:
>> begin
>> remote = Hauppauge_350
>> prog = mythtv
>> button = Menu/i
>> repeat = 3
>> config = M
>> end
>>
>>
>> Can I just change Menu/i to Info and config to I and restart lirc?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Harry
>>
>>
>
> button refers to the button in your lircd.conf. so if you have an INFO
> defined in there and set config to i it should bring up the info in
> mythtv.
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Thanks for the advice. I ran irw and found out the the Info key on my
remote came across as Asterix. I added the button to my mythtv file to
press "I" and restarted the lirc daemon and its all good now.

Thanks again,
Harry

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:45 AM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

On Wed, November 11, 2009 9:21 pm, Harry Devine wrote:
> In 0.21 I used to be able to press the right arrow and choose "Delete"
> from the menu. I know that another thread mentioned how the right arrow
> doesn't bring up the menu any more and the Menu key does. But when I do
> that, I can't delete it. The menu that comes up says:
>
> Recording List Menu
> Change Group Filter
> Change Group View
> Change Group Password
> Add this recording to Playlist
> Help (Status Icons)
>
> Outside of deleting the recording from Mythweb, how I do delete a
> recording in 0.22?

You could map a button on your remote to "D" (for delete).

Robert.

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ramses at smeyers

Nov 12, 2009, 1:04 AM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

Hi,

>> In 0.21 I used to be able to press the right arrow and choose "Delete"
>> from the menu. I know that another thread mentioned how the right arrow
>> doesn't bring up the menu any more and the Menu key does. But when I do
>> that, I can't delete it. The menu that comes up says:
>>
>> Recording List Menu
>> Change Group Filter
>> Change Group View
>> Change Group Password
>> Add this recording to Playlist
>> Help (Status Icons)
>>
>> Outside of deleting the recording from Mythweb, how I do delete a
>> recording in 0.22?
>
> You could map a button on your remote to "D" (for delete).

I also find this very annoying. I'm in favour of adding this back to the
menu which appears when pressing 'menu'.

regards,
Ramses

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Nov 12, 2009, 6:10 AM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Robert McNamara
<robert.mcnamara [at] gmail> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast> wrote:
>> In 0.21 I used to be able to press the right arrow and choose "Delete" from
>> the menu. I know that another thread mentioned how the right arrow doesn't
>> bring up the menu any more and the Menu key does. But when I do that, I
>> can't delete it. The menu that comes up says:
>>
>> Recording List Menu
>> Change Group Filter
>> Change Group View
>> Change Group Password
>> Add this recording to Playlist
>> Help (Status Icons)
>>
>> Outside of deleting the recording from Mythweb, how I do delete a recording
>> in 0.22?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Harry
>
> That's the MENU binding Menu. You want the INFO binding menu.
>
> Yes, I know. We're working on it.
>
> Robert

By that, do you mean working on combining the menus? We've always
used the right arrow for the info menu. I use a Tivo remote which I
really like, but it doesn't have a ton of buttons. I already have one
mapped to 'm' but none to 'i', so I'd have to sacrifice something else
to add "i".

Tom
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Nov 12, 2009, 6:36 AM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Ramses Smeyers <ramses [at] smeyers> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> In 0.21 I used to be able to press the right arrow and choose "Delete"
>>> from the menu. I know that another thread mentioned how the right arrow
>>> doesn't bring up the menu any more and the Menu key does. But when I do
>>> that, I can't delete it. The menu that comes up says:
>>>
>>> Recording List Menu
>>> Change Group Filter
>>> Change Group View
>>> Change Group Password
>>> Add this recording to Playlist
>>> Help (Status Icons)
>>>
>>> Outside of deleting the recording from Mythweb, how I do delete a
>>> recording in 0.22?
>>>
>>
>> You could map a button on your remote to "D" (for delete).
>>
>
> I also find this very annoying. I'm in favour of adding this back to the
> menu which appears when pressing 'menu'.
>

Just FYI, it was never on the "M" menu AFAIK. It has always been an option
on the "I" INFO menu that has been around for many releases. The notable
changes was that left/right navigation no longer brings up the INFO menu in
order to allow left/right scrolling in new themes.

Kevin

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:51 AM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

On 11/12/2009 09:10 AM, Tom Dexter wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Robert McNamara wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Harry Devine wrote:
>>
>>> In 0.21 I used to be able to press the right arrow and choose "Delete" from
>>> the menu. I know that another thread mentioned how the right arrow doesn't
>>> bring up the menu any more and the Menu key does. But when I do that, I
>>> can't delete it. The menu that comes up says:
>>>
>>> Recording List Menu
>>> Change Group Filter
>>> Change Group View
>>> Change Group Password
>>> Add this recording to Playlist
>>> Help (Status Icons)
>>>
>>> Outside of deleting the recording from Mythweb, how I do delete a recording
>>> in 0.22?
>> That's the MENU binding Menu. You want the INFO binding menu.
>>
>> Yes, I know. We're working on it.
> By that, do you mean working on combining the menus? We've always
> used the right arrow for the info menu. I use a Tivo remote which I
> really like, but it doesn't have a ton of buttons. I already have one
> mapped to 'm' but none to 'i', so I'd have to sacrifice something else
> to add "i".

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6814

Mike
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Nov 13, 2009, 8:22 AM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Michael T. Dean
<mtdean [at] thirdcontact> wrote:
> On 11/12/2009 09:10 AM, Tom Dexter wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Robert McNamara wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Harry Devine wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In 0.21 I used to be able to press the right arrow and choose "Delete"
>>>> from
>>>> the menu. I know that another thread mentioned how the right arrow
>>>> doesn't
>>>> bring up the menu any more and the Menu key does. But when I do that, I
>>>> can't delete it. The menu that comes up says:
>>>>
>>>> Recording List Menu
>>>> Change Group Filter
>>>> Change Group View
>>>> Change Group Password
>>>> Add this recording to Playlist
>>>> Help (Status Icons)
>>>>
>>>> Outside of deleting the recording from Mythweb, how I do delete a
>>>> recording
>>>> in 0.22?
>>>
>>> That's the MENU binding Menu. You want the INFO binding menu.
>>>
>>> Yes, I know. We're working on it.
>>
>> By that, do you mean working on combining the menus? We've always
>> used the right arrow for the info menu. I use a Tivo remote which I
>> really like, but it doesn't have a ton of buttons. I already have one
>> mapped to 'm' but none to 'i', so I'd have to sacrifice something else
>> to add "i".
>
> http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6814
>
> Mike
>

Thanks Mike...I may install that patch when I update. One question:
When that refers to the "recording options" menu, I assume that's the
menu I get in 0.21 with the right arrow (with the play, delete,
storage options etc) correct? In 0.21 the menu doesn't show a title
so it wasn't unclear.

The other thing that confused me a little there is the statement about
adding the ability to mark and unmark items in the playlist as
watched. Is that ability not in the recording options screen as it
was in 0.21 without the patch?

Thanks!
Tom
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Nov 13, 2009, 8:28 AM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

On 11/13/2009 11:22 AM, Tom Dexter wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>
>> http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6814
> Thanks Mike...I may install that patch when I update. One question:
> When that refers to the "recording options" menu, I assume that's the
> menu I get in 0.21 with the right arrow (with the play, delete,
> storage options etc) correct? In 0.21 the menu doesn't show a title
> so it wasn't unclear.
>

Yeah. It means the Action popup, which you currently get when hitting INFO.

> The other thing that confused me a little there is the statement about
> adding the ability to mark and unmark items in the playlist as
> watched. Is that ability not in the recording options screen as it
> was in 0.21 without the patch?

That means after adding a bunch of recordings to a playlist, you can do
MENU|Playlist Options|Mark as watched type thing to mark them all as
watched.

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Nov 15, 2009, 12:59 PM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Ramses Smeyers <ramses [at] smeyers> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>>> In 0.21 I used to be able to press the right arrow and choose "Delete"
>>> from the menu. I know that another thread mentioned how the right arrow
>>> doesn't bring up the menu any more and the Menu key does. But when I do
>>> that, I can't delete it. The menu that comes up says:
>>>
>>> Recording List Menu
>>> Change Group Filter
>>> Change Group View
>>> Change Group Password
>>> Add this recording to Playlist
>>> Help (Status Icons)
>>>
>>> Outside of deleting the recording from Mythweb, how I do delete a
>>> recording in 0.22?
>>
>> You could map a button on your remote to "D" (for delete).
>
> I also find this very annoying. I'm in favour of adding this back to the
> menu which appears when pressing 'menu'.

I prefer the older "Watch Recordings" behavior too. In 0.21, I could
press Enter to start playback, or right arrow to get the menu for more
options. Since these actions covered 99% of my typical usage,
accessing this from the main key cluster (arrows+enter) was very
efficient.

Now, in 0.22 I need to incorporate a new and seldom used key into the
most frequent navigation process. The current behavior makes the
right arrow a duplicate of the left arrow, it switches selection over
to the category list. I don't see what the motivation for changing
the behavior was.

There was mention of a patch in this thread, but the description I
read didn't sound like it restored the old behavior. Is that correct?
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Nov 15, 2009, 6:42 PM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

> Now, in 0.22 I need to incorporate a new and seldom used key into the
> most frequent navigation process. The current behavior makes the
> right arrow a duplicate of the left arrow, it switches selection over
> to the category list. I don't see what the motivation for changing
> the behavior was.

The old UI only had vertical scrolling. The new UI allows themes to
arrange things in arbitrary ways. So assigning the right arrow to a
menu would limit what themes can do.
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Nov 15, 2009, 9:30 PM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Johnny <jarpublic [at] gmail> wrote:
>> Now, in 0.22 I need to incorporate a new and seldom used key into the
>> most frequent navigation process. The current behavior makes the
>> right arrow a duplicate of the left arrow, it switches selection over
>> to the category list. I don't see what the motivation for changing
>> the behavior was.
>
> The old UI only had vertical scrolling. The new UI allows themes to
> arrange things in arbitrary ways. So assigning the right arrow to a
> menu would limit what themes can do.

Okay, that makes sense.
I guess it would be ideal to have different behavior based on mode / screen.
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Nov 16, 2009, 12:38 PM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

Hi all,

For the record, this has caught me out too!
Good job this thread exists - I thought I was going mad.

> >> Now, in 0.22 I need to incorporate a new and seldom used key into the
> >> most frequent navigation process.

This sums up my thoughts on this too.
On my Hauppauge remote, the "i" for info is the same as the menu button, so
I'm gonna have to rob some functionality from somewhere else - perhaps I'll
take over a coloured button... :-(

MG

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Nov 16, 2009, 12:52 PM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

>
> This sums up my thoughts on this too.
> On my Hauppauge remote, the "i" for info is the same as the menu button, so
> I'm gonna have to rob some functionality from somewhere else - perhaps I'll
> take over a coloured button... :-(
>
> MG
>

Hm, my Harmony is set up to mimic an MCE remote and by default the Info
button was mapped to lirc's "MORE" and the Menu button mapped to
"DVD". Are you using a different Harmony profile?

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Nov 16, 2009, 12:55 PM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

>
> >
> > This sums up my thoughts on this too.
> > On my Hauppauge remote, the "i" for info is the same as the menu button, so
> > I'm gonna have to rob some functionality from somewhere else - perhaps I'll
> > take over a coloured button... :-(
> >
> > MG
> >
>
> Hm, my Harmony is set up to mimic an MCE remote and by default the Info
> button was mapped to lirc's "MORE" and the Menu button mapped to
> "DVD". Are you using a different Harmony profile?
>
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Duh, disregard my message, I seem to be having a problem reading words
correctly. Hauppage, not Harmony....
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Nov 16, 2009, 1:07 PM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

Hi Pete,

> > Hm, my Harmony is set up to mimic an MCE remote and by default the Info
> > button was mapped to lirc's "MORE" and the Menu button mapped to
> > "DVD". Are you using a different Harmony profile?

My Hauppauge is whatever came with the Nova-t 500 I have.

Take a look at:
http://img.hexus.net/v2/lifestyle/news/hauppauge/wintv_nova-t_%20500_board_n
_remote_c.jpg

I found that the info key was mapped to "*", the same as a previous poster
on this thread IIRC.

I'm glad I've got a way round, but I still miss my "right option". I'm sure
I'll get used to it.

Thanks,

MG

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Nov 17, 2009, 6:58 AM

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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 3:59 PM, TJ Harris <tjharris [at] weaselworkz> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Ramses Smeyers <ramses [at] smeyers> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>>> In 0.21 I used to be able to press the right arrow and choose "Delete"
>>>> from the menu. I know that another thread mentioned how the right arrow
>>>> doesn't bring up the menu any more and the Menu key does. But when I do
>>>> that, I can't delete it. The menu that comes up says:
>>>>
>>>> Recording List Menu
>>>> Change Group Filter
>>>> Change Group View
>>>> Change Group Password
>>>> Add this recording to Playlist
>>>> Help (Status Icons)
>>>>
>>>> Outside of deleting the recording from Mythweb, how I do delete a
>>>> recording in 0.22?
>>>
>>> You could map a button on your remote to "D" (for delete).
>>
>> I also find this very annoying. I'm in favour of adding this back to the
>> menu which appears when pressing 'menu'.
>
> I prefer the older "Watch Recordings" behavior too. In 0.21, I could
> press Enter to start playback, or right arrow to get the menu for more
> options. Since these actions covered 99% of my typical usage,
> accessing this from the main key cluster (arrows+enter) was very
> efficient.
>
<snip>

I haven't upgraded yet. I see you mention hitting enter to play in
the watched recordings screen. Does the space character still play
the highlighted watch recordings in watch recordings screen?

Tom
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Re: Delete recordings from "Watch Recordings" in 0.22 [In reply to]

Tom Dexter <digitalaudiorock [at] gmail> says:
> I haven't upgraded yet. I see you mention hitting enter to play in
> the watched recordings screen. Does the space character still play
> the highlighted watch recordings in watch recordings screen?

Yes; SELECT still works.

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