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william_munson at comcast

Nov 3, 2009, 1:47 PM

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WANTED: A patch to restore the right arrow menu

I am looking for a patch to restore the right arrow key menu in the
recordings screen. I will happily kill the horizontal menu themes since
I only use mythbuntu or another standard theme. This lack of feature is
killing this version with me, the wife and my friends who use mythtv.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

William

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mtdean at thirdcontact

Nov 3, 2009, 2:03 PM

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Re: WANTED: A patch to restore the right arrow menu [In reply to]

On 11/03/2009 04:47 PM, William wrote:
> I am looking for a patch to restore the right arrow key menu in the
> recordings screen. I will happily kill the horizontal menu themes
> since I only use mythbuntu or another standard theme. This lack of
> feature is killing this version with me, the wife and my friends who
> use mythtv. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You really have a remote that can't handle the basic minimum buttons
necessary for a useful DVR?

Left
Right
Up
Down
SELECT (Space/Enter)
MENU (M)
INFO (I)

Mike
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stef.coene at docum

Nov 3, 2009, 2:17 PM

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Re: WANTED: A patch to restore the right arrow menu [In reply to]

On Tuesday 03 November 2009, Michael T. Dean wrote:
> On 11/03/2009 04:47 PM, William wrote:
> > I am looking for a patch to restore the right arrow key menu in the
> > recordings screen. I will happily kill the horizontal menu themes
> > since I only use mythbuntu or another standard theme. This lack of
> > feature is killing this version with me, the wife and my friends who
> > use mythtv. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> You really have a remote that can't handle the basic minimum buttons
> necessary for a useful DVR?
I do have a remote with the basic buttons (in fact I have a harmony one so I
can program any button I want), but I also miss this 'feature'.
It's not logically to me that pushing the right button rotates between the
left and right list.

Stef
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william_munson at comcast

Nov 3, 2009, 2:39 PM

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Re: WANTED: A patch to restore the right arrow menu [In reply to]

Michael T. Dean wrote:
> On 11/03/2009 04:47 PM, William wrote:
>> I am looking for a patch to restore the right arrow key menu in the
>> recordings screen. I will happily kill the horizontal menu themes
>> since I only use mythbuntu or another standard theme. This lack of
>> feature is killing this version with me, the wife and my friends who
>> use mythtv. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> You really have a remote that can't handle the basic minimum buttons
> necessary for a useful DVR?
>
> Left
> Right
> Up
> Down
> SELECT (Space/Enter)
> MENU (M)
> INFO (I)
>
> Mike
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>
Of course the remote can be bound to those buttons but then I would have
to unbind something else, not myth related like the blueray player menu.
This is what is bound to the info key right now. I suppose I can retrain
my family and redo the layout of the remote to have more than one device
page configured but right now, we can control everything without having
to push separate device buttons to control the various parts of the
entertainment system. This is why I desire to get back the right arrow
menu function back and the extremely low WAF right now. I know that my
needs are very niche and that less than 1% of the users here need the
feature so I am willing to do all the heavy lifting myself.

William
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david at functionalchaos

Nov 4, 2009, 10:17 AM

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Re: WANTED: A patch to restore the right arrow menu [In reply to]

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:39:12 -0500, William <william_munson [at] comcast>
wrote:
> Michael T. Dean wrote:
>> On 11/03/2009 04:47 PM, William wrote:
>>> I am looking for a patch to restore the right arrow key menu in the
>>> recordings screen. I will happily kill the horizontal menu themes
>>> since I only use mythbuntu or another standard theme. This lack of
>>> feature is killing this version with me, the wife and my friends who
>>> use mythtv. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> You really have a remote that can't handle the basic minimum buttons
>> necessary for a useful DVR?
>>
>> Left
>> Right
>> Up
>> Down
>> SELECT (Space/Enter)
>> MENU (M)
>> INFO (I)
>>
>> Mike
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>> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
>> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>>
> Of course the remote can be bound to those buttons but then I would have

> to unbind something else, not myth related like the blueray player menu.

> This is what is bound to the info key right now. I suppose I can retrain

> my family and redo the layout of the remote to have more than one device

> page configured but right now, we can control everything without having
> to push separate device buttons to control the various parts of the
> entertainment system. This is why I desire to get back the right arrow
> menu function back and the extremely low WAF right now. I know that my
> needs are very niche and that less than 1% of the users here need the
> feature so I am willing to do all the heavy lifting myself.
>
>
> William

I love your idea of "Heavy Lifting". I wish that it worked around my
office.

David

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ryan.goat at gmail

Nov 4, 2009, 12:22 PM

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Re: WANTED: A patch to restore the right arrow menu [In reply to]

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:39 PM, William <william_munson [at] comcast> wrote:
> right now, we can control everything without having to push separate
> device�buttons to control the various parts of the entertainment system.
>
> William

You are free to setup your system however you like, but that sounds
horribly confusing and non-intuitive to me. Having multiple peered
components controlled through a single device setting on a single
remote means your family has to remember which buttons work with the
DVD player and which other buttons work with MythTV and which other
buttons with with the TV and which other buttons work with the
receiver and so on and so forth. Wouldn't it be easier if you mapped
ALL the relevant MythTV buttons (and only MythTV buttons) as a single
device on the remote. Then do the same for all the other components.

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ron at ronfrazier

Nov 5, 2009, 5:23 AM

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Re: WANTED: A patch to restore the right arrow menu [In reply to]

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:47 PM, William <william_munson [at] comcast> wrote:
> I am looking for a patch to restore the right arrow key menu in the
> recordings screen. I will happily kill the horizontal menu themes since I
> only use mythbuntu or another standard theme. This lack of feature is
> killing this version with me, the wife and my friends who use mythtv.
> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, I'm still on 0.21-fixes, so I haven't experimented with the new
stuff yet. However, by looking at screenshots, it seems that the Watch
Recordings arrangement hasn't changed too drastically. It just seems
like instead of having your groupings on the left and recordings on
the right (which scroll by up/down keys), you now have your groups on
the top and recordings below, and you scroll with left right. Unless
there is more flexibility which some other themes may utilize (and I'm
just not seeing it in the screenshots), it seems the functionality
could have been setup to allow "down" to behave the same way "right"
did if you happen to be on a horizontal layout instead. But of course
maybe that's not possible for a variety of reasons (and as a
programmer, I know how much I hate it when people say "you could have
just done this instead" when they don't understand all the design
decisions involved), so I'm just throwing it out there in case it was
something overlooked.

Alternatively (and it would be a bit late to get this in for 0.22),
would it be possible to make it so the UI designer can specify things
like "pressing RIGHT in this listbox will trigger this event", so that
vertical themes could have this menu pop up with the right key (like
the 0.21 behavior) and horizontal themes could map it to DOWN, and
(assuming they exist) themes with more complex designs which would
accommodate neither option could just disregard the option and require
you to have a button explicitly mapped to access that function?

But I'm with you on missing this functionality. My preferred remote
actually has a single key for menu/info, and since I generally don't
use menus I find it more useful to map the key to act as INFO. Losing
this feature would be annoying to me.

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mtdean at thirdcontact

Nov 5, 2009, 8:38 AM

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Re: WANTED: A patch to restore the right arrow menu [In reply to]

On 11/05/2009 08:23 AM, Ronald Frazier wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:47 PM, William wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a patch to restore the right arrow key menu in the
>> recordings screen. I will happily kill the horizontal menu themes since I
>> only use mythbuntu or another standard theme. This lack of feature is
>> killing this version with me, the wife and my friends who use mythtv.
>> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
> Well, I'm still on 0.21-fixes, so I haven't experimented with the new
> stuff yet. However, by looking at screenshots, it seems that the Watch
> Recordings arrangement hasn't changed too drastically. It just seems
> like instead of having your groupings on the left and recordings on
> the right (which scroll by up/down keys), you now have your groups on
> the top and recordings below, and you scroll with left right.

The layout is 100% determined by the theme. The hope was that how
buttons worked would not be.

The screenshots you've seen just happen to use the opposite layout that
0.21-fixes did because, well, they now can--so it was something new to try.

Mike
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