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peter at plord

Oct 15, 2009, 6:50 AM

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Turning off guide genre text

I've noticed with recent 0.22-trunk/0.22-fixes builds that its not possible to
disable the text genre display. With it turned off or on, I always get the
genre displayed.

Is this a bug ?

Thanks,

Pete
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mtdean at thirdcontact

Oct 15, 2009, 11:27 AM

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Re: Turning off guide genre text [In reply to]

On 10/15/2009 09:50 AM, Peter Lord wrote:
> I've noticed with recent 0.22-trunk/0.22-fixes builds that its not possible to
> disable the text genre display.

This is now controlled by the theme.
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development#The_guidegrid_widget
, specifically <showcategories> .

> With it turned off or on, I always get the
> genre displayed.
>
> Is this a bug ?

The continued existence of the setting is. :) Thanks for finding it.
I'll remove it.

Mike
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steven at openmedia

Nov 1, 2009, 9:17 PM

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Re: Turning off guide genre text [In reply to]

On Fri, October 16, 2009 7:27 am, Michael T. Dean wrote:
> On 10/15/2009 09:50 AM, Peter Lord wrote:
>> I've noticed with recent 0.22-trunk/0.22-fixes builds that its not
>> possible to
>> disable the text genre display.
>
> This is now controlled by the theme.
> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development#The_guidegrid_widget
> , specifically <showcategories> .
>
>> With it turned off or on, I always get the
>> genre displayed.
>>
>> Is this a bug ?
>
> The continued existence of the setting is. :) Thanks for finding it.
> I'll remove it.

So is there any way of disabling the genre text other than editing the
theme. I find that on a CRT display the addition of the genre text makes
the EPG screen "too busy" and prefer the values to be disabled.

Steve


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newbury at mandamus

Nov 2, 2009, 6:45 PM

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Re: Turning off guide genre text [In reply to]

Steven Ellis wrote:
> On Fri, October 16, 2009 7:27 am, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>> On 10/15/2009 09:50 AM, Peter Lord wrote:
>>> I've noticed with recent 0.22-trunk/0.22-fixes builds that its not
>>> possible to
>>> disable the text genre display.
>> This is now controlled by the theme.
>> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development#The_guidegrid_widget
>> , specifically <showcategories> .
>>
>>> With it turned off or on, I always get the
>>> genre displayed.

After setting it to <showcategories<no</showcategories>, try stepping
through the 'Setup' -> Appearance pages. At the end of these particular
pages, the theme is re-loaded (and you are bounced back to the Main
Screen and in your new or old theme. May be you forgot to try that?

>>> Is this a bug ?
>> The continued existence of the setting is. :) Thanks for finding it.
>> I'll remove it.

Please do NOT remove this setting.
Leaving it IN, does no damage.
Removing it forces a particular outcome, which the existance of the
setting in prior versions, suggests is wanted, if not necessary in some
circumstances, especially where screen space is at a premium. The
ability to set the number of channels and number of time slote has
already been removed. Minimalism is nice, but not to the point of
causing problems.

Personally I think it should be *returned* to the Appearance Setup
screens. Although I don't have any problem with grep'ing for, and
editing a few xml files (not knowing exactly which file to edit), there
are lots of users who do not with to or are unable to do so.

And I agree that the screens are far too 'busy' with the genre
displayed. I don't display genre colors or channel icons in order to
keep the screen as 'quiet' as possible.

> So is there any way of disabling the genre text other than editing the
> theme. I find that on a CRT display the addition of the genre text makes
> the EPG screen "too busy" and prefer the values to be disabled.

Agreed.

Geoff

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gull at gull

Nov 3, 2009, 9:55 AM

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Re: Turning off guide genre text [In reply to]

R. G. Newbury wrote:
>>>> Is this a bug ?
>>> The continued existence of the setting is. :) Thanks for finding it.
>>> I'll remove it.
>
> Please do NOT remove this setting.
> Leaving it IN, does no damage.

I think the point was that it doesn't work. Leaving a setting on the
menu that doesn't actually do anything *is* damaging, because it's
confusing to the user.

As a side note, in software that's intended to be easy to use, it really
is best to avoid superfluous options that force the user to make
arbitrary decisions. Joel Spolsky has a great article on this:

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/uibook/chapters/fog0000000059.html

His point about every setting in an "Options" dialog being a record of
an argument the software developers had reminds me a *lot* of Myth. ;)

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mythtv at theseekerr

Nov 3, 2009, 5:09 PM

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Re: Turning off guide genre text [In reply to]

>> > This is now controlled by the theme.
>> > http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development#The_guidegrid_widget
>> > , specifically <showcategories> .
>> >
>> >>   With it turned off or on, I always get the
>> >> genre displayed.
>> >>
>> >> Is this a bug ?
>> >
>> > The continued existence of the setting is.  :)  Thanks for finding it.
>> > I'll remove it.
>>
>> So is there any way of disabling the genre text other than editing the
>> theme. I find that on a CRT display the addition of the genre text makes
>> the EPG screen "too busy" and prefer the values to be disabled.
>>
>> Steve

I too think it should be reverted to a user option.

What's the rationale behind showing it in the first place? Do some
users really have so many channels that they can't recall if "The
Secret Life of the African Wilderbeast" is a documentary or a drama?

Genre colours seem a more elegant way of achieving the same goal.
Implementing both seems redundant.
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mtdean at thirdcontact

Nov 5, 2009, 10:31 PM

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Re: Turning off guide genre text [In reply to]

On 11/03/2009 12:55 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
> R. G. Newbury wrote:
>>>>> Is this a bug ?
>>>> The continued existence of the setting is. :) Thanks for finding it.
>>>> I'll remove it.
>> Please do NOT remove this setting.
>> Leaving it IN, does no damage.
> I think the point was that it doesn't work. Leaving a setting on the
> menu that doesn't actually do anything *is* damaging, because it's
> confusing to the user.

Exactly. It was a switch that wasn't connected to anything--little more
than a placebo for those who didn't realize it did nothing or a source
of confusion for those who did.

Mike
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