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kkuphal at gmail

Oct 8, 2009, 1:42 PM

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Hulu releases Hulu Desktop for Linux

http://www.hulu.com/labs

Might be of interest to some people here


aclose at gmail

Oct 8, 2009, 5:03 PM

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On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Kevin Kuphal <kkuphal [at] gmail> wrote:
> http://www.hulu.com/labs
>
> Might be of interest to some people here

hmm, i wonder when this will be added as a plugin..? ;)

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jedi at mishnet

Oct 8, 2009, 5:20 PM

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On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 07:03:23PM -0500, Andrew Close wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Kevin Kuphal <kkuphal [at] gmail> wrote:
> > http://www.hulu.com/labs
> >
> > Might be of interest to some people here
>
> hmm, i wonder when this will be added as a plugin..? ;)

If it has LIRC support, you could just add it to the menus and
run it that way.
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Oct 8, 2009, 5:46 PM

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Hmmm trying it out but no audio and video is a bit jumpy. Of course
I'm running gentoo and using SPDIF out.... I'll see if I can get any
support on the hulu forum
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Oct 8, 2009, 5:53 PM

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just for reference tried this on my frontend and the experience was
less than spectacular on a sempron 2600+ with 512MB of ram. was
really nice on my backend which is an x2 5400+m with 4GB of ram and is
probably what i'll use to watch hulu from now on. just a fyi, ymmv!
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jarod at wilsonet

Oct 8, 2009, 6:21 PM

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On Oct 8, 2009, at 8:46 PM, freedenizen wrote:

> Hmmm trying it out but no audio and video is a bit jumpy. Of course
> I'm running gentoo and using SPDIF out.... I'll see if I can get any
> support on the hulu forum

Spiffy. Just poked at it a bit, runs reasonably well (albeit not
perfectly full-screen at 1920x1080) on my old Core Duo 1.66 Mac Mini
(under Mac OS X). Will poke at the Linux version a bit later, see what
there is to see there...

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disafan at aim

Oct 8, 2009, 9:00 PM

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> On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 07:03:23PM -0500, Andrew Close wrote:
>
>> > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Kevin Kuphal<kkuphal [at] gmail> wrote:
>>
>>> > > http://www.hulu.com/labs
>>> > >
>>> > > Might be of interest to some people here
>>>
>> >
>> > hmm, i wonder when this will be added as a plugin..?;)
>>
> If it has LIRC support, you could just add it to the menus and
> run it that way.
>

Since the format has changed, under MythTV 0.22, what is the easiest
way/place to add the button in?

Especially since themes under development keep changing which would
cause me to lose that button?
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jarpublic at gmail

Oct 8, 2009, 9:47 PM

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> Spiffy. Just poked at it a bit, runs reasonably well (albeit not perfectly
> full-screen at 1920x1080) on my old Core Duo 1.66 Mac Mini (under Mac OS X).
> Will poke at the Linux version a bit later, see what there is to see
> there...

That is funny because I spent like an hour last night unsuccessfully
trying to get Hulu to work full screen in firefox. There apparently is
some issue with full screen Adobe Flash in Ubuntu 9.04. Hulu Desktop
seems unaffected by it for me. Unlike with firefox, I get great smooth
full screen playback with Hulu Desktop, but I am only at SD
resolutions. Plus as a major bonus I can run the whole thing with my
remote. No need for a keyboard or mouse.

Also I thought I would mention to others who may be running
Ubuntu/Mythbuntu, I did have to go into /etc/init.d/lirc and append
"--release" onto the startup args for lircd. I did it by adding the
following in the build_remote_args section:

REMOTE_ARGS="--release $REMOTE_ARGS"
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knoppmyth at gmail

Oct 8, 2009, 10:00 PM

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It is certainly nice to see this! Those using LinHES and the testing repos.
sudo pacman -Sy huludesktop. You'll then find it via Main Menu > Media
Library > Online Streams.

Regards,

Cecil


hobbes1069 at gmail

Oct 9, 2009, 7:02 AM

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On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Kevin Kuphal <kkuphal [at] gmail> wrote:
> http://www.hulu.com/labs
>
> Might be of interest to some people here

I was pretty pumped about this, but alas, no go. On my F11 64bit
system (w/ 64bit flash) I get a segmentation fault.

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jep at obrien-pifer

Oct 9, 2009, 7:11 AM

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On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 15:42 -0500, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> http://www.hulu.com/labs
>
> Might be of interest to some people here


I tried this too, on opensuse 11.1. I get an error that it can't find
flash, even though flash plugin is installed and I updated .huludesktop
to properly find it: flash_location = /usr/lib/browser-plugins

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jarod at wilsonet

Oct 9, 2009, 7:17 AM

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On Oct 9, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Kevin Kuphal <kkuphal [at] gmail>
> wrote:
>> http://www.hulu.com/labs
>>
>> Might be of interest to some people here
>
> I was pretty pumped about this, but alas, no go. On my F11 64bit
> system (w/ 64bit flash) I get a segmentation fault.

Works for me on my 64-bit F12 laptop w/64-bit flash.

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caldodge at gmail

Oct 9, 2009, 7:21 AM

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On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:11 AM, James Pifer <jep [at] obrien-pifer> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 15:42 -0500, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
>> http://www.hulu.com/labs
>>
>> Might be of interest to some people here
>
>
> I tried this too, on opensuse 11.1. I get an error that it can't find
> flash, even though flash plugin is installed and I updated .huludesktop
> to properly find it: flash_location = /usr/lib/browser-plugins

I think you have to give Hulu the actual filename.

On 64-bit Fedora 11, I configured ~/.huludesktop with
"flash_location=/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so"

It works fine.

Calvin
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chmeredith at gmail

Oct 9, 2009, 7:36 AM

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On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Calvin Dodge <caldodge [at] gmail> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:11 AM, James Pifer <jep [at] obrien-pifer> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 15:42 -0500, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
>>> http://www.hulu.com/labs
>>>
>>> Might be of interest to some people here
>>
>>
>> I tried this too, on opensuse 11.1. I get an error that it can't find
>> flash, even though flash plugin is installed and I updated .huludesktop
>> to properly find it: flash_location = /usr/lib/browser-plugins
>
> I think you have to give Hulu the actual filename.
>
> On 64-bit Fedora 11, I configured ~/.huludesktop with
> "flash_location=/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so"

What we really need is VDPAU in Flash. Everyone needs to visit here:

http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1152

Register and vote the ticket up the priority chain.
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jep at obrien-pifer

Oct 9, 2009, 7:38 AM

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On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 08:21 -0600, Calvin Dodge wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:11 AM, James Pifer <jep [at] obrien-pifer> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 15:42 -0500, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> >> http://www.hulu.com/labs
> >>
> >> Might be of interest to some people here
> >
> >
> > I tried this too, on opensuse 11.1. I get an error that it can't find
> > flash, even though flash plugin is installed and I updated .huludesktop
> > to properly find it: flash_location = /usr/lib/browser-plugins
>
> I think you have to give Hulu the actual filename.
>
> On 64-bit Fedora 11, I configured ~/.huludesktop with
> "flash_location=/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so"
>
> It works fine.


I had tried that as well, same error.

James

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mtdean at thirdcontact

Oct 9, 2009, 9:25 AM

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On 10/09/2009 10:36 AM, Christopher Meredith wrote:
> What we really need is VDPAU in Flash. Everyone needs to visit here:
>

Why VDPAU? *Just* having Xv in flash would be glorious, but
unfortunately, Adobe doesn't want to do color-space conversions.

http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/05/flash_uses_the_gpu.html

* FAQ regarding hardware acceleration: Why doesn't the Flash Player
on Linux user the X video extension (Xv)?
* Answer: Because Xv scales YUV data. Flash Player operates on RGB data.


And, besides, Adobe is already targeting both ATI and Nvidia drivers
with the OpenGL stuff.

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Oct 9, 2009, 9:32 AM

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On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Kevin Kuphal <kkuphal [at] gmail> wrote:

> http://www.hulu.com/labs
>
> Might be of interest to some people here
>


I installed this on my combo backend/frontend box here in my office and am
surprised to say it works relatively well.

My Myth box is Slackware-based, so I used the RPM and ran rpm2tgz on it,
then installpkg... It installed with no issue on Slackware, so that was a
promising first start. It was unable to locate my Flash plugin, but that
was an easy fix just had to put the location into the config file.

Remote didnt work out of the box, had to do some editing of config files and
start lircd with the --r option... but that mostly works now. The
arrows/menu button work at least, tho right now my pause/volume buttons are
not doing anything at all. Not sure if they are supposed to be or not,
still need to dig into that some.

Interesting oddity... After a fresh reboot, if I immediately launch Hulu, I
get no audio. Subsequent re-launches also have no audio. It's only after I
play something in Myth that Hulu then has audio. Not sure what that's all
about. Maybe on reboot my volume is muted, and Myth is activating it? I
dunno, still have to dig into this issue as well.

Playback looks pretty good... slightly "choppy" at times, and there is
definite tearing happening with horizontal panning -- but I expected as
much, I mean, its Flash on Linux afterall :) *cough* ;) My TV 720p, and
content does look pretty good though. Menus are a bit slow to render/react
when there is video playing. AMD X2 5600+. But definitely usable!

I added a menu option to launch this from my Media menu... works great.
Only issue is, when it launches I get a cursor in the middle of the screen
that never goes away. Can't figure out how to fix that, yet... Also, my
screen is blanking after a while. I have DPMS turned off, and no
screensaver running... so not sure why that's happening. I'm sure its
something simple I've overlooked.

Overall, this is promising. Very... very... VERY promising :)
Just my .02... ;)
--Eric


beww at beww

Oct 9, 2009, 9:48 AM

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On Friday 09 October 2009 10:32:31 Eric Holt wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Kevin Kuphal <kkuphal [at] gmail> wrote:
> > http://www.hulu.com/labs
> >
> > Might be of interest to some people here
>
> I installed this on my combo backend/frontend box here in my office and am
> surprised to say it works relatively well.
>
> My Myth box is Slackware-based, so I used the RPM and ran rpm2tgz on it,
> then installpkg... It installed with no issue on Slackware, so that was a
> promising first start. It was unable to locate my Flash plugin, but that
> was an easy fix just had to put the location into the config file.
>
> Remote didnt work out of the box, had to do some editing of config files
> and start lircd with the --r option... but that mostly works now. The
> arrows/menu button work at least, tho right now my pause/volume buttons are
> not doing anything at all. Not sure if they are supposed to be or not,
> still need to dig into that some.
>
> Interesting oddity... After a fresh reboot, if I immediately launch Hulu,
> I get no audio. Subsequent re-launches also have no audio. It's only
> after I play something in Myth that Hulu then has audio. Not sure what
> that's all about. Maybe on reboot my volume is muted, and Myth is
> activating it? I dunno, still have to dig into this issue as well.
>
> Playback looks pretty good... slightly "choppy" at times, and there is
> definite tearing happening with horizontal panning -- but I expected as
> much, I mean, its Flash on Linux afterall :) *cough* ;) My TV 720p, and
> content does look pretty good though. Menus are a bit slow to render/react
> when there is video playing. AMD X2 5600+. But definitely usable!
>
> I added a menu option to launch this from my Media menu... works great.
> Only issue is, when it launches I get a cursor in the middle of the screen
> that never goes away. Can't figure out how to fix that, yet... Also, my
> screen is blanking after a while. I have DPMS turned off, and no
> screensaver running... so not sure why that's happening. I'm sure its
> something simple I've overlooked.
>
> Overall, this is promising. Very... very... VERY promising :)
> Just my .02... ;)

It seems to have potential.

I use something called PlayON to access Hulu and a lot of other online
programming sources. It exports them as a UPnP server.

Having a UPnP renderer/control point in Myth would allow me to access Hulu and
all the other sources PlayON makes available, how would this differ from the
Hulu Desktop?, which would seem to be Hulu only?

The main drawback to PlayON is that it is Windows-only. They say they are
working on (or at least thinking about) Linux support, but I'm not holding my
breath.

A solution that did not involve sending money to Bill Gates would be
wonderful. He seems to have enough as it is.

I'd also like to not have to deal with a plugin or external program for every
online service, something that could access multiple sources would obviously
be a better answer.

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kkuphal at gmail

Oct 9, 2009, 10:07 AM

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On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Brian Wood <beww [at] beww> wrote:

>
> I use something called PlayON to access Hulu and a lot of other online
> programming sources. It exports them as a UPnP server.
>
> Having a UPnP renderer/control point in Myth would allow me to access Hulu
> and
> all the other sources PlayON makes available, how would this differ from
> the
> Hulu Desktop?, which would seem to be Hulu only?
>

Well, the biggest differences are:

1. Vendor supported (Hulu isn't going to care if your PlayOn stops working)
2. Does not require windows or other third party applications

I think that alone (plus supporting a company that supports Linux) would be
reason enough to use it if you watch Hulu content

Kevin


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Oct 9, 2009, 1:23 PM

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For anyone interested, I created a theme image for Hulu that goes along with
the Blootube-wide theme.
Feel free to download it: http://gregms.com/images/hulu-mythtv.png

Used the following to add it into the menu:
<button>
<type>HULU</type>
<text>Hulu</text>
<action>EXEC /usr/bin/huludesktop</action>
</button>

Use the following in the blootube-wide/theme.xml file:
<buttondef name="HULU">
<image>text-blank.png</image>
<watermarkimage>watermark/hulu.png</watermarkimage>
<offset>0,0</offset>
</buttondef>

This is all on MythTV .21. I'm unsure what would change on .22.
Haven't had a chance to really test everything out yet. Though I have
noticed it will freeze part of the time on exiting. I'm unsure why that is.

-Greg Smith


mark at boyum

Oct 9, 2009, 10:06 PM

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----Snip
> I added a menu option to launch this from my Media menu... works great.
> Only issue is, when it launches I get a cursor in the middle of the screen
> that never goes away.  Can't figure out how to fix that, yet...  Also, my
> screen is blanking after a while.  I have DPMS turned off, and no
> screensaver running... so not sure why that's happening.  I'm sure its
> something simple I've overlooked.
----Snip

For the mouse pointer issue there is a program call "unclutter" that
seems to do the trick.
-Mark
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Oct 10, 2009, 9:07 AM

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On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Johnny <jarpublic [at] gmail> wrote:

> Also I thought I would mention to others who may be running
> Ubuntu/Mythbuntu, I did have to go into /etc/init.d/lirc and append
> "--release" onto the startup args for lircd. I did it by adding the
> following in the build_remote_args section:
>
> REMOTE_ARGS="--release $REMOTE_ARGS"
>
>

Looking through my lirc file, I find three instances of REMOTE ARGS. I just
added the --release in front of the third one, but whenever I use the button
on my remote (say down), it keeps repeating that key from within the
program. So in this case, it would bring sound all the way down. But I can't
use any other remote button until I press a key or two on the keyboard. I
then have the ability to use another button on my remote (which it will
continue to run until I press a key or two on the keyboard). Any idea?
REMOTE_ARGS="--device=$REMOTE_DEVICE $REMOTE_ARGS"
REMOTE_ARGS="--driver=$REMOTE_DRIVER $REMOTE_ARGS"
REMOTE_ARGS="--release $REMOTE_ARGS --output=/dev/lircd
--listen"
-Greg Smith
Kansas CIty


jarpublic at gmail

Oct 10, 2009, 9:17 AM

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>             REMOTE_ARGS="--device=$REMOTE_DEVICE $REMOTE_ARGS"
>             REMOTE_ARGS="--driver=$REMOTE_DRIVER $REMOTE_ARGS"
>             REMOTE_ARGS="--release $REMOTE_ARGS --output=/dev/lircd
> --listen"

Those three statements are all in conditional "if" statements. That
means each one is run only under certain conditions. For example the
last line that you edited is only run if you are also using a blaster
with that same remote. You want the "--release" to always be applied
so you don't want it added inside of a conditional statement like
that. I put mine in at the top right after REMOTE_ARGS is defined. I
didn't spend a lot of time looking at the code so there may be some
better way, but this is what I did:

build_remote_args ()
{
local REMOTE_ARGS="$*"

#Required for Hulu Desktop
REMOTE_ARGS="--release $REMOTE_ARGS"
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gregms at gmail

Oct 10, 2009, 9:47 AM

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On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Johnny <jarpublic [at] gmail> wrote:

> > REMOTE_ARGS="--device=$REMOTE_DEVICE $REMOTE_ARGS"
> > REMOTE_ARGS="--driver=$REMOTE_DRIVER $REMOTE_ARGS"
> > REMOTE_ARGS="--release $REMOTE_ARGS --output=/dev/lircd
> > --listen"
>
> Those three statements are all in conditional "if" statements. That
> means each one is run only under certain conditions. For example the
> last line that you edited is only run if you are also using a blaster
> with that same remote. You want the "--release" to always be applied
> so you don't want it added inside of a conditional statement like
> that. I put mine in at the top right after REMOTE_ARGS is defined. I
> didn't spend a lot of time looking at the code so there may be some
> better way, but this is what I did:
>
> build_remote_args ()
> {
> local REMOTE_ARGS="$*"
>
> #Required for Hulu Desktop
> REMOTE_ARGS="--release $REMOTE_ARGS"
> _______________________________________________
>
> Sadly that may still not work in my case. I'm using IRTrans and it isn't
using lirc the way it normally works. I added in that line just after the
local REMOTE ARGS, but it still didn't help.
Is there anything different I should be doing. I don't have any lirc device
running. When I do a ps aux command, I just have:
/usr/sbin/irserver -daemon -pidfile /var/run/irserver.pid -loglevel 2
-logfile /var/log/irserver.log /dev/ttyUSB0

Thanks,
-Greg Smith


jarpublic at gmail

Oct 10, 2009, 11:33 AM

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> Sadly that may still not work in my case. I'm using IRTrans and it isn't
> using lirc the way it normally works. I added in that line just after the
> local REMOTE ARGS, but it still didn't help.
> Is there anything different I should be doing. I don't have any lirc device
> running. When I do a ps aux command, I just have:
> /usr/sbin/irserver -daemon -pidfile /var/run/irserver.pid -loglevel 2
> -logfile /var/log/irserver.log /dev/ttyUSB0

I am not familiar with IRTrans. Hulu only claims to have support for
lirc. So if you aren't even using lircd, I don't know that there is
much you can do. Maybe you should head over to Hulu support and see
what they have to say.
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