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Sep 4, 2009, 8:36 AM

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Setting up remote control from Hauppauge 1600

I don't ever watch live tv but I would like to setup some remote controls on
two of my front-ends just to be able to control the front end. I want to be
able to select the shows, fast forward/rewind pause those types of things.

Do I still need to have lirc setup on the front-end machine? Do I need it
setup on the backends also or will all the setup be done only on the front end
machines?

Thanks,

-Eric

raymond at wagnerrp

Sep 4, 2009, 8:46 AM

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Re: Setting up remote control from Hauppauge 1600 [In reply to]

Eric A. Boney wrote:
> Do I still need to have lirc setup on the front-end machine? Do I need
> it setup on the backends also or will all the setup be done only on
> the front end machines?
The tuner cards are used only by the backend machine. Your IR receiver
and LIRC are used only by the frontend machine. If your frontend is not
a fe/be combo machine, you cannot use the receiver on the 1600 for
obvious reasons.
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Sep 4, 2009, 10:37 AM

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Re: Setting up remote control from Hauppauge 1600 [In reply to]

On Friday 04 September 2009 11:46:43 Raymond Wagner wrote:
> Eric A. Boney wrote:
> > Do I still need to have lirc setup on the front-end machine? Do I need
> > it setup on the backends also or will all the setup be done only on
> > the front end machines?
>
> The tuner cards are used only by the backend machine. Your IR receiver
> and LIRC are used only by the frontend machine. If your frontend is not
> a fe/be combo machine, you cannot use the receiver on the 1600 for
> obvious reasons.
Ok, the machines are not backends at all, just frontends. So what you are
saying is that it isn't possible to put the ir receiver on the frontend and
program it to control just the front end? I am not needing to interact with
the tuner card at all, just the ability to select shows/music/videos,
stop/play etc in those items.

-Eric

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Sep 4, 2009, 11:09 AM

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Re: Setting up remote control from Hauppauge 1600 [In reply to]

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Eric A. Boney <
mailinglists [at] vanhlebarsoftware> wrote:

> On Friday 04 September 2009 11:46:43 Raymond Wagner wrote:
> > Eric A. Boney wrote:
> > > Do I still need to have lirc setup on the front-end machine? Do I need
>

> > ... you cannot use the receiver on the 1600 for
> > obvious reasons.
> Ok, the machines are not backends at all, just frontends. So what you are
> saying is that it isn't possible to put the ir receiver on the frontend and
> program it to control just the front end? I am not needing to interact with
> the tuner card at all, just the ability to select shows/music/videos,
> stop/play etc in those items.
>
>
> -Eric
>

Eric,

You can use the remote control from the 1600 for your frontend, but not the
IR receiver (since it plugs into a special port on the 1600 tuner itself).
So you'll need external IR receivers to each of your frontends.

The easiest solution IMHO is a Microsoft MCE USB remote and receiver set -
which can be purchased somewhat inexpensively nowadays. (~25 or so if you
shop around a bit) (best search term I've found for ebay is "Microsoft
RC6")

OR... If your frontends have serial ports and you're handy with a soldering
iron, you could roll your own IR receiver - just have a look at lirc.org and
the "Supported Hardware" "Homebrew Receivers" "Serial Port Receiver"
section...

J-e-f-f-A

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Sep 4, 2009, 11:17 AM

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Re: Setting up remote control from Hauppauge 1600 [In reply to]

> The easiest solution IMHO is a Microsoft MCE USB remote and receiver set -
> which can be purchased somewhat inexpensively nowadays.� (~25 or so if you
> shop around a bit)� (best search term I've found for ebay is "Microsoft
> RC6")

I went to Best Buy to get a MCE remote when my old ir receiver broke.
I had to talk to a few people and explain multiple times before
somebody even knew what I was talking about. But then the guy in the
computer department reached into a drawer and said, "you mean like
this," and he pulled out a MCE remote from an HP computer. He said
they don't sell them but they had that one left over from one of the
display machines. Then he just gave it to me for free. It almost made
up for all the other crap I have dealt with at Best Buy. The remote
has been great though and I prefer it over the old Hauppauge one that
it was replacing.
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Sep 4, 2009, 11:24 AM

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Re: Setting up remote control from Hauppauge 1600 [In reply to]

On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Johnny wrote:

>> The easiest solution IMHO is a Microsoft MCE USB remote and
>> receiver set -
>> which can be purchased somewhat inexpensively nowadays. (~25 or so
>> if you
>> shop around a bit) (best search term I've found for ebay is
>> "Microsoft
>> RC6")
>
> I went to Best Buy to get a MCE remote when my old ir receiver broke.
> I had to talk to a few people and explain multiple times before
> somebody even knew what I was talking about. But then the guy in the
> computer department reached into a drawer and said, "you mean like
> this," and he pulled out a MCE remote from an HP computer. He said
> they don't sell them but they had that one left over from one of the
> display machines.

The Best Buy near me does sell the pinnacle mce remote kit, which
works with the mceusb lirc driver. Its grossly overpriced though
(can't remember how badly, but it was bad).

> Then he just gave it to me for free. It almost made
> up for all the other crap I have dealt with at Best Buy.

Heh, nice. For those not fortunate enough to get one handed to you buy
Best Buy for free, you're better off ordering one of the kits from
newegg or amazon that run $20-30, or going the eBay route.

> The remote
> has been great though and I prefer it over the old Hauppauge one that
> it was replacing.

Man, I'd certainly hope so. Quite frankly, I think those tiny grey
hauppauge remotes are worthless trash. I don't actually use any of my
mce remotes either (I use a Logitech Harmony 880), but they're
definitely way better than the hauppauge ones.

--
Jarod Wilson
jarod [at] wilsonet

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Sep 4, 2009, 11:29 AM

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Re: Setting up remote control from Hauppauge 1600 [In reply to]

Eric A. Boney wrote:
> On Friday 04 September 2009 11:46:43 Raymond Wagner wrote:
> > Eric A. Boney wrote:
> > > Do I still need to have lirc setup on the front-end machine? Do I need
> > > it setup on the backends also or will all the setup be done only on
> > > the front end machines?
> >
> > The tuner cards are used only by the backend machine. Your IR receiver
> > and LIRC are used only by the frontend machine. If your frontend is not
> > a fe/be combo machine, you cannot use the receiver on the 1600 for
> > obvious reasons.
> Ok, the machines are not backends at all, just frontends. So what you
> are saying is that it isn't possible to put the ir receiver on the
> frontend and program it to control just the front end? I am not
> needing to interact with the tuner card at all, just the ability to
> select shows/music/videos, stop/play etc in those items.

Why do you have a tuner card in a machine not running a backend?

You can run mythbackend and mythfrontend on the same machine. However,
you must have tuners in the backend, IR receivers in the frontend. If
you are not running a frontend on the machine with the 1600, you cannot
use the IR receiver for anything useful.

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Sep 4, 2009, 12:48 PM

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Re: Setting up remote control from Hauppauge 1600 [In reply to]

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Raymond Wagner<raymond [at] wagnerrp> wrote:
...
> Why do you have a tuner card in a machine not running a backend?
>
> You can run mythbackend and mythfrontend on the same machine. �However, you
> must have tuners in the backend, IR receivers in the frontend. �If you are
> not running a frontend on the machine with the 1600, you cannot use the IR
> receiver for anything useful.

If you have a remote with an RF extender then you can have the IR
received on your backend and connect the frontend lirc daemon to the
backend and it will pick up the signals from it.

This is what I do on my laptop that I only use occasionally as a
frontend and it works quite well.

--dejan
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Sep 4, 2009, 12:49 PM

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Re: Setting up remote control from Hauppauge 1600 [In reply to]

Jarod Wilson wrote:
> On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Johnny wrote:
>
>>> The easiest solution IMHO is a Microsoft MCE USB remote and receiver
>>> set -
>>> which can be purchased somewhat inexpensively nowadays. (~25 or so
>>> if you
>>> shop around a bit) (best search term I've found for ebay is "Microsoft
>>> RC6")
>>
>> I went to Best Buy to get a MCE remote when my old ir receiver broke.
>> I had to talk to a few people and explain multiple times before
>> somebody even knew what I was talking about. But then the guy in the
>> computer department reached into a drawer and said, "you mean like
>> this," and he pulled out a MCE remote from an HP computer. He said
>> they don't sell them but they had that one left over from one of the
>> display machines.
>
> The Best Buy near me does sell the pinnacle mce remote kit, which works
> with the mceusb lirc driver. Its grossly overpriced though (can't
> remember how badly, but it was bad).
>
>> Then he just gave it to me for free. It almost made
>> up for all the other crap I have dealt with at Best Buy.
>
> Heh, nice. For those not fortunate enough to get one handed to you buy
> Best Buy for free, you're better off ordering one of the kits from
> newegg or amazon that run $20-30, or going the eBay route.
>
>> The remote
>> has been great though and I prefer it over the old Hauppauge one that
>> it was replacing.
>
> Man, I'd certainly hope so. Quite frankly, I think those tiny grey
> hauppauge remotes are worthless trash. I don't actually use any of my
> mce remotes either (I use a Logitech Harmony 880), but they're
> definitely way better than the hauppauge ones.
>
I picked up an MCE rc6 remote from Amazon for about $20, primarily as
proof-of-concept to see if an rc6 remote could run my particular imon.
It does, so the concept is proven. In the meantime, I've taken the IR
receiver that came with it and put it on another computer that also acts
as a frontend machine. I take the remote to where I'm watching the Myth.

That said, the remote is one of the cheaper ones, because it won't learn
any TV codes. A better MCE remote will learn TV codes so you can at
least turn the thing on and off, maybe adjust the volume. One of these
days I'd like to get a better MCE remote for the myth machine on the
main TV, and put the cheapie downstairs with the computer.

Dale
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