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sonofzev at iinet

Jun 8, 2009, 11:50 PM

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gentoo VDPAU ported ebuilds or alternatives?

Hi All

I've had a system running on Gentoo for a while, but in an effort to consolidate
power usage I am moving my backend to my general home
file-server/firewall/router. Let me know if this is a bad idea first....

I have VDPAU capable cards for my two frontends, but have been waiting patiently
for the 0.22 release of MythTV.

I am not the most patient person so I was wondering about a few alternatives to
make use of VDPAU on my frontend machines.

1. Running Gentoo on my backend with the most current 0.21 ebuild. . Using a
custom ebuild for the patched version (either making my own or using this one
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-731657-highlight-vdpau+mythtv.html)

2. Running Gentoo on my backend with the most current 0.21 ebuild, but using
mythbuntu (or ubuntu normal) with Jean's patched versions of 0.21.

3. Any other alternatives that people might suggest.

Lastly, I could always keep waiting for 0.22 and for it to make it into portage..
if people think that it is getting close (say within 6 months) as my frontend
systems are powerful enough to do fairly good de-interlacing.

cheers

Allan Klinbail

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william_munson at comcast

Jun 9, 2009, 2:48 AM

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Re: gentoo VDPAU ported ebuilds or alternatives? [In reply to]

On 06/09/2009 02:50 AM, sonofzev [at] iinet wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I've had a system running on Gentoo for a while, but in an effort to consolidate
> power usage I am moving my backend to my general home
> file-server/firewall/router. Let me know if this is a bad idea first....
>
> I have VDPAU capable cards for my two frontends, but have been waiting patiently
> for the 0.22 release of MythTV.
>

Thats not going to happen for quite a while. Better look at alternatives.

> I am not the most patient person so I was wondering about a few alternatives to
> make use of VDPAU on my frontend machines.
>
> 1. Running Gentoo on my backend with the most current 0.21 ebuild. . Using a
> custom ebuild for the patched version (either making my own or using this one
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-731657-highlight-vdpau+mythtv.html)
>
> 2. Running Gentoo on my backend with the most current 0.21 ebuild, but using
> mythbuntu (or ubuntu normal) with Jean's patched versions of 0.21.
>

I have had great luck with JYA's ubuntu packages. Its been more stable
than the unpatched code.

> 3. Any other alternatives that people might suggest.
>
> Lastly, I could always keep waiting for 0.22 and for it to make it into portage..
> if people think that it is getting close (say within 6 months) as my frontend
> systems are powerful enough to do fairly good de-interlacing.
>

Even after release, expect a whole bunch of issues as this is a complete
overhaul of the code and is very poorly tested. Before you start flaming
me, poor testing is normal for linux code as there is not a big
MicroSloth style beta program to iron out the bugs. We simply do the
best we can and release code and then fix the stuff that gets reported.

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RobertCL at iname

Jun 9, 2009, 5:37 AM

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Re: gentoo VDPAU ported ebuilds or alternatives? [In reply to]

On Tue, June 9, 2009 7:50 am, sonofzev [at] iinet wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I've had a system running on Gentoo for a while, but in an effort to
> consolidate
> power usage I am moving my backend to my general home
> file-server/firewall/router. Let me know if this is a bad idea first....
>
> I have VDPAU capable cards for my two frontends, but have been waiting
> patiently
> for the 0.22 release of MythTV.
>
> I am not the most patient person so I was wondering about a few
> alternatives to
> make use of VDPAU on my frontend machines.
>
> 1. Running Gentoo on my backend with the most current 0.21 ebuild. . Using
> a
> custom ebuild for the patched version (either making my own or using this
> one
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-731657-highlight-vdpau+mythtv.html)
>
> 2. Running Gentoo on my backend with the most current 0.21 ebuild, but
> using
> mythbuntu (or ubuntu normal) with Jean's patched versions of 0.21.

I'm currently running a Gentoo based 0.21-fixes combined backend and
frontend and I also have a mythbuntu frontend-only using Jean's patched
versions. So I can confirm that this works (if nothing else).

Personally, I'd never considered using mythbuntu until VDPAU came along,
and I was impressed at how quick and easy it was to get a frontend-only
machine up and running. So I'd recommend this approach.

>
> 3. Any other alternatives that people might suggest.
>
> Lastly, I could always keep waiting for 0.22 and for it to make it into
> portage..
> if people think that it is getting close (say within 6 months) as my
> frontend
> systems are powerful enough to do fairly good de-interlacing.
>
> cheers
>
> Allan Klinbail
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Jun 9, 2009, 5:53 AM

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Re: gentoo VDPAU ported ebuilds or alternatives? [In reply to]

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:50 AM,
sonofzev [at] iinet<sonofzev [at] iinet> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> 1. Running Gentoo on my backend with the most current 0.21 ebuild. . Using a
> custom ebuild for the patched version (either making my own or using this one
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-731657-highlight-vdpau+mythtv.html)
>

If I get around to buying a VDPAU capable card I'll be taking that
approach, as I'm already running both my frontend and backend with
patched ebuilds of rev 20500 already. I've always found that very
easy to do. Speaking of which, if anyone knows of a fanless low
profile PCI-e card capable of Advanced 2x de-interlacing, let me know.

I was surprised to see that recent ebuilds in portage no longer pull
from SVN but rather download a tarball from the mirrors. That means
you can no longer rename them to pull in newer revs. The ebuilds I'm
using were copies of older ebuilds that used SVN. I don't know why
they made that change. I think people were griping that emerging was
sometimes failing to pull in from SVN...something that never happened
to me in countless installs.

Tom
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drescherjm at gmail

Jun 9, 2009, 5:55 AM

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Re: gentoo VDPAU ported ebuilds or alternatives? [In reply to]

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:50 AM,
sonofzev [at] iinet<sonofzev [at] iinet> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I've had a system running on Gentoo for a while, but in an effort to consolidate
> power usage I am moving my backend to my general home
> file-server/firewall/router. Let me know if this is a bad idea first....
>
> I have VDPAU capable cards for my two frontends, but have been waiting patiently
> for the 0.22 release of MythTV.
>
> I am not the most patient person so I was wondering about a few alternatives to
> make use of VDPAU on my frontend machines.
>
> 1. Running Gentoo on my backend with the most current 0.21 ebuild. . Using a
> custom ebuild for the patched version (either making my own or using this one
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-731657-highlight-vdpau+mythtv.html)
>
> 2. Running Gentoo on my backend with the most current 0.21 ebuild, but using
> mythbuntu (or ubuntu normal) with Jean's patched versions of 0.21.
>
> 3. Any other alternatives that people might suggest.
>
> Lastly, I could always keep waiting for 0.22 and for it to make it into portage..
> if people think that it is getting close (say within 6 months) as my frontend
> systems are powerful enough to do fairly good de-interlacing.
>
> cheers
>

I have the patches in my gentoo overlay.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259009

I am currently using this on my frontend and it works great.

jmd0 ~ # equery l mythtv
[ Searching for package 'mythtv' in all categories among: ]
* installed packages
[I--] [ ] media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p20549 (0)
[I--] [ ] x11-themes/mythtv-themes-0.21_p20507 (0)

jmd0 ~ # equery uses mythtv
[ Searching for packages matching mythtv... ]
[ Colour Code : set unset ]
[. Legend : Left column (U) - USE flags from make.conf ]
[. : Right column (I) - USE flags packages was installed with ]
[ Found these USE variables for media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p20549 ]
U I
+ + aac : Enables support for MPEG-4 AAC Audio
+ + alsa : Adds support for media-libs/alsa-lib
(Advanced Linux Sound Architecture)
- - altivec : Adds support for optimizations for G4 and
G5/ppc970 processors
- - autostart : Uses a custom autostart configuration
gleened from expierence with MythTV since it's early versions and
discussed with other MythTV maintainers and users. Does not rely on
KDE being installed like most methods do.
- - debug : Enable extra debug codepaths, like asserts
and extra output. If you want to get meaningful backtraces see
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/backtraces.xml
- - directv : Installs the DirecTV channel changing script
so that you can configure MythTV to use it to change the channels on
your DirecTV box.
+ + dvb : Adds support for DVB (Digital Video Broadcasting)
+ + dvd : Adds support for DVDs
+ + fftw : Use FFTW library for computing Fourier transforms
+ + ieee1394 : Enable FireWire/iLink IEEE1394 support (dv,
camera, ...)
- - jack : Adds support for the JACK Audio Connection Kit
- - lcd : Tells MythTV that you have an instance of
app-misc/lcdproc configured on your machine and it should output
information such as current time, show name, episode name, etc to that
LCD.
- - lirc : Adds support for lirc (Linux's Infra-Red
Remote Control)
+ + mmx : Adds support for optimizations for Pentium
MMX and Athlon class processors
+ + opengl : Adds support for OpenGL (3D graphics)
+ + perl : Adds support/bindings for the Perl language
+ + python : Adds support/bindings for the Python language
+ + vdpau : <unknown>
+ + video_cards_nvidia : VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for
nvidia video cards
+ + xvmc : Instructs MythTV to use XvMC for it's video
output. By default, this will use the generic XvMC wrapper unless a
specific video card driver is enabled via their VIDEO_CARDS USE flags.

Installation instructions for my overlay are in the wiki:

http://wiki.github.com/drescherjm/jmdgentoooverlay

then install media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p20549 and also any of its plugins.

John
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sonofzev at iinet

Jun 9, 2009, 2:37 PM

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Re: gentoo VDPAU ported ebuilds or alternatives? [In reply to]

Awesome..

Thankyou. I will try and use these.

On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 08:55 -0400, John Drescher wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:50 AM,
> sonofzev [at] iinet<sonofzev [at] iinet> wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > I've had a system running on Gentoo for a while, but in an effort to consolidate
> > power usage I am moving my backend to my general home
> > file-server/firewall/router. Let me know if this is a bad idea first....
> >
> > I have VDPAU capable cards for my two frontends, but have been waiting patiently
> > for the 0.22 release of MythTV.
> >
> > I am not the most patient person so I was wondering about a few alternatives to
> > make use of VDPAU on my frontend machines.
> >
> > 1. Running Gentoo on my backend with the most current 0.21 ebuild. . Using a
> > custom ebuild for the patched version (either making my own or using this one
> > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-731657-highlight-vdpau+mythtv.html)
> >
> > 2. Running Gentoo on my backend with the most current 0.21 ebuild, but using
> > mythbuntu (or ubuntu normal) with Jean's patched versions of 0.21.
> >
> > 3. Any other alternatives that people might suggest.
> >
> > Lastly, I could always keep waiting for 0.22 and for it to make it into portage..
> > if people think that it is getting close (say within 6 months) as my frontend
> > systems are powerful enough to do fairly good de-interlacing.
> >
> > cheers
> >
>
> I have the patches in my gentoo overlay.
>
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259009
>
>
> I am currently using this on my frontend and it works great.
>
> jmd0 ~ # equery l mythtv
> [ Searching for package 'mythtv' in all categories among: ]
> * installed packages
> [I--] [ ] media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p20549 (0)
> [I--] [ ] x11-themes/mythtv-themes-0.21_p20507 (0)
>
> jmd0 ~ # equery uses mythtv
> [ Searching for packages matching mythtv... ]
> [ Colour Code : set unset ]
> [. Legend : Left column (U) - USE flags from make.conf ]
> [. : Right column (I) - USE flags packages was installed with ]
> [ Found these USE variables for media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p20549 ]
> U I
> + + aac : Enables support for MPEG-4 AAC Audio
> + + alsa : Adds support for media-libs/alsa-lib
> (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture)
> - - altivec : Adds support for optimizations for G4 and
> G5/ppc970 processors
> - - autostart : Uses a custom autostart configuration
> gleened from expierence with MythTV since it's early versions and
> discussed with other MythTV maintainers and users. Does not rely on
> KDE being installed like most methods do.
> - - debug : Enable extra debug codepaths, like asserts
> and extra output. If you want to get meaningful backtraces see
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/backtraces.xml
> - - directv : Installs the DirecTV channel changing script
> so that you can configure MythTV to use it to change the channels on
> your DirecTV box.
> + + dvb : Adds support for DVB (Digital Video Broadcasting)
> + + dvd : Adds support for DVDs
> + + fftw : Use FFTW library for computing Fourier transforms
> + + ieee1394 : Enable FireWire/iLink IEEE1394 support (dv,
> camera, ...)
> - - jack : Adds support for the JACK Audio Connection Kit
> - - lcd : Tells MythTV that you have an instance of
> app-misc/lcdproc configured on your machine and it should output
> information such as current time, show name, episode name, etc to that
> LCD.
> - - lirc : Adds support for lirc (Linux's Infra-Red
> Remote Control)
> + + mmx : Adds support for optimizations for Pentium
> MMX and Athlon class processors
> + + opengl : Adds support for OpenGL (3D graphics)
> + + perl : Adds support/bindings for the Perl language
> + + python : Adds support/bindings for the Python language
> + + vdpau : <unknown>
> + + video_cards_nvidia : VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for
> nvidia video cards
> + + xvmc : Instructs MythTV to use XvMC for it's video
> output. By default, this will use the generic XvMC wrapper unless a
> specific video card driver is enabled via their VIDEO_CARDS USE flags.
>
>
> Installation instructions for my overlay are in the wiki:
>
> http://wiki.github.com/drescherjm/jmdgentoooverlay
>
>
> then install media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p20549 and also any of its plugins.
>
> John

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Jun 9, 2009, 2:41 PM

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Re: gentoo VDPAU ported ebuilds or alternatives? [In reply to]

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:37 PM, allan<sonofzev [at] iinet> wrote:
> Awesome..
>
> Thankyou. I will try and use these.
>

I recommend you do

quickpkg media-tv/mythtv

before you install so you can easily go back to the previous version with

emerge -K mythtv

John
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Jun 9, 2009, 8:21 PM

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Re: gentoo VDPAU ported ebuilds or alternatives? [In reply to]

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:23 PM,
sonofzev [at] iinet<sonofzev [at] iinet> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue Jun �9 17:41 , John Drescher �sent:
>
>>On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:37 PM, allansonofzev [at] iinet> wrote:
>>> Awesome..
>>>
>>> Thankyou. I will try and use these.
>>>
>>

BTW, I have just commited mythtv-0.21_p20658 with the vdpau, hdpvr and
opengl patches to my overlay. This also includes most if not all of
the plugins bumped to 20658 as well.

John
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sonofzev at iinet

Jun 20, 2009, 9:35 PM

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Re: gentoo VDPAU ported ebuilds or alternatives? [In reply to]

On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 07:37 +1000, allan wrote:
> Awesome..
>
> Thankyou. I will try and use these.
>
> On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 08:55 -0400, John Drescher wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:50 AM,
> > sonofzev [at] iinet<sonofzev [at] iinet> wrote:
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > I've had a system running on Gentoo for a while, but in an effort to consolidate
> > > power usage I am moving my backend to my general home
> > > file-server/firewall/router. Let me know if this is a bad idea first....
> > >
> > > I have VDPAU capable cards for my two frontends, but have been waiting patiently
> > > for the 0.22 release of MythTV.
> > >
> > > I am not the most patient person so I was wondering about a few alternatives to
> > > make use of VDPAU on my frontend machines.
> > >
> > > 1. Running Gentoo on my backend with the most current 0.21 ebuild. . Using a
> > > custom ebuild for the patched version (either making my own or using this one
> > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-731657-highlight-vdpau+mythtv.html)
> > >
> > > 2. Running Gentoo on my backend with the most current 0.21 ebuild, but using
> > > mythbuntu (or ubuntu normal) with Jean's patched versions of 0.21.
> > >
> > > 3. Any other alternatives that people might suggest.
> > >
> > > Lastly, I could always keep waiting for 0.22 and for it to make it into portage..
> > > if people think that it is getting close (say within 6 months) as my frontend
> > > systems are powerful enough to do fairly good de-interlacing.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> >
> > I have the patches in my gentoo overlay.
> >
> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259009
> >
> >
> > I am currently using this on my frontend and it works great.
> >
> > jmd0 ~ # equery l mythtv
> > [ Searching for package 'mythtv' in all categories among: ]
> > * installed packages
> > [I--] [ ] media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p20549 (0)
> > [I--] [ ] x11-themes/mythtv-themes-0.21_p20507 (0)
> >
> > jmd0 ~ # equery uses mythtv
> > [ Searching for packages matching mythtv... ]
> > [ Colour Code : set unset ]
> > [. Legend : Left column (U) - USE flags from make.conf ]
> > [. : Right column (I) - USE flags packages was installed with ]
> > [ Found these USE variables for media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p20549 ]
> > U I
> > + + aac : Enables support for MPEG-4 AAC Audio
> > + + alsa : Adds support for media-libs/alsa-lib
> > (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture)
> > - - altivec : Adds support for optimizations for G4 and
> > G5/ppc970 processors
> > - - autostart : Uses a custom autostart configuration
> > gleened from expierence with MythTV since it's early versions and
> > discussed with other MythTV maintainers and users. Does not rely on
> > KDE being installed like most methods do.
> > - - debug : Enable extra debug codepaths, like asserts
> > and extra output. If you want to get meaningful backtraces see
> > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/backtraces.xml
> > - - directv : Installs the DirecTV channel changing script
> > so that you can configure MythTV to use it to change the channels on
> > your DirecTV box.
> > + + dvb : Adds support for DVB (Digital Video Broadcasting)
> > + + dvd : Adds support for DVDs
> > + + fftw : Use FFTW library for computing Fourier transforms
> > + + ieee1394 : Enable FireWire/iLink IEEE1394 support (dv,
> > camera, ...)
> > - - jack : Adds support for the JACK Audio Connection Kit
> > - - lcd : Tells MythTV that you have an instance of
> > app-misc/lcdproc configured on your machine and it should output
> > information such as current time, show name, episode name, etc to that
> > LCD.
> > - - lirc : Adds support for lirc (Linux's Infra-Red
> > Remote Control)
> > + + mmx : Adds support for optimizations for Pentium
> > MMX and Athlon class processors
> > + + opengl : Adds support for OpenGL (3D graphics)
> > + + perl : Adds support/bindings for the Perl language
> > + + python : Adds support/bindings for the Python language
> > + + vdpau : <unknown>
> > + + video_cards_nvidia : VIDEO_CARDS setting to build driver for
> > nvidia video cards
> > + + xvmc : Instructs MythTV to use XvMC for it's video
> > output. By default, this will use the generic XvMC wrapper unless a
> > specific video card driver is enabled via their VIDEO_CARDS USE flags.
> >
> >
> > Installation instructions for my overlay are in the wiki:
> >
> > http://wiki.github.com/drescherjm/jmdgentoooverlay
> >
> >
> > then install media-tv/mythtv-0.21_p20549 and also any of its plugins.
> >
> > John

Hi

I've added your overlay but I still don't get the listing for that
version when I do an emerge -pv mythtv.. I have enabled the ~amd64
keyword or is this masked by **?

Regards

allan

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drescherjm at gmail

Jun 20, 2009, 9:49 PM

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Re: gentoo VDPAU ported ebuilds or alternatives? [In reply to]

> I've added your overlay but I still don't get the listing for that
> version when I do an emerge -pv mythtv.. I have enabled the ~amd64
> keyword or is this masked by **?
>
Its not masked by "**"

can you post the output of

equery l -o mythtv

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Jun 20, 2009, 9:51 PM

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Re: gentoo VDPAU ported ebuilds or alternatives? [In reply to]

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:49 AM, John Drescher<drescherjm [at] gmail> wrote:
>> I've added your overlay but I still don't get the listing for that
>> version when I do an emerge -pv mythtv.. I have enabled the ~amd64
>> keyword or is this masked by **?
>>
> Its not masked by "**"
>
> can you post the output of
>
> equery l -o mythtv
>

Also the output of

layman -l

John
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Jun 20, 2009, 10:35 PM

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Re: gentoo VDPAU ported ebuilds or alternatives? [In reply to]

> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:49 AM, John Drescher<drescherjm [at] gmail>
> wrote:
>>> I've added your overlay but I still don't get the listing for that
>>> version when I do an emerge -pv mythtv.. I have enabled the ~amd64
>>> keyword or is this masked by **?
>>>
>> Its not masked by "**"
>>
>> can you post the output of
>>
>> equery l -o mythtv
>>
>
> Also the output of
>
> layman -l
>
> John
>

Sounds like a crucial line missing from make.conf to me (having just been
through this exercise having not used overlays for a couple of years!!).

--
Robin Gilks

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Jun 21, 2009, 2:01 AM

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Re: gentoo VDPAU ported ebuilds or alternatives? [In reply to]

On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 17:35 +1200, Robin Gilks wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:49 AM, John Drescher<drescherjm [at] gmail>
> > wrote:
> >>> I've added your overlay but I still don't get the listing for that
> >>> version when I do an emerge -pv mythtv.. I have enabled the ~amd64
> >>> keyword or is this masked by **?
> >>>
> >> Its not masked by "**"
> >>
> >> can you post the output of
> >>
> >> equery l -o mythtv
> >>
> >
> > Also the output of
> >
> > layman -l
> >
> > John
> >
>
> Sounds like a crucial line missing from make.conf to me (having just been
> through this exercise having not used overlays for a couple of years!!).
>
>
>

Sorry folks .. missed the source /usr/local/portage/layman/make.conf
line from /etc/make.conf..

silly mistake considering I have pro-audio overlay on my studio
computer...

cheers

Allan

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Jul 3, 2009, 4:24 PM

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Re: gentoo VDPAU ported ebuilds or alternatives? [In reply to]

> BTW, I have just commited mythtv-0.21_p20658 with the vdpau, hdpvr and
> opengl patches to my overlay. This also includes most if not all of
> the plugins bumped to 20658 as well.
>
20744 has been committed to my overlay. On top of the bump I believe
this fixes the USE="-aac" bug.

See:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5847557.html#5847557

John
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