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ajayrockrock at gmail

Jun 30, 2009, 11:55 PM

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myblaster and new dish stb. *sigh*

Hello,

I had an old myblaster and dish box working for several years until dish
told us that we had to upgrade our boxes. Now I'm stuck with a new box,
Dish 381 (I've heard it's a reworked Dish 811) and my old serial MyBlaster.

Has anyone had any luck with the myblaster perl script in getting it to
control newer dish boxes? I've ran the "codesearch.pl" script to try
and find the correct code to get the channels to change but it's not
coming up with anything.

If you've had *any* success with the dish 381, please let me know. I
don't mind dumping the myblaster stuff and just buying another IR
transmitter.

Thanks,
Ajay
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beww at beww

Jul 1, 2009, 6:55 AM

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On Wednesday 01 July 2009 00:55:23 Ajay Sharma wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I had an old myblaster and dish box working for several years until dish
> told us that we had to upgrade our boxes. Now I'm stuck with a new box,
> Dish 381 (I've heard it's a reworked Dish 811) and my old serial MyBlaster.
>
> Has anyone had any luck with the myblaster perl script in getting it to
> control newer dish boxes? I've ran the "codesearch.pl" script to try
> and find the correct code to get the channels to change but it's not
> coming up with anything.
>
> If you've had *any* success with the dish 381, please let me know. I
> don't mind dumping the myblaster stuff and just buying another IR
> transmitter.

I'm using a MyBlaster to control a DISH VIP722, which I still think of
as "new", using code 775.

As you probably know, DISH receivers use the following codes:

0312, 0511, 1005, 0668, 0713, 0775, 0871, 1086, 0167, 0853

IIRC the MyBlaster had some sort of learning capability, though I have never
used it. I find some references to this mode with a quick Google, but no
specific instructions, perhaps you might have better luck.

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greg12866 at nycap

Jul 1, 2009, 7:35 AM

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Re: myblaster and new dish stb. *sigh* [In reply to]

Ajay Sharma wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I had an old myblaster and dish box working for several years until
> dish told us that we had to upgrade our boxes. Now I'm stuck with a
> new box, Dish 381 (I've heard it's a reworked Dish 811) and my old
> serial MyBlaster.
>
> Has anyone had any luck with the myblaster perl script in getting it
> to control newer dish boxes? I've ran the "codesearch.pl" script to
> try and find the correct code to get the channels to change but it's
> not coming up with anything.
> If you've had *any* success with the dish 381, please let me know. I
> don't mind dumping the myblaster stuff and just buying another IR
> transmitter.
>
> Thanks,
> Ajay
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The person who wrote the script,post's to this group..His name is
William Munson,perhaps he would be able to point you in the right
direction....
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ajayrockrock at gmail

Jul 1, 2009, 10:57 AM

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Re: myblaster and new dish stb. *sigh* [In reply to]

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:35 AM, greg <greg12866[at]nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> Ajay Sharma wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I had an old myblaster and dish box working for several years until dish
>> told us that we had to upgrade our boxes. Now I'm stuck with a new box,
>> Dish 381 (I've heard it's a reworked Dish 811) and my old serial MyBlaster.
>>
>> Has anyone had any luck with the myblaster perl script in getting it to
>> control newer dish boxes? I've ran the "codesearch.pl" script to try and
>> find the correct code to get the channels to change but it's not coming up
>> with anything.
>> If you've had *any* success with the dish 381, please let me know. I
>> don't mind dumping the myblaster stuff and just buying another IR
>> transmitter.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ajay
>>
>> The person who wrote the script,post's to this group..His name is
> William Munson,perhaps he would be able to point you in the right
> direction....
>
>
I found references to the code that's supposed to put the myblaster in
"learning" mode but the site was down. Good ol' wayback machine saved it
though!

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.iotzov.com/files/MyBlaster14.1.tar.gz

--Ajay


beww at beww

Jul 1, 2009, 11:02 AM

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Re: myblaster and new dish stb. *sigh* [In reply to]

On Wednesday 01 July 2009 11:57:21 Ajay Sharma wrote:

>
> I found references to the code that's supposed to put the myblaster in
> "learning" mode but the site was down. Good ol' wayback machine saved it
> though!
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.iotzov.com/files/MyBlaster14.1.tar.
>gz

Great, thanks. I may need that someday.

Looks like a squatter on that domain, I've seen that graphic with the blonde
many times, I'd think that backpack would be getting heavy by now.

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william_munson at comcast

Jul 1, 2009, 3:56 PM

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Re: myblaster and new dish stb. *sigh* [In reply to]

Brian Wood wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 July 2009 11:57:21 Ajay Sharma wrote:
>
>
>> I found references to the code that's supposed to put the myblaster in
>> "learning" mode but the site was down. Good ol' wayback machine saved it
>> though!
>>
>> http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.iotzov.com/files/MyBlaster14.1.tar.
>> gz
>>
>
> Great, thanks. I may need that someday.
>
> Looks like a squatter on that domain, I've seen that graphic with the blonde
> many times, I'd think that backpack would be getting heavy by now.
>
>
Glad to see that someone is still using my code. There is a reported
problem with the 1.4.1 release that affects the learning of the zero
character. The learning mode was submitted by one of my users and I
released it without actually testing it. (I was no longer using mine). I
suspect that if you look at the codes learned by the other digits it
will become obvious what the code for 0 should be and just manually add
it to the list. Of course, your milage will vary.....

PS - The code was available from sourceforge.net last time I checked.

William Munson

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greg12866 at nycap

Jul 1, 2009, 6:45 PM

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Re: myblaster and new dish stb. *sigh* [In reply to]

William wrote:
> Brian Wood wrote:
>> On Wednesday 01 July 2009 11:57:21 Ajay Sharma wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I found references to the code that's supposed to put the myblaster in
>>> "learning" mode but the site was down. Good ol' wayback machine
>>> saved it
>>> though!
>>>
>>> http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.iotzov.com/files/MyBlaster14.1.tar.
>>>
>>> gz
>>>
>>
>> Great, thanks. I may need that someday.
>>
>> Looks like a squatter on that domain, I've seen that graphic with the
>> blonde many times, I'd think that backpack would be getting heavy by
>> now.
>>
>>
> Glad to see that someone is still using my code. There is a reported
> problem with the 1.4.1 release that affects the learning of the zero
> character. The learning mode was submitted by one of my users and I
> released it without actually testing it. (I was no longer using mine).
> I suspect that if you look at the codes learned by the other digits it
> will become obvious what the code for 0 should be and just manually
> add it to the list. Of course, your milage will vary.....
>
> PS - The code was available from sourceforge.net last time I checked.
>
> William Munson
>
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William,
I use it every day...I don't know why that company went out of
business. The MyBlaster works great..
Thanks for your effort...
Greg
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ajayrockrock at gmail

Jul 1, 2009, 8:06 PM

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Re: myblaster and new dish stb. *sigh* [In reply to]

William wrote:
> Brian Wood wrote:
>> On Wednesday 01 July 2009 11:57:21 Ajay Sharma wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I found references to the code that's supposed to put the myblaster in
>>> "learning" mode but the site was down. Good ol' wayback machine
>>> saved it
>>> though!
>>>
>>> http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.iotzov.com/files/MyBlaster14.1.tar.
>>>
>>> gz
>>>
>>
>> Great, thanks. I may need that someday.
>>
>> Looks like a squatter on that domain, I've seen that graphic with the
>> blonde many times, I'd think that backpack would be getting heavy by
>> now.
>>
>>
> Glad to see that someone is still using my code. There is a reported
> problem with the 1.4.1 release that affects the learning of the zero
> character. The learning mode was submitted by one of my users and I
> released it without actually testing it. (I was no longer using mine).
> I suspect that if you look at the codes learned by the other digits it
> will become obvious what the code for 0 should be and just manually
> add it to the list. Of course, your milage will vary.....
>
> PS - The code was available from sourceforge.net last time I checked.
>

I grabbed the latest copy from source forge (1.4.1) and it doesn't have
the learning code in there. I only found it from that other site.

And just to give you guys an update, I can't learn anything from my
remote because it's a UHF remote and not an IR remote. So frustrating....

--Ajay


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ajayrockrock at gmail

Jul 1, 2009, 8:11 PM

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Re: myblaster and new dish stb. *sigh* [In reply to]

Brian Wood wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 July 2009 00:55:23 Ajay Sharma wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I had an old myblaster and dish box working for several years until dish
>> told us that we had to upgrade our boxes. Now I'm stuck with a new box,
>> Dish 381 (I've heard it's a reworked Dish 811) and my old serial MyBlaster.
>>
>> Has anyone had any luck with the myblaster perl script in getting it to
>> control newer dish boxes? I've ran the "codesearch.pl" script to try
>> and find the correct code to get the channels to change but it's not
>> coming up with anything.
>>
>> If you've had *any* success with the dish 381, please let me know. I
>> don't mind dumping the myblaster stuff and just buying another IR
>> transmitter.
>
> I'm using a MyBlaster to control a DISH VIP722, which I still think of
> as "new", using code 775.
>
> As you probably know, DISH receivers use the following codes:
>
> 0312, 0511, 1005, 0668, 0713, 0775, 0871, 1086, 0167, 0853


HA! In an act of desperation, I started plugging in these codes instead
of relying on the CodeSearch.pl script and 0167 worked!! HIZZAH!

Thanks Brian for including this list and thanks William for writing the
great myblaster code!!

--Ajay
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beww at beww

Jul 2, 2009, 8:37 AM

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Re: myblaster and new dish stb. *sigh* [In reply to]

On Wednesday 01 July 2009 21:11:55 Ajay Sharma wrote:

> >
> > As you probably know, DISH receivers use the following codes:
> >
> > 0312, 0511, 1005, 0668, 0713, 0775, 0871, 1086, 0167, 0853
>
> HA! In an act of desperation, I started plugging in these codes instead
> of relying on the CodeSearch.pl script and 0167 worked!! HIZZAH!

Somehow it always seems to be one of the last in a list you try, but I'm glad
one of them worked.

>
> Thanks Brian for including this list and thanks William for writing the
> great myblaster code!!

I'll second the last point, thanks William, it's been years now with never a
missed channel change.

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junk_inbox at verizon

Jul 2, 2009, 10:19 AM

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On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Ajay Sharma <ajayrockrock[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I grabbed the latest copy from source forge (1.4.1) and it doesn't have the
> learning code in there. I only found it from that other site.
> And just to give you guys an update, I can't learn anything from my remote
> because it's a UHF remote and not an IR remote. So frustrating....
>
> --Ajay
>
>
Ajay,

I have Dish too, and the UHF remotes also transmit the IR codes at the
same time. ;-) (Look at it with a camcorder or cell phone camera while
pushing some buttons, and you'll see... ;-) ) -- so you *could* have
learned it, if you had to... ;-)

I'm just glad that your Dish receiver doesn't *require* the UHF control
only, otherwise you wouldn't be able to control it with myth. Thankfully,
most (all?) of the recent dish receivers that can be controlled by UHF also
work with IR. (As is the case with my Dish 510 units)

J-e-f-f-A


nick.rout at gmail

Jul 2, 2009, 2:06 PM

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On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Jeff<junk_inbox[at]verizon.net> wrote:

>
>   I have Dish too, and the UHF remotes also transmit the IR codes at the
> same time. ;-)  (Look at it with a camcorder or cell phone camera while
> pushing some buttons, and you'll see... ;-) )  -- so you *could* have
> learned it, if you had to...  ;-)
>
>   I'm just glad that your Dish receiver doesn't *require* the UHF control
> only, otherwise you wouldn't be able to control it with myth.  Thankfully,
> most (all?) of the recent dish receivers that can be controlled by UHF also
> work with IR.  (As is the case with my Dish 510 units)


As a point of interest, are there no uhf remote transmitters that are
computer controllable?
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junk_inbox at verizon

Jul 23, 2009, 11:38 AM

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On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Nick Rout <nick.rout[at]gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Jeff<junk_inbox[at]verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm just glad that your Dish receiver doesn't *require* the UHF control
> > only, otherwise you wouldn't be able to control it with myth.
> Thankfully,
>
> As a point of interest, are there no uhf remote transmitters that are
> computer controllable?
>

Not that I'm aware of, at least not for Dish Network receiver control.

I had found a page on the web where somebody had hacked a Dish UHF remote to
send just the numbers and 'ok', and had started to do the same to one of my
UHF remotes, but then I realized that my 510 'pvr' receiver had IR receivers
as well. I just had to set the remote code below 10 (IIRC). Then it worked
with IR just fine.

The only time you'd 'have' to use UHF on a dish receiver is if it didn't
have IR receivers, or the 2nd tuner on a dual-tuner box - but that would be
less-than-optimal anyways as the 2nd tuner only has RF output from what I
remember. :-(

J-e-f-f-A


drew.einhorn at gmail

Jul 23, 2009, 12:14 PM

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On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jeff<junk_inbox[at]verizon.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Nick Rout <nick.rout[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Jeff<junk_inbox[at]verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> >   I'm just glad that your Dish receiver doesn't *require* the UHF
>> > control
>> > only, otherwise you wouldn't be able to control it with myth.
>> > Thankfully,
>>
>> As a point of interest, are there no uhf remote transmitters that are
>> computer controllable?
>
> Not that I'm aware of, at least not for Dish Network receiver control.
>
> I had found a page on the web where somebody had hacked a Dish UHF remote to
> send just the numbers and 'ok', and had started to do the same to one of my
> UHF remotes, but then I realized that my 510 'pvr' receiver had IR receivers
> as well.  I just had to set the remote code below 10 (IIRC).  Then it worked
> with IR just fine.
>
> The only time you'd 'have' to use UHF on a dish receiver is if it didn't
> have IR receivers, or the 2nd tuner on a dual-tuner box - but that would be
> less-than-optimal anyways as the 2nd tuner only has RF output from what I
> remember.  :-(
>

Depends on the model the dish vip 722, tv2 has composite/analog audio out,
in addition to the rf output.

tv1 has hdmi, component, svideo, composite, fiber digital audio and analog
stereo outputs

the 522 also has a dvr that really sucks. I'm building a myth box
to take over the dvr functions. UPS just delivered the cpu and cooler.
Still waiting for FedEX.

Don't see much in the wiki about dish network.

I will be adding my box to the wiki as soon as I know how it comes out.

Any more advice or comments about dish network, configuration,
hardware, software, etc.?


> J-e-f-f-A
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junk_inbox at verizon

Jul 23, 2009, 12:50 PM

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On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:14 PM, drew einhorn <drew.einhorn[at]gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Jeff<junk_inbox[at]verizon.net> wrote:
> > The only time you'd 'have' to use UHF on a dish receiver is if it didn't
> > have IR receivers, or the 2nd tuner on a dual-tuner box - but that would
> be
> > less-than-optimal anyways as the 2nd tuner only has RF output from what I
> > remember. :-(
>
> Depends on the model the dish vip 722, tv2 has composite/analog audio out,
> in addition to the rf output.

Well, composite is better than RF output... ;-) I don't think the 2nd
tuner can be set to work with IR, but if it can, you're all set. (I think
if you set it to codeset 1 through 9 it still will only respond to them if
received via UHF, but I'm not positive...)


> the 522 also has a dvr that really sucks. I'm building a myth box
> to take over the dvr functions.

The 510 isn't horrible, but nowhere near as nice as MythTV. So I'm using it
as a simple tuner for Myth as well. ;-)
(I used to have 3 DishPlayer 7200's with Dish for the first 5 years of my
service - awesome PVRs for their time.)

Don't see much in the wiki about dish network.

There is a page about Dish LIRC configuration - I reference it below.


> Any more advice or comments about dish network, configuration,
> hardware, software, etc.?
> Drew Einhorn
>

I currently use 3 Dish receivers (A 510 'pvr', 3800 and 3900) with my
MythTV system, feeding S-Video and Analog audio into Hauppauge tuner cards
(A PVR-500 and a PVR-250). I control them with one instance of LIRC, and
each box set to a different IR codeset.

The wiki page below has a good writeup on using LIRC with Dish receivers,
which can be set up to 16 different IR codesets. I use this with my setup,
with one LIRC instance with 3 'blaster' eyes (a home-made buffered blaster
based on the one on the lirc.org site), and each receiver set to a different
code. (I use Codes 1, 6 and 9)
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/DISHNetworkLIRCConfiguration

The only change that I think I had to make to this file was that my dish
receivers used a frequency of 40000, not 56000. (IIRC, They would not
respond at 56Khz, and I verified with an oscilloscope that the real carrier
frequency of a standard dish remote was 40Khz)

I'd be happy to share my channel-change scripts, etc to help you out.
(Gee, maybe I should create a wiki page and/or update the page above? -
There's a thought...)

J-e-f-f-A


mythtv at schdav

Jul 24, 2009, 7:55 AM

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>>
>> Any more advice or comments about dish network, configuration,
>> hardware, software, etc.?

There is a device that Dish just announced called the TV2 IR
Converter, part #163933 that allows you to control the 2nd tuner on
dual tuner boxes with IR. Basically its a box that plugs into the UHF
remote antenna that converts the dish IR commands to UHF. I believe
its $35 and you have to get it from a "dish retailer" who will
probably have to special order it for you. You can look up nearby dish
retailers on dish's website. I haven't got my hands on one yet but
plan to.
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