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davidkrainess at yahoo

Jan 17, 2009, 10:47 AM

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Lirc Issue, Fedora 10, PRV250, Intermitant Delay with remote sends in MythTV

Hi all,

I just did a yum upgrade in Fedora 10 yesterday with a PVR250 as the remote input. Now intermittantly (10% of the time), my remote codes have about a 30 second delay before MythTV responds (they will stack up, then process very quickly). With irw up, the response is instant in irw, yet MythTV, in about 30 seconds, the action (or stacked up actions) happens. Once again, this is only about 10% of the time I notice this, 90% of the time MythTV is real time processing my remote requests. Both lirc and MythTV were updated with my system update.

I don't think it is LIRC because irw is processing the commands instantly. I am going to see what the cpu load is, but I suspect this is not the issue.

Anybody else seeing this?

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mtdean at thirdcontact

Jan 17, 2009, 10:53 AM

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Re: Lirc Issue, Fedora 10, PRV250, Intermitant Delay with remote sends in MythTV [In reply to]

On 01/17/2009 01:47 PM, David Krainess wrote:
> I just did a yum upgrade in Fedora 10 yesterday with a PVR250 as the remote input. Now intermittantly (10% of the time), my remote codes have about a 30 second delay before MythTV responds (they will stack up, then process very quickly). With irw up, the response is instant in irw, yet MythTV, in about 30 seconds, the action (or stacked up actions) happens. Once again, this is only about 10% of the time I notice this, 90% of the time MythTV is real time processing my remote requests. Both lirc and MythTV were updated with my system update.
>
> I don't think it is LIRC because irw is processing the commands instantly. I am going to see what the cpu load is, but I suspect this is not the issue.
>
> Anybody else seeing this?

mythfrontend --version

(full output, please)

Mike
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davidkrainess at yahoo

Jan 17, 2009, 11:22 AM

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Re: Lirc Issue, Fedora 10, PRV250, Intermitant Delay with remote sends in MythTV [In reply to]

here you go:

<<BEGIN OUTPUT>>
Please include all output in bug reports.
MythTV Version : 19631M
MythTV Branch : branches/release-0-21-fixes
Library API : 0.21.20080304-1
Network Protocol : 40
Options compiled in:
linux release using_oss using_alsa using_arts using_jack using_backend using_dbox2 using_dvb using_firewire using_frontend using_hdhomerun using_iptv using_ivtv using_joystick_menu using_libfftw3 using_lirc using_opengl_vsync using_opengl_video using_v4l using_x11 using_xrandr using_xv using_xvmc using_xvmcw using_xvmc_vld using_bindings_perl using_bindings_python using_opengl using_ffmpeg_threads using_libavc_5_3 using_live
<<END OUTPUT>>

--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Michael T. Dean <mtdean [at] thirdcontact> wrote:

> From: Michael T. Dean <mtdean [at] thirdcontact>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Lirc Issue, Fedora 10, PRV250, Intermitant Delay with remote sends in MythTV
> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 10:53 AM
> On 01/17/2009 01:47 PM, David Krainess wrote:
> > I just did a yum upgrade in Fedora 10 yesterday with a
> PVR250 as the remote input. Now intermittantly (10% of the
> time), my remote codes have about a 30 second delay before
> MythTV responds (they will stack up, then process very
> quickly). With irw up, the response is instant in irw, yet
> MythTV, in about 30 seconds, the action (or stacked up
> actions) happens. Once again, this is only about 10% of the
> time I notice this, 90% of the time MythTV is real time
> processing my remote requests. Both lirc and MythTV were
> updated with my system update.
> >
> > I don't think it is LIRC because irw is processing
> the commands instantly. I am going to see what the cpu load
> is, but I suspect this is not the issue.
> >
> > Anybody else seeing this?
>
> mythfrontend --version
>
> (full output, please)
>
> Mike
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mtdean at thirdcontact

Jan 17, 2009, 11:33 AM

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Re: Lirc Issue, Fedora 10, PRV250, Intermitant Delay with remote sends in MythTV [In reply to]

<fixed top-posting and broken attributions from broken MUA>

On 01/17/2009 02:22 PM, David Krainess wrote:

> --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>
> > On 01/17/2009 01:47 PM, David Krainess wrote:
> >
> >> I just did a yum upgrade in Fedora 10 yesterday with a PVR250 as
> >> the remote input. Now intermittantly (10% of the time), my
> >> remote codes have about a 30 second delay before MythTV responds
> >> (they will stack up, then process very quickly). With irw up,
> >> the response is instant in irw, yet MythTV, in about 30 seconds,
> >> the action (or stacked up actions) happens. Once again, this is
> >> only about 10% of the time I notice this, 90% of the time MythTV
> >> is real time processing my remote requests. Both lirc and MythTV
> >> were updated with my system update.
> >>
> >> I don't think it is LIRC because irw is processing the commands
> >> instantly. I am going to see what the cpu load is, but I suspect
> >> this is not the issue.
> >>
> >> Anybody else seeing this?
> >
> > mythfrontend --version
> >
> > (full output, please)
>
> here you go:
>

> <<BEGIN OUTPUT>>
> Please include all output in bug reports.
> MythTV Version : 19631M
> MythTV Branch : branches/release-0-21-fixes
> Library API : 0.21.20080304-1
> Network Protocol : 40
> Options compiled in:
> linux release using_oss using_alsa using_arts using_jack using_backend using_dbox2 using_dvb using_firewire using_frontend using_hdhomerun using_iptv using_ivtv using_joystick_menu using_libfftw3 using_lirc using_opengl_vsync using_opengl_video using_v4l using_x11 using_xrandr using_xv using_xvmc using_xvmcw using_xvmc_vld using_bindings_perl using_bindings_python using_opengl using_ffmpeg_threads using_libavc_5_3 using_live
> <<END OUTPUT>>

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/366075#366075 and the
rest of the thread.

Mike

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b.taber at comcast

Jan 17, 2009, 8:23 PM

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Re: Lirc Issue, Fedora 10, PRV250, Intermitant Delay with remote sends in MythTV [In reply to]

Michael T. Dean wrote:
>
>> here you go:
>>
>
>> <<BEGIN OUTPUT>>
>> Please include all output in bug reports.
>> MythTV Version : 19631M
>> MythTV Branch : branches/release-0-21-fixes
>> Library API : 0.21.20080304-1
>> Network Protocol : 40
>> Options compiled in:
>> linux release using_oss using_alsa using_arts using_jack
>> using_backend using_dbox2 using_dvb using_firewire using_frontend
>> using_hdhomerun using_iptv using_ivtv using_joystick_menu
>> using_libfftw3 using_lirc using_opengl_vsync using_opengl_video
>> using_v4l using_x11 using_xrandr using_xv using_xvmc using_xvmcw
>> using_xvmc_vld using_bindings_perl using_bindings_python using_opengl
>> using_ffmpeg_threads using_libavc_5_3 using_live
>> <<END OUTPUT>>
>
>
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/366075#366075 and the
> rest of the thread.
>
> Mike
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Yes, I'm still seeing this same behavior on occasion. Although, the
incidence of it happening is greatly diminished now. Before, it could be
seen and duplicated within a couple of minutes of starting any
recording. Now, it seems to be more sporadic.

The system is a separate frontend. Both the backend and frontend are on
Fedora 10 using the same mythbackend version as above. The frontend
system is running Gnome desktop rather than XFCE. I have completely
uninstalled the X and gnome screensavers. The CPU usage stays around
15-20%. The keyboard can clear the problem within a second or two and
commercial skip will also clear the logjam. I have checked and noticed
IRW responds immediately to the remote button presses.

Bruce
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mtdean at thirdcontact

Jan 17, 2009, 10:16 PM

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Re: Lirc Issue, Fedora 10, PRV250, Intermitant Delay with remote sends in MythTV [In reply to]

On 01/17/2009 11:23 PM, Bruce Taber wrote:
> Michael T. Dean wrote:
>
>>> here you go:
>>> <<BEGIN OUTPUT>>
>>> Please include all output in bug reports.
>>> MythTV Version : 19631M
>>> MythTV Branch : branches/release-0-21-fixes
>>> Library API : 0.21.20080304-1
>>> Network Protocol : 40
>>> Options compiled in:
>>> linux release using_oss using_alsa using_arts using_jack
>>> using_backend using_dbox2 using_dvb using_firewire using_frontend
>>> using_hdhomerun using_iptv using_ivtv using_joystick_menu
>>> using_libfftw3 using_lirc using_opengl_vsync using_opengl_video
>>> using_v4l using_x11 using_xrandr using_xv using_xvmc using_xvmcw
>>> using_xvmc_vld using_bindings_perl using_bindings_python using_opengl
>>> using_ffmpeg_threads using_libavc_5_3 using_live
>>> <<END OUTPUT>>
>>>
>> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/366075#366075 and the
>> rest of the thread.
> Yes, I'm still seeing this same behavior on occasion. Although, the
> incidence of it happening is greatly diminished now. Before, it could be
> seen and duplicated within a couple of minutes of starting any
> recording. Now, it seems to be more sporadic.
>
> The system is a separate frontend. Both the backend and frontend are on
> Fedora 10 using the same mythbackend version as above. The frontend
> system is running Gnome desktop rather than XFCE. I have completely
> uninstalled the X and gnome screensavers. The CPU usage stays around
> 15-20%. The keyboard can clear the problem within a second or two and
> commercial skip will also clear the logjam. I have checked and noticed
> IRW responds immediately to the remote button presses.

By quoting the tail end of that thread, I meant you should try running
/with/ and /without/ gnome-screensaver active (restarting the frontend
after activating/deactivating the screensaver). If there's a change in
the behavior without the screensaver active, please let me know. If
it's the same with or without the screensaver, then it's some issue
completely unrelated to the screensaver.

Mike
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davidkrainess at yahoo

Jan 18, 2009, 5:53 AM

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Re: Lirc Issue, Fedora 10, PRV250, Intermitant Delay with remote sends in MythTV [In reply to]

--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Michael T. Dean <mtdean [at] thirdcontact> wrote:

> From: Michael T. Dean <mtdean [at] thirdcontact>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Lirc Issue, Fedora 10, PRV250, Intermitant Delay with remote sends in MythTV
> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 10:16 PM
> On 01/17/2009 11:23 PM, Bruce Taber wrote:
> > Michael T. Dean wrote:
> >
> >>> here you go:
> >>> <<BEGIN OUTPUT>>
> >>> Please include all output in bug reports.
> >>> MythTV Version : 19631M
> >>> MythTV Branch : branches/release-0-21-fixes
> >>> Library API : 0.21.20080304-1
> >>> Network Protocol : 40
> >>> Options compiled in:
> >>> linux release using_oss using_alsa using_arts
> using_jack
> >>> using_backend using_dbox2 using_dvb
> using_firewire using_frontend
> >>> using_hdhomerun using_iptv using_ivtv
> using_joystick_menu
> >>> using_libfftw3 using_lirc using_opengl_vsync
> using_opengl_video
> >>> using_v4l using_x11 using_xrandr using_xv
> using_xvmc using_xvmcw
> >>> using_xvmc_vld using_bindings_perl
> using_bindings_python using_opengl
> >>> using_ffmpeg_threads using_libavc_5_3
> using_live
> >>> <<END OUTPUT>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/366075#366075
> and the
> >> rest of the thread.
> > Yes, I'm still seeing this same behavior on
> occasion. Although, the
> > incidence of it happening is greatly diminished now.
> Before, it could be
> > seen and duplicated within a couple of minutes of
> starting any
> > recording. Now, it seems to be more sporadic.
> >
> > The system is a separate frontend. Both the backend
> and frontend are on
> > Fedora 10 using the same mythbackend version as above.
> The frontend
> > system is running Gnome desktop rather than XFCE. I
> have completely
> > uninstalled the X and gnome screensavers. The CPU
> usage stays around
> > 15-20%. The keyboard can clear the problem within a
> second or two and
> > commercial skip will also clear the logjam. I have
> checked and noticed
> > IRW responds immediately to the remote button presses.
>
> By quoting the tail end of that thread, I meant you should
> try running /with/ and /without/ gnome-screensaver active
> (restarting the frontend after activating/deactivating the
> screensaver). If there's a change in the behavior
> without the screensaver active, please let me know. If
> it's the same with or without the screensaver, then
> it's some issue completely unrelated to the screensaver.
>
> Mike

I have the problem with or without a screen saver installed (and or running), thanks for the thread link (I was searching for "lirc delay", and didn't get a hit in the archive, or I would have seen that thread (if I just searched "remote delay" instead :( ).

Anyways, I suspect there is some relation to that thread with the issue I am having. I will hypothesize that there is a combination of things in GNOME (or Fedora 10) that could be causing this. I'm a going to try a serial receiver, and then, perhaps KDE and to try to root this out. Intermittant errors are really annoying.

Is anybody else seeing this? Please note:
1. Recent system update <= 1 month (yes/no)
2. Linux distro
3. X display (Gnome, KDE..etc) in use
4. Remote input (PVRxxx, serial..etc)
5. MythTV build (mythfrontend --version)

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b.taber at comcast

Jan 18, 2009, 6:56 AM

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Re: Lirc Issue, Fedora 10, PRV250, Intermitant Delay with remote sends in MythTV [In reply to]

David Krainess wrote:

>
> I have the problem with or without a screen saver installed (and or running), thanks for the thread link (I was searching for "lirc delay", and didn't get a hit in the archive, or I would have seen that thread (if I just searched "remote delay" instead :( ).
>
> Anyways, I suspect there is some relation to that thread with the issue I am having. I will hypothesize that there is a combination of things in GNOME (or Fedora 10) that could be causing this. I'm a going to try a serial receiver, and then, perhaps KDE and to try to root this out. Intermittant errors are really annoying.
>
> Is anybody else seeing this? Please note:
> 1. Recent system update <= 1 month (yes/no)
The problem started for me back on Fedora 9 around about Oct 2008. It
seemed to coincide with the addition of a replacement video card.
However, that was not specifically verified as there were numerous
system updates. It was not possible to pinpoint any specific culprits as
I have not been able to consistently duplicate the problem. It was more
consistently observable running XFCE.
> 2. Linux distro
Currently running Fedora 10.
> 3. X display (Gnome, KDE..etc) in use
Gnome at the moment. No screen savers installed. The problem "seemed" to
be more prevalent when running XFCE.
> 4. Remote input (PVRxxx, serial..etc)
The remote input is a serial (Tira2) on the DB9 connector. I've toyed
with the idea of trying a PVR250 just for the remote functionality to
see if the problem still exists. If someone can verify the problem using
a PVRxxx IR receiver that would help me avoid having to pull two systems
apart to switch a PVR card.
> 5. MythTV build (mythfrontend --version)
My system is set up as a separate frontend/backend system. I have a
second frontend running on a desktop that I have not seen the problem
on. However, that system doesn't get used as heavily to view TV in the
same way the main frontend does and the remote is more of a nuisance (or
testing) rather than the main means of input.

Frontend (built from source:)
Please include all output in bug reports.
MythTV Version : 19631M
MythTV Branch : branches/release-0-21-fixes
Library API : 0.21.20080304-1
Network Protocol : 40
Options compiled in:
linux release using_oss using_alsa using_backend using_dbox2 using_dvb
using_frontend using_hdhomerun using_iptv using_ivtv using_lirc
using_v4l using_x11 using_xrandr using_xv using_xvmc using_xvmcw
using_xvmc_vld using_bindings_perl using_bindings_python using_opengl
using_ffmpeg_threads using_live

Backend (installed from atrpms:)
Please include all output in bug reports.
MythTV Version : 19631M
MythTV Branch : branches/release-0-21-fixes
Library API : 0.21.20080304-1
Network Protocol : 40
Options compiled in:
linux release using_oss using_alsa using_arts using_jack using_backend
using_dbox2 using_dvb using_firewire using_frontend using_hdhomerun
using_iptv using_ivtv using_joystick_menu using_libfftw3 using_lirc
using_opengl_vsync using_opengl_video using_v4l using_x11 using_xrandr
using_xv using_xvmc using_xvmcw using_xvmc_vld using_bindings_perl
using_bindings_python using_opengl using_ffmpeg_threads using_libavc_5_3
using_live
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larry at foxgulch

Mar 4, 2009, 7:05 AM

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Re: Lirc Issue, Fedora 10, PRV250, Intermitant Delay with remote sends in MythTV [In reply to]

Ref: Thread concerning response delay (intermittent) in mythfrontend.

I have mythfrontend that has this problem. The Mythbuntu 8.10 on
partition 3 experiences the problem (occasionally I push the remote
button, for example, but nothing happens for a few moments or so.
Eventually the remote starts working again. I sshed into the box and
irw always seems to be instantly responsive)

On this same box (same hardware) on Partition 1, I have a frontend
based on Mythbuntu 8.04.2. As near as I can tell 8.04.2 doesn't
experience this problem.

In response to the request for into, here's the answers for the 8.04.2
FE installation (Doesn't have Problem):
1. Yes, updated to today
2. Mythbuntu 8.04.2 2.6.24-23-generic
3. Gnome (desktop installed from Mythbuntu Control Centre menu selection)
Screensaver is active, causes not problem.
4. Remote is StreamZap USB selected from Mythbuntu Control Centre.
5.
lj [at] lian:~$ mythfrontend --version
Please include all output in bug reports.
MythTV Version : 18207
MythTV Branch : branches/release-0-21-fixes
Library API : 0.21.20080304-1
Network Protocol : 40
Options compiled in:
linux profile using_oss using_alsa using_arts using_jack using_backend
using_dbox2 using_dvb using_firewire using_frontend using_hdhomerun
using_iptv using_ivtv using_joystick_menu using_libfftw3 using_lirc
using_opengl_vsync using_opengl_video using_v4l using_x11 using_xrandr
using_xv using_xvmc using_xvmcw using_xvmc_vld using_glx_proc_addr_arb
using_bindings_perl using_bindings_python using_opengl
using_ffmpeg_threads using_libavc_5_3 using_live

On the Mythbuntu 8.10 (The one with the remote button delay, this
installation has the problem.)
1. Yes, updated to today
2. Mythbuntu 8.10 2.6.27-11-generic
3. Gnome (desktop installed from Mythbuntu Control Centre menu selection)
Screensaver is not active.
4. Remote is StreamZap USB selected from Mythbuntu Control Centre.
(same as 8.04.2 installation on same box)
5. lj [at] lian:~$ mythfrontend --version
Please include all output in bug reports.
MythTV Version : 18722
MythTV Branch : branches/release-0-21-fixes
Library API : 0.21.20080304-1
Network Protocol : 40
Options compiled in:
linux profile using_oss using_alsa using_arts using_jack using_backend
using_dbox2 using_dvb using_firewire using_frontend using_hdhomerun
using_iptv using_ivtv using_joystick_menu using_libfftw3 using_lirc
using_opengl_vsync using_opengl_video using_v4l using_x11 using_xrandr
using_xv using_xvmc using_xvmcw using_xvmc_vld using_glx_proc_addr_arb
using_bindings_perl using_bindings_python using_opengl
using_ffmpeg_threads using_libavc_5_3 using_live

Larry

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