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kenneth at berrypatch

Dec 16, 2008, 7:54 AM

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Rip Damaged DVD

I would like to know how to rip a DVD that reports to have a
damaged/unreadable area.

I can watch the DVD using a standalone player, or Myth itself. But, when
I try to rip and transcode the program using Myth it fails. The log shows
something about I/O error.

Is there a way to rip and transcode while ignoring the error?

What other options do I have?

Thanks,

Kenneth



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mtdean at thirdcontact

Dec 16, 2008, 10:51 AM

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Re: Rip Damaged DVD [In reply to]

On 12/16/2008 10:54 AM, kenneth wrote:
> I would like to know how to rip a DVD that reports to have a
> damaged/unreadable area.
>
> I can watch the DVD using a standalone player, or Myth itself. But, when
> I try to rip and transcode the program using Myth it fails. The log shows
> something about I/O error.
>

That typically indicates a DVD that was "protected" by a scheme that
causes disk read errors so you can't rip it. This is often done by big
houses, like Sony, to protect their ultra-valuable content from nasty
pirates.

> Is there a way to rip and transcode while ignoring the error?
>

Myth will not let you circumvent such copy protection. (So, not with
Myth--and, you can read the implied conclusion to that statement yourself.)

> What other options do I have?

There are many wikis/fora/whatever (probably all hosted outside the
US--unlike this mailing list) that discuss how to rip copy-protected DVD's.

Mike
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john.baab at gmail

Dec 16, 2008, 11:08 AM

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Re: Rip Damaged DVD [In reply to]

If you want to recover data from a damaged dvd you can use gddrescue

All you do is ddrescue -d /dev/dvd DVD_NAME.iso DVD_NAME.iso.log

This will skip over bad sectors and come back to recover them later,
so if it is choking on bad sectors for a while you can normally ^C it
and the ISO should be as good as you will get. If you enable the log
like I mentioned above then you can kill the process and restart it as
well. This is normally a longer process than using myth to rip the
dvd.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Michael T. Dean
<mtdean [at] thirdcontact> wrote:
> On 12/16/2008 10:54 AM, kenneth wrote:
>> I would like to know how to rip a DVD that reports to have a
>> damaged/unreadable area.
>>
>> I can watch the DVD using a standalone player, or Myth itself. But, when
>> I try to rip and transcode the program using Myth it fails. The log shows
>> something about I/O error.
>>
>
> That typically indicates a DVD that was "protected" by a scheme that
> causes disk read errors so you can't rip it. This is often done by big
> houses, like Sony, to protect their ultra-valuable content from nasty
> pirates.
>
>> Is there a way to rip and transcode while ignoring the error?
>>
>
> Myth will not let you circumvent such copy protection. (So, not with
> Myth--and, you can read the implied conclusion to that statement yourself.)
>
>> What other options do I have?
>
> There are many wikis/fora/whatever (probably all hosted outside the
> US--unlike this mailing list) that discuss how to rip copy-protected DVD's.
>
> Mike
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kenneth at berrypatch

Dec 16, 2008, 12:43 PM

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Re: Rip Damaged DVD [In reply to]

> If you want to recover data from a damaged dvd you can use gddrescue
>
> All you do is ddrescue -d /dev/dvd DVD_NAME.iso DVD_NAME.iso.log
>
> This will skip over bad sectors and come back to recover them later,
> so if it is choking on bad sectors for a while you can normally ^C it
> and the ISO should be as good as you will get. If you enable the log
> like I mentioned above then you can kill the process and restart it as
> well. This is normally a longer process than using myth to rip the
> dvd.
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Michael T. Dean
> <mtdean [at] thirdcontact> wrote:
>> On 12/16/2008 10:54 AM, kenneth wrote:
>>> I would like to know how to rip a DVD that reports to have a
>>> damaged/unreadable area.
>>>
>>> I can watch the DVD using a standalone player, or Myth itself. But,
>>> when
>>> I try to rip and transcode the program using Myth it fails. The log
>>> shows
>>> something about I/O error.
>>>
>>
>> That typically indicates a DVD that was "protected" by a scheme that
>> causes disk read errors so you can't rip it. This is often done by big
>> houses, like Sony, to protect their ultra-valuable content from nasty
>> pirates.
>>
>>> Is there a way to rip and transcode while ignoring the error?
>>>
>>
>> Myth will not let you circumvent such copy protection. (So, not with
>> Myth--and, you can read the implied conclusion to that statement
>> yourself.)
>>
>>> What other options do I have?
>>
>> There are many wikis/fora/whatever (probably all hosted outside the
>> US--unlike this mailing list) that discuss how to rip copy-protected
>> DVD's.
>>
>> Mike
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Thank you for the reply(s) I will try searching for download and
operating instructions for ddrescue.

Kenneth
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john.baab at gmail

Dec 16, 2008, 12:52 PM

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Re: Rip Damaged DVD [In reply to]

Keep in mind there are 2 different versions, ddrescue and gddrescue.
I recommend gddrescue as it incorporates things like resuming from the
log and some other features.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:43 PM, <kenneth [at] berrypatch> wrote:
>> If you want to recover data from a damaged dvd you can use gddrescue
>>
>> All you do is ddrescue -d /dev/dvd DVD_NAME.iso DVD_NAME.iso.log
>>
>> This will skip over bad sectors and come back to recover them later,
>> so if it is choking on bad sectors for a while you can normally ^C it
>> and the ISO should be as good as you will get. If you enable the log
>> like I mentioned above then you can kill the process and restart it as
>> well. This is normally a longer process than using myth to rip the
>> dvd.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Michael T. Dean
>> <mtdean [at] thirdcontact> wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2008 10:54 AM, kenneth wrote:
>>>> I would like to know how to rip a DVD that reports to have a
>>>> damaged/unreadable area.
>>>>
>>>> I can watch the DVD using a standalone player, or Myth itself. But,
>>>> when
>>>> I try to rip and transcode the program using Myth it fails. The log
>>>> shows
>>>> something about I/O error.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That typically indicates a DVD that was "protected" by a scheme that
>>> causes disk read errors so you can't rip it. This is often done by big
>>> houses, like Sony, to protect their ultra-valuable content from nasty
>>> pirates.
>>>
>>>> Is there a way to rip and transcode while ignoring the error?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Myth will not let you circumvent such copy protection. (So, not with
>>> Myth--and, you can read the implied conclusion to that statement
>>> yourself.)
>>>
>>>> What other options do I have?
>>>
>>> There are many wikis/fora/whatever (probably all hosted outside the
>>> US--unlike this mailing list) that discuss how to rip copy-protected
>>> DVD's.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
>>> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
> Thank you for the reply(s) I will try searching for download and
> operating instructions for ddrescue.
>
> Kenneth
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mtdean at thirdcontact

Dec 16, 2008, 1:35 PM

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Re: Rip Damaged DVD [In reply to]

On 12/16/2008 03:52 PM, John Baab wrote:
> Keep in mind there are 2 different versions, ddrescue and gddrescue.
> I recommend gddrescue as it incorporates things like resuming from the
> log and some other features.

Actually, the names of the applications are dd_rescue (the original) and
ddrescue (which is a GNU app that does far more).

dd_rescue ( http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/ddrescue/ ) is very basic
and requires a lot of understanding to use. Therefore, LAB Valentin
wrote a script called dd_rhelp (
http://www.kalysto.org/utilities/dd_rhelp/index.en.html ) to make using
dd_rescue easier (and so that it generally does the right thing by
default). The dd_rhelp script added capabilities like automatically
skipping bad sectors to get all the good data first (then going back to
the bad sectors) as well as resuming and showing progress. However, LAB
Valentin said that the main problem with dd_rhelp was that it was a
shell script, rather than a C executable (like dd_rescue), so a better
solution was to incorporate the functionality provided by dd_rhelp into
dd_rescue.

Before he could do so, GNU decided they needed a tool like dd_rescue
(though both dd_rescue and dd_rhelp are GPL-licensed, GNU wanted a tool
that was part of the GNU project), so Antonio Diaz wrote one called
ddrescue ( http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html ). It
incorporates all the functionality provided by both dd_rescue and
dd_rhelp; therefore, it basically obsoletes the originals (and, the only
reason I can think of to choose to use the originals would be if some
sys admin had written a large script that uses dd_rescue/dd_rhelp and
he/she didn't feel like updating it/learning the new, improved approach).

For some reason, however, distros/packagers have decided that dd_rescue
and ddrescue are indistinguishable (whether that's due to limitations of
the package manager or the users, I couldn't say). So, to make things
better for "everyone" many (most?) have decided to rename the package
ddrescue to gddrescue (for "GNU ddrescue").

This, of course, makes sense... Rather than simply remove from all
repos the obsoleted tool dd_rescue (where even the author of dd_rhelp
says not to use dd_rhelp and dd_rescue but to use ddrescue, instead) or
rename the obsoleted tool, they renamed the good tool that should remain
in use indefinitely. Therefore, people tell other people to use a
non-existent program called gddrescue, which is just a renamed version
of ddrescue. So, people who use different distros (if any distro
actually did things right) or who want to find the upstream source are
very confused.

Anyway, gddrescue is likely a package name, but note that it should
contain the GNU program called ddrescue (which may be in the form of a
binary/executable called gddrescue). And, only dd_rescue (with an
underscore) is the one to avoid. The program ddrescue /should/ be the
good one.

However, I'll admit it's possible that packagers had decided to rename
dd_rescue to ddrescue before ddrescue was created, which would then mean
they'd need to rename ddrescue to gddrescue--unless, of course, they
just re-renamed dd_rescue (which was formerly ddrescue) to
obsoleteddrescue or whatever).

Mike "And some people think GNU/Linux is confusing?" Dean
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