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chaslinux at gmail

Aug 8, 2008, 6:12 AM

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MythWeb gone minimalist after Palm TX browse

MythWeb was working fine for me until I attempted to browse to it using my
Palm TX. Since then I've only been able to see the following:
http://www.charlesmccolm.com/content/bad-mythweb-screen

This seems to come up regardless of what hardware platform, OS, or browser
used. MythWeb seems to have reverted to minimal html (stone age) settings.
Has anyone else had this happen?

Using MythDora 5.0 if that makes any difference.

Cheers,

Charles

mitchell.gore at gmail

Aug 8, 2008, 6:30 AM

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Re: MythWeb gone minimalist after Palm TX browse [In reply to]

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Charles M <chaslinux[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> MythWeb was working fine for me until I attempted to browse to it using my
> Palm TX. Since then I've only been able to see the following:
> http://www.charlesmccolm.com/content/bad-mythweb-screen
>
> This seems to come up regardless of what hardware platform, OS, or browser
> used. MythWeb seems to have reverted to minimal html (stone age) settings.
> Has anyone else had this happen?
>
> Using MythDora 5.0 if that makes any difference.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Charles
>
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This has been covered a lot. Append ?RESET_TMPL=true to the end of
your mythweb address.

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Aug 8, 2008, 6:34 AM

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Re: MythWeb gone minimalist after Palm TX browse [In reply to]

On 08/08/2008 09:12 AM, Charles M wrote:
> MythWeb was working fine for me until I attempted to browse to it
> using my Palm TX. Since then I've only been able to see the following:
> http://www.charlesmccolm.com/content/bad-mythweb-screen
>
> This seems to come up regardless of what hardware platform, OS, or
> browser used. MythWeb seems to have reverted to minimal html (stone
> age) settings. Has anyone else had this happen?
>
> Using MythDora 5.0 if that makes any difference.

http://<hostname>:<port><mythweb app path>/README

Or, if you'd rather make sure you can save you've never read the
README: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/316809#316809 .

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Aug 8, 2008, 6:35 AM

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Re: MythWeb gone minimalist after Palm TX browse [In reply to]

On 08/08/2008 09:30 AM, Mitch Gore wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Charles M wrote:
>
>> MythWeb was working fine for me until I attempted to browse to it using my
>> Palm TX. Since then I've only been able to see the following:
>> http://www.charlesmccolm.com/content/bad-mythweb-screen
>>
>> This seems to come up regardless of what hardware platform, OS, or browser
>> used. MythWeb seems to have reverted to minimal html (stone age) settings.
>> Has anyone else had this happen?
>>
>> Using MythDora 5.0 if that makes any difference.
> This has been covered a lot. Append ?RESET_TMPL=true to the end of
> your mythweb address.

Probably covered a lot because people give out the fish (RESET_TMPL)
rather than teaching to fish (README). ;)

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chaslinux at gmail

Aug 8, 2008, 12:47 PM

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Re: MythWeb gone minimalist after Palm TX browse [In reply to]

Thanks guys, actually I did spend about an hour googling but came up with
pretty much every problem with MythWeb except this one.

Thanks for all the fish!

nick.rout at gmail

Aug 11, 2008, 9:36 PM

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Re: MythWeb gone minimalist after Palm TX browse [In reply to]

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Michael T. Dean <mtdean[at]thirdcontact.com> wrote:

>> This has been covered a lot. Append ?RESET_TMPL=true to the end of
>> your mythweb address.
>
> Probably covered a lot because people give out the fish (RESET_TMPL)
> rather than teaching to fish (README). ;)

Perhaps if there was some way of knowing from mythweb that there is a
README there, like a link in the mythweb interface?
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Aug 11, 2008, 9:57 PM

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Re: MythWeb gone minimalist after Palm TX browse [In reply to]

On Aug 11, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Nick Rout wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Michael T. Dean <mtdean[at]thirdcontact.com
> > wrote:
>
>>> This has been covered a lot. Append ?RESET_TMPL=true to the end of
>>> your mythweb address.
>>
>> Probably covered a lot because people give out the fish (RESET_TMPL)
>> rather than teaching to fish (README). ;)
>
> Perhaps if there was some way of knowing from mythweb that there is a
> README there, like a link in the mythweb interface?

Or you could just check the wiki.
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythWeb_readme

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nick.rout at gmail

Aug 12, 2008, 1:30 AM

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Re: MythWeb gone minimalist after Palm TX browse [In reply to]

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Brad DerManouelian
<myth[at]dermanouelian.com> wrote:
> On Aug 11, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Nick Rout wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Michael T. Dean <mtdean[at]thirdcontact.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> This has been covered a lot. Append ?RESET_TMPL=true to the end of
>>>> your mythweb address.
>>>
>>> Probably covered a lot because people give out the fish (RESET_TMPL)
>>> rather than teaching to fish (README). ;)
>>
>> Perhaps if there was some way of knowing from mythweb that there is a
>> README there, like a link in the mythweb interface?
>
> Or you could just check the wiki.
> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythWeb_readme

Frankly a web page doesn't normally need a README so I never thought to look.

Its not there on my mythbuntu mythweb.
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Aug 12, 2008, 1:57 AM

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Re: MythWeb gone minimalist after Palm TX browse [In reply to]

2008/8/12 Nick Rout <nick.rout[at]gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Brad DerManouelian
> <myth[at]dermanouelian.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 11, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Nick Rout wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Michael T. Dean <mtdean[at]thirdcontact.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> This has been covered a lot. Append ?RESET_TMPL=true to the end of
>>>>> your mythweb address.
>>>>
>>>> Probably covered a lot because people give out the fish (RESET_TMPL)
>>>> rather than teaching to fish (README). ;)
>>>
>>> Perhaps if there was some way of knowing from mythweb that there is a
>>> README there, like a link in the mythweb interface?
>>
>> Or you could just check the wiki.
>> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythWeb_readme
>
> Frankly a web page doesn't normally need a README so I never thought to look.
>
> Its not there on my mythbuntu mythweb.
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Isn't this just a bug anyway? If it can detect the use of a mobile
device and switch to that minimal layout, then it should just switch
back when you're on a full featured browser again.

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Aug 12, 2008, 8:49 AM

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Re: MythWeb gone minimalist after Palm TX browse [In reply to]

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:57 AM, Ashley Bostock <abostock[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Isn't this just a bug anyway? If it can detect the use of a mobile
> device and switch to that minimal layout, then it should just switch
> back when you're on a full featured browser again.
>
> Ash

It's supposed to. There was a discussion about that here:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/340260#340260

The code that determines whether or not the user agent is mobile is here:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/release-0-21-fixes/mythplugins/mythweb/includes/skin.php

and

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/release-0-21-fixes/mythplugins/mythweb/includes/mobile.php

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Aug 12, 2008, 11:36 AM

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Re: MythWeb gone minimalist after Palm TX browse [In reply to]

On 08/12/2008 04:30 AM, Nick Rout wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Brad DerManouelian wrote:
>
>> On Aug 11, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Nick Rout wrote:
>>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>>>
>>>>> This has been covered a lot. Append ?RESET_TMPL=true to the end of
>>>>> your mythweb address.
>>>>>
>>>> Probably covered a lot because people give out the fish (RESET_TMPL)
>>>> rather than teaching to fish (README). ;)
>>>>
>>> Perhaps if there was some way of knowing from mythweb that there is a
>>> README there, like a link in the mythweb interface?
> Frankly a web page

You mean web /application/?

> doesn't normally need a README so I never thought to look.
>

Just like any other good application, a web application should have a
README to answer questions users may have when things don't work as
expected. ;)

> Its not there on my mythbuntu mythweb.

Then the MythBuntu packagers are probably moving it to some doc
directory somewhere.

I know some packagers had problems with allowing access to the README
because of "security" concerns, so you'll have to learn how your distro
configures things. Regardless, the MythWeb README should be installed
on any system that has MythWeb.

Mike
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