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newbury at mandamus

Aug 6, 2008, 1:00 PM

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OT: Track Total Downloads for Bandwidth Limit

My house is halfway between 2 local switches and I get only 288 kbps up
or down with DSL.

I'm wondering about getting Rogers "Portable Internet Basic" which would
be twice as fast at the same price. However that package has a Monthly
Bandwidth Activity Limit of 10GB.

Can anyone suggest a program which will allow me to track and total my
downloads (including daily SchedulesDirect mythfilldatabase). There must
be some sort of program, and I may end up with a bruise on my forehead
when someone points out the obvious to me, but at the moment, I'm stumped.

Geoff

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myth at dermanouelian

Aug 6, 2008, 1:13 PM

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Re: OT: Track Total Downloads for Bandwidth Limit [In reply to]

On Aug 6, 2008, at 1:00 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:

> My house is halfway between 2 local switches and I get only 288 kbps
> up
> or down with DSL.
>
> I'm wondering about getting Rogers "Portable Internet Basic" which
> would
> be twice as fast at the same price. However that package has a Monthly
> Bandwidth Activity Limit of 10GB.
>
> Can anyone suggest a program which will allow me to track and total my
> downloads (including daily SchedulesDirect mythfilldatabase). There
> must
> be some sort of program, and I may end up with a bruise on my forehead
> when someone points out the obvious to me, but at the moment, I'm
> stumped.

Proxy through Squid (http://www.squid-cache.org) Then you can grep
your logs and total your bandwidth. There might even be a free
reporting tool that does that. (My old company made an expensive web/
ftp/streaming server/proxy log reporting tool so I never looked at
what info the free ones could give - I just always use that.)

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bigwavedave at gmail

Aug 6, 2008, 1:14 PM

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Re: OT: Track Total Downloads for Bandwidth Limit [In reply to]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:00 PM, R. G. Newbury <newbury[at]mandamus.org> wrote:
> My house is halfway between 2 local switches and I get only 288 kbps up
> or down with DSL.
>
> I'm wondering about getting Rogers "Portable Internet Basic" which would
> be twice as fast at the same price. However that package has a Monthly
> Bandwidth Activity Limit of 10GB.
>
> Can anyone suggest a program which will allow me to track and total my
> downloads (including daily SchedulesDirect mythfilldatabase). There must
> be some sort of program, and I may end up with a bruise on my forehead
> when someone points out the obvious to me, but at the moment, I'm stumped.
>
> Geoff
>

I would recommend running something like vnStat (
http://humdi.net/vnstat/ ). Ideally you would run it on a box that
has all internet traffic flowing through it. If you ran it on your
MythTV box, you would need to take into account any remote
frontends/backends that would be transfering data between it.

Dave
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harford at gmail

Aug 6, 2008, 1:15 PM

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Re: OT: Track Total Downloads for Bandwidth Limit [In reply to]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:00 PM, R. G. Newbury <newbury[at]mandamus.org> wrote:
>
> Can anyone suggest a program which will allow me to track and total my
> downloads (including daily SchedulesDirect mythfilldatabase). There must
> be some sort of program, and I may end up with a bruise on my forehead
> when someone points out the obvious to me, but at the moment, I'm stumped.


/sbin/ifconfig?

But if they have a 10GB cap, there should be a way to get that
information from your provider...
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beww at beww

Aug 6, 2008, 1:16 PM

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Re: OT: Track Total Downloads for Bandwidth Limit [In reply to]

R. G. Newbury wrote:
> My house is halfway between 2 local switches and I get only 288 kbps up
> or down with DSL.
>
> I'm wondering about getting Rogers "Portable Internet Basic" which would
> be twice as fast at the same price. However that package has a Monthly
> Bandwidth Activity Limit of 10GB.
>
> Can anyone suggest a program which will allow me to track and total my
> downloads (including daily SchedulesDirect mythfilldatabase). There must
> be some sort of program, and I may end up with a bruise on my forehead
> when someone points out the obvious to me, but at the moment, I'm stumped.

I believe that Roger's basic service has only 64k upstream speed, pretty
limited. The speeds quoted for downstream are "up to", and subject to
major slowdowns during peak usage periods.

I've also read of folks complaining that rain and other bad weather can
cause slowdowns or actual outages. Personally I would refuse to
purchase any service with a bandwidth cap, mainly to discourage that
sort of anti-social behavior.

As long as you are aware of the limitations, and are OK with that, go
for it.

As for keeping track of usage, ifconfig will tell you the total packets
through an interface.

beww
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newbury at mandamus

Aug 6, 2008, 1:54 PM

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Re: OT: Track Total Downloads for Bandwidth Limit [In reply to]

Alex Harford wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:00 PM, R. G. Newbury <newbury[at]mandamus.org> wrote:
>> Can anyone suggest a program which will allow me to track and total my
>> downloads (including daily SchedulesDirect mythfilldatabase). There must
>> be some sort of program, and I may end up with a bruise on my forehead
>> when someone points out the obvious to me, but at the moment, I'm stumped.
>
>
> /sbin/ifconfig?
>
> But if they have a 10GB cap, there should be a way to get that
> information from your provider...

No ROGERS has a cap and twice the speed. I presently do not have a cap,
but I have a slow link. I'd like to know what I use, FIRST.

Geoff
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newbury at mandamus

Aug 6, 2008, 2:01 PM

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Re: OT: Track Total Downloads for Bandwidth Limit [In reply to]

Brian Wood wrote:
> R. G. Newbury wrote:
>> My house is halfway between 2 local switches and I get only 288 kbps up
>> or down with DSL.
>>
>> I'm wondering about getting Rogers "Portable Internet Basic" which would
>> be twice as fast at the same price. However that package has a Monthly
>> Bandwidth Activity Limit of 10GB.
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a program which will allow me to track and total my
>> downloads (including daily SchedulesDirect mythfilldatabase). There must
>> be some sort of program, and I may end up with a bruise on my forehead
>> when someone points out the obvious to me, but at the moment, I'm stumped.
>
> I believe that Roger's basic service has only 64k upstream speed, pretty
> limited. The speeds quoted for downstream are "up to", and subject to
> major slowdowns during peak usage periods.

I don't care about upstream at all. And yes, downstream needs to be
administered with together with copious quantities of salt. But twice
the speed at the same price does sound nice...


> I've also read of folks complaining that rain and other bad weather can
> cause slowdowns or actual outages. Personally I would refuse to
> purchase any service with a bandwidth cap, mainly to discourage that
> sort of anti-social behavior.

True, And I do not KNOW if there is an antenna on the cell tower which I
can see from my roof, but I think so.

Yes, I don't like the idea of a cap either. You are correct: it is
anti-social. Moreover it is clearly a gouging control. But if I never
get close to the cap, it is as if it did not exist.

> As long as you are aware of the limitations, and are OK with that, go
> for it.
>
> As for keeping track of usage, ifconfig will tell you the total packets
> through an interface.

Well ifconfig is a little on the raw side of what I was thinking
about.And it is unclear what period is being reported:

UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:14658684 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:18058565 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:452591535 (431.6 MiB) TX bytes:1497872051 (1.3 GiB)


But vnstat looks interesting. Thanks to whoever recommended it.

Geoff


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halcyon at obfus

Aug 6, 2008, 2:02 PM

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Re: OT: Track Total Downloads for Bandwidth Limit [In reply to]

> Alex Harford wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:00 PM, R. G. Newbury <newbury[at]mandamus.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Can anyone suggest a program which will allow me to track and total my
>>> downloads (including daily SchedulesDirect mythfilldatabase). There
>>> must
>>> be some sort of program, and I may end up with a bruise on my forehead
>>> when someone points out the obvious to me, but at the moment, I'm
>>> stumped.
>>
>>
>> /sbin/ifconfig?
>>
>> But if they have a 10GB cap, there should be a way to get that
>> information from your provider...
>
> No ROGERS has a cap and twice the speed. I presently do not have a cap,
> but I have a slow link. I'd like to know what I use, FIRST.
>
> Geoff
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Does your current DSL/Cable router/modem have web management that might
give you this info? Some wireless routers will let you flash the firmware
that would include tools like what you're looking for (Tomato firmware,
for example) Otherwise, unless you have a machine that only internet
traffic passes through, or an interface that's used just for internet, it
might not be easy to discern what's local and what's internet traffic.

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richardwoelk at yahoo

Aug 6, 2008, 7:47 PM

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Re: OT: Track Total Downloads for Bandwidth Limit [In reply to]

R. G. Newbury wrote:
> Brian Wood wrote:
>
>> R. G. Newbury wrote:
>>
>>> My house is halfway between 2 local switches and I get only 288 kbps up
>>> or down with DSL.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering about getting Rogers "Portable Internet Basic" which would
>>> be twice as fast at the same price. However that package has a Monthly
>>> Bandwidth Activity Limit of 10GB.
>>>
>>> Can anyone suggest a program which will allow me to track and total my
>>> downloads (including daily SchedulesDirect mythfilldatabase). There must
>>> be some sort of program, and I may end up with a bruise on my forehead
>>> when someone points out the obvious to me, but at the moment, I'm stumped.
>>>
>> I believe that Roger's basic service has only 64k upstream speed, pretty
>> limited. The speeds quoted for downstream are "up to", and subject to
>> major slowdowns during peak usage periods.
>>
>
> I don't care about upstream at all. And yes, downstream needs to be
> administered with together with copious quantities of salt. But twice
> the speed at the same price does sound nice...
>
>
>
>> I've also read of folks complaining that rain and other bad weather can
>> cause slowdowns or actual outages. Personally I would refuse to
>> purchase any service with a bandwidth cap, mainly to discourage that
>> sort of anti-social behavior.
>>
>
> True, And I do not KNOW if there is an antenna on the cell tower which I
> can see from my roof, but I think so.
>
> Yes, I don't like the idea of a cap either. You are correct: it is
> anti-social. Moreover it is clearly a gouging control. But if I never
> get close to the cap, it is as if it did not exist.
>
>
>> As long as you are aware of the limitations, and are OK with that, go
>> for it.
>>
>> As for keeping track of usage, ifconfig will tell you the total packets
>> through an interface.
>>
>
> Well ifconfig is a little on the raw side of what I was thinking
> about.And it is unclear what period is being reported:
>
> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:14658684 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:18058565 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> RX bytes:452591535 (431.6 MiB) TX bytes:1497872051 (1.3 GiB)
>
>
> But vnstat looks interesting. Thanks to whoever recommended it.
>
> Geoff
>
>

gkrellm reads the ifconfig bytes and keeps its own records categorized
by month, week, & day. Click on the little grey button at the bottom
right of the eth graph

I have a linux computer used as my internet router, so its outside link
is all the internet I use.

10GB cap, ouch, I'd have a lot of trouble staying under that, my average
is around 80GB, and I've hit 300GB in a month

HTH
- Richard


meatwad2021 at gmail

Aug 7, 2008, 5:21 PM

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Re: OT: Track Total Downloads for Bandwidth Limit [In reply to]

Brad DerManouelian wrote:

> Proxy through Squid (http://www.squid-cache.org) Then you can grep
> your logs and total your bandwidth. There might even be a free
> reporting tool that does that...

....and combine that with Stuart Larson's idea of a managed/jeeped
router. The OpenWRT project lists a considerable variety of compatible
devices like the cheapo ASUS, the Buffalo Airstation and much of the
Linksys WRT-series.

Basically a little tiny debian appliance you can manage with or without
a web interface. Pop in Squid and have it mail your usage logs to you.

--
mw
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newbury at mandamus

Aug 7, 2008, 9:49 PM

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Re: OT: Track Total Downloads for Bandwidth Limit [In reply to]

Richard Woelk wrote:
>
>
> R. G. Newbury wrote:

>> But vnstat looks interesting. Thanks to whoever recommended it.
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>>
>
> gkrellm reads the ifconfig bytes and keeps its own records categorized
> by month, week, & day. Click on the little grey button at the bottom
> right of the eth graph
>
> I have a linux computer used as my internet router, so its outside link
> is all the internet I use.
>
> 10GB cap, ouch, I'd have a lot of trouble staying under that, my average
> is around 80GB, and I've hit 300GB in a month
>
Thanks for this one too. And yes 'ouch'. I *know* I would be well over
the cap for my office machine + laptop. I think I will be over with the
usage at home for the mythbox plus the laptop. So I want to know what
numbers I am really looking at. I can easily live with what I have if
the price for twice the speed is four times the cost!

Geoff
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