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klein.aaron at gmail

Jul 22, 2008, 1:29 PM

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Good future proof pci tuner card

I'm looking to expand the cards in my myth box. Right now I have just
one analog NTSC tuner. I would like a Hauppauge 500 or some 150's or
350 and a combo of the others. I know all of those cards have analog
tuners so they technically wont work after Feb 2009. I know the FCC
will require cable providers to continue to send analog signals until
some time there after but I want to try to future proof my box as best
I can by getting a card with not only an analog tuner but the ability
to tune in digital channels. What good cards are there that support
both signals that are fairly economical. I would like something with
a remote interface that works well with myth as well.
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drescherjm at gmail

Jul 22, 2008, 1:37 PM

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Re: Good future proof pci tuner card [In reply to]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Aaron Klein <klein.aaron[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm looking to expand the cards in my myth box. Right now I have just
> one analog NTSC tuner. I would like a Hauppauge 500 or some 150's or
> 350 and a combo of the others. I know all of those cards have analog
> tuners so they technically wont work after Feb 2009. I know the FCC
> will require cable providers to continue to send analog signals until
> some time there after but I want to try to future proof my box as best
> I can by getting a card with not only an analog tuner but the ability
> to tune in digital channels. What good cards are there that support
> both signals that are fairly economical. I would like something with
> a remote interface that works well with myth as well.
>
I use a Kworld 115 for digital / HD. It also has an analog tuner but I
do not use that since it is not a hardware tuner and I have other
hauppage cards for analog. I believe I paid $35 for it a year or so
ago.

John
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drescherjm at gmail

Jul 22, 2008, 1:40 PM

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Re: Good future proof pci tuner card [In reply to]

> I use a Kworld 115 for digital / HD. It also has an analog tuner but I
> do not use that since it is not a hardware tuner and I have other
> hauppage cards for analog. I believe I paid $35 for it a year or so
> ago.
>
One thing I forgot to mention. That is all but 7 or 8 channels (locals
+ pbs) on my cable are encrypted and you can not decrypt so I only get
these few stations on my kworld tuner.

John
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kkuphal at gmail

Jul 22, 2008, 1:53 PM

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Re: Good future proof pci tuner card [In reply to]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Aaron Klein <klein.aaron[at]gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm looking to expand the cards in my myth box. Right now I have just
> one analog NTSC tuner. I would like a Hauppauge 500 or some 150's or
> 350 and a combo of the others. I know all of those cards have analog
> tuners so they technically wont work after Feb 2009.

Just to clarify, it won't work for *broadcast antenna* reception after Feb
2009 without a converter box attached to it.

> I know the FCC
> will require cable providers to continue to send analog signals until
> some time there after

Actually, I don't believe there is any requirement for cable operators
either way and many are starting the transition to digital requiring cable
boxes for tuning. The 500/150 will still work with those cable boxes via
coax or s-video with an IR blaster for channel changing.

> but I want to try to future proof my box as best
> I can by getting a card with not only an analog tuner but the ability
> to tune in digital channels. What good cards are there that support
> both signals that are fairly economical. I would like something with
> a remote interface that works well with myth as well.

I'm sure others can recommend various cards but the 500/150 will still be a
viable solution for non-digital recording long after 2009. My gut would say
live with your current tuners until 2009 and then invest in digital-only
solutions like the HD HomeRun (ethernet based) to avoid the whole PCI/PCI-E
situation on various boards.

Kevin

allen.edwards at oldpaloalto

Jul 22, 2008, 1:54 PM

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Re: Good future proof pci tuner card [In reply to]

Aaron Klein wrote:
> I'm looking to expand the cards in my myth box. Right now I have just
> one analog NTSC tuner. I would like a Hauppauge 500 or some 150's or
> 350 and a combo of the others. I know all of those cards have analog
> tuners so they technically wont work after Feb 2009. I know the FCC
> will require cable providers to continue to send analog signals until
> some time there after but I want to try to future proof my box as best
> I can by getting a card with not only an analog tuner but the ability
> to tune in digital channels. What good cards are there that support
> both signals that are fairly economical. I would like something with
> a remote interface that works well with myth as well.
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Just a point, the FCC requires that cable companies put the local ota
channels in analog unless they switch the entire cable to digital.

Allen

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steve at heistand

Jul 22, 2008, 2:05 PM

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Re: Good future proof pci tuner card [In reply to]

> I'm looking to expand the cards in my myth box. Right now I have just
> one analog NTSC tuner. I would like a Hauppauge 500 or some 150's or
> 350 and a combo of the others. I know all of those cards have analog
> tuners so they technically wont work after Feb 2009. I know the FCC
> will require cable providers to continue to send analog signals until
> some time there after but I want to try to future proof my box as best
> I can by getting a card with not only an analog tuner but the ability
> to tune in digital channels. What good cards are there that support
> both signals that are fairly economical. I would like something with
> a remote interface that works well with myth as well.

there is always the Hauppauge 1212 (HD-PVR) that records off of component
inputs which until mpaa makes the device illegal is certainly future proof..

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klein.aaron at gmail

Jul 23, 2008, 7:26 AM

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Re: Good future proof pci tuner card [In reply to]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Steve Heistand <steve[at]heistand.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking to expand the cards in my myth box. Right now I have just
>> one analog NTSC tuner. I would like a Hauppauge 500 or some 150's or
>> 350 and a combo of the others. I know all of those cards have analog
>> tuners so they technically wont work after Feb 2009. I know the FCC
>> will require cable providers to continue to send analog signals until
>> some time there after but I want to try to future proof my box as best
>> I can by getting a card with not only an analog tuner but the ability
>> to tune in digital channels. What good cards are there that support
>> both signals that are fairly economical. I would like something with
>> a remote interface that works well with myth as well.
>
> there is always the Hauppauge 1212 (HD-PVR) that records off of component
> inputs which until mpaa makes the device illegal is certainly future proof..
>
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I will be connecting myth to our local cable system.
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trag at io

Jul 23, 2008, 9:45 AM

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Re: Good future proof pci tuner card [In reply to]

> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:37:30 -0400
> From: "John Drescher" <drescherjm[at]gmail.com>

> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Aaron Klein <klein.aaron[at]gmail.com>
> wrote:

> I use a Kworld 115 for digital / HD. It also has an analog tuner but I
> do not use that since it is not a hardware tuner and I have other
> hauppage cards for analog. I believe I paid $35 for it a year or so
> ago.
>

The Kworld ATSC 115 was $35 at Newegg, but within the last few weeks they
appear to have stopped carrying it. Searching on Froogle (Google
Shopping) turns up nothing less than $69 now. I bought four of them for
my new system. Now I kind of wish I'd bought a spare, just in case.

Jeff Walther

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jon.the.wise.gdrive at gmail

Jul 30, 2008, 1:11 AM

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Re: Good future proof pci tuner card [In reply to]

I've had good luck with my pinnacle PCI HD cards (got 2 for $69 a
piece at best buy 3 months ago)

~Jon
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klein.aaron at gmail

Jul 30, 2008, 6:12 AM

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Re: Good future proof pci tuner card [In reply to]

does this pinnacle card have hardware encoding or software encoding?

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:11 AM, Jon Bishop
<jon.the.wise.gdrive[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> I've had good luck with my pinnacle PCI HD cards (got 2 for $69 a
> piece at best buy 3 months ago)
>
> ~Jon
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jon.the.wise.gdrive at gmail

Jul 30, 2008, 9:45 AM

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Re: Good future proof pci tuner card [In reply to]

>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:11 AM, Jon Bishop
> <jon.the.wise.gdrive[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've had good luck with my pinnacle PCI HD cards (got 2 for $69 a
>> piece at best buy 3 months ago)
>>
>> ~Jon
>> On Jul 30, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Aaron Klein wrote:
>>
>>> does this pinnacle card have hardware encoding or software encoding?

Software encoding to capture SD. HD doesn't get encoded, it comes over
the air as an mpeg file and just dumps the output to your hard drive.
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