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gmitch at woodlea

Jul 21, 2008, 3:02 PM

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Re: Integrating non-traditional program sources into MythTV (won't tell you what it 'was:')

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MythTV (won't tell you what it 'was:')

<snippage>

> Do you really care how the show got on your computer?

Legally would be nice...:)

G

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nick.rout at gmail

Jul 21, 2008, 3:28 PM

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Re: Integrating non-traditional program sources into MythTV (won't tell you what it 'was:') [In reply to]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Graham Mitchell <gmitch[at]woodlea.com> wrote:
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces[at]mythtv.org
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces[at]mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Nick Rout
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:58 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Integrating non-traditional program sources into
> MythTV (won't tell you what it 'was:')
>
> <snippage>
>
>> Do you really care how the show got on your computer?
>
> Legally would be nice...:)
>

Yes naturally, but I wasn't suggesting otherwise. I am suggesting that
there is no inherent difference in watching a show you got via an rss
feed and a show you recorded from your local network affiliate.

In fact in NZ the rss feed shows (that are put there for download by
their creators) are more legal to keep long term than stuff recorded
from traditional TV (that become infringing if they are kept for "any
longer than is reasonably necessary for viewing or listening to the
recording at a more convenient time")
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jedi at mishnet

Jul 22, 2008, 5:44 PM

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Re: Integrating non-traditional program sources into MythTV (won't tell you what it 'was:') [In reply to]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 02:33:16PM -0700, Brad DerManouelian wrote:
> On Jul 22, 2008, at 2:09 PM, jedi wrote:
>
> >> It would be nice if there was an "Add this file with this metadata to
> >> Watch Recordings" API in the Perl bindings. Just sayin'...
> >
> > Better still would be a stored procedure.
>
> They only work in MySQL 5+ and you'd still need a perl binding to
> utilize it.

That's just plain silly.
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myth at dermanouelian

Jul 22, 2008, 5:47 PM

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Re: Integrating non-traditional program sources into MythTV (won't tell you what it 'was:') [In reply to]

On Jul 22, 2008, at 5:44 PM, jedi wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 02:33:16PM -0700, Brad DerManouelian wrote:
>> On Jul 22, 2008, at 2:09 PM, jedi wrote:
>>
>>>> It would be nice if there was an "Add this file with this
>>>> metadata to
>>>> Watch Recordings" API in the Perl bindings. Just sayin'...
>>>
>>> Better still would be a stored procedure.
>>
>> They only work in MySQL 5+ and you'd still need a perl binding to
>> utilize it.
>
> That's just plain silly.

Funny, that's exactly how I was going to respond to your email but I
came back with facts instead. ;)

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matt at mossholder

Jul 22, 2008, 6:20 PM

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Re: Integrating non-traditional program sources into MythTV (won't tell you what it 'was:') [In reply to]

----- "Brad DerManouelian" <myth[at]dermanouelian.com> wrote:

> On Jul 22, 2008, at 5:44 PM, jedi wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 02:33:16PM -0700, Brad DerManouelian wrote:
> >> On Jul 22, 2008, at 2:09 PM, jedi wrote:
> >>
> >>>> It would be nice if there was an "Add this file with this
> >>>> metadata to
> >>>> Watch Recordings" API in the Perl bindings. Just sayin'...
> >>>
> >>> Better still would be a stored procedure.
> >>
> >> They only work in MySQL 5+ and you'd still need a perl binding to
> >> utilize it.
> >
> > That's just plain silly.
>
> Funny, that's exactly how I was going to respond to your email but I
>
> came back with facts instead. ;)
>

You wouldn't need perl bindings, per se... you would just need mysql bindings, which most languages have these days.

--Matt
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myth at dermanouelian

Jul 22, 2008, 10:41 PM

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Re: Integrating non-traditional program sources into MythTV (won't tell you what it 'was:') [In reply to]

On Jul 22, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Matt Mossholder wrote:

>>>> They only work in MySQL 5+ and you'd still need a perl binding to
>>>> utilize it.
>>>
>>> That's just plain silly.
>>
>> Funny, that's exactly how I was going to respond to your email but I
>>
>> came back with facts instead. ;)
>>
>
> You wouldn't need perl bindings, per se... you would just need mysql
> bindings, which most languages have these days.

You'd need a way to send metadata. You don't *need* perl bindings at
all but we all remember how terrible it was when all perl scripts
simply used mysql bindings for everything. Or do you want to go back
to a time when the database changes and all supporting scripts have to
be updated to accommodate?

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matt at mossholder

Jul 23, 2008, 4:36 AM

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Re: Integrating non-traditional program sources into MythTV (won't tell you what it 'was:') [In reply to]

----- "Brad DerManouelian" <myth[at]dermanouelian.com> wrote:

> On Jul 22, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Matt Mossholder wrote:
> > You wouldn't need perl bindings, per se... you would just need mysql
>
> > bindings, which most languages have these days.
>
> You'd need a way to send metadata. You don't *need* perl bindings at
>
> all but we all remember how terrible it was when all perl scripts
> simply used mysql bindings for everything. Or do you want to go back
>
> to a time when the database changes and all supporting scripts have to
>
> be updated to accommodate?
>

If we were using stored procedures, you would be eliminating many of those
issues by having the smarts that were previously in the bindings
resided within the database.

I don't really care, I was just pointing out that perl bindings are
just one means to an end.

--Matt

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