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lindsay.mathieson at optusnet

Jul 10, 2008, 8:08 PM

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SD/HD Recording Priority Setup

Question re recording priorities which I think I have setup
correctly.

Here in Oz most of the FTA channels just simulcast their SD
content upscaled on HD - often poorly upscaled :) so
obviously I'd rather just record the SD content.

Occasionally some programmes are broadcast as true HD in
which case I'd prefer to record HD instead. The shepherd epg
grabber does a good job of setting the HD flag for those
programmes

So what I've done is set up a +1 priority for all SD
channels and a Global +2 HDTV Priority, so SD will be
recorded by default unless the programme is flagged true HD.
Seems to work fine so far.

Is this the correct way to do this sort of setup?

Thanks,

Lindsay
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david at istwok

Jul 11, 2008, 7:40 AM

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Re: SD/HD Recording Priority Setup [In reply to]

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 01:08:58PM +1000, lindsay.mathieson wrote:
> So what I've done is set up a +1 priority for all SD
> channels and a Global +2 HDTV Priority, so SD will be
> recorded by default unless the programme is flagged true HD.
> Seems to work fine so far.
>
> Is this the correct way to do this sort of setup?

Yes, that's a reasonable way to do it. I used to do the same thing
but I lowered the HD channels to -1 instead of raising the SD channels
to +1.

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lindsay.mathieson at optusnet

Jul 11, 2008, 7:33 PM

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Re: SD/HD Recording Priority Setup [In reply to]

David Engel wrote:
> Yes, that's a reasonable way to do it. I used to do the same thing
> but I lowered the HD channels to -1 instead of raising the SD channels
> to +1.
>

Thanks David, that seems more elegant too.

Cheers,

Lindsay
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greg.newton at exemail

Jul 15, 2008, 5:37 AM

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Re: SD/HD Recording Priority Setup [In reply to]

2008/7/12 Lindsay Mathieson <lindsay.mathieson[at]optusnet.com.au>:
> David Engel wrote:
>> Yes, that's a reasonable way to do it. I used to do the same thing
>> but I lowered the HD channels to -1 instead of raising the SD channels
>> to +1.
>>
>
> Thanks David, that seems more elegant too.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lindsay
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OK - you got me. Where do you do the "Global HDTV +2" bit?
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greg.newton at exemail

Jul 15, 2008, 6:15 AM

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Re: SD/HD Recording Priority Setup [In reply to]

2008/7/15 Greg Newton <greg.newton[at]exemail.com.au>:
> 2008/7/12 Lindsay Mathieson <lindsay.mathieson[at]optusnet.com.au>:
>> David Engel wrote:
>>> Yes, that's a reasonable way to do it. I used to do the same thing
>>> but I lowered the HD channels to -1 instead of raising the SD channels
>>> to +1.

>
> OK - you got me. Where do you do the "Global HDTV +2" bit?
>

Oops, found it.
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jedi at mishnet

Jul 15, 2008, 10:26 AM

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Re: SD/HD Recording Priority Setup [In reply to]

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:37:11PM +1000, Greg Newton wrote:
> 2008/7/12 Lindsay Mathieson <lindsay.mathieson[at]optusnet.com.au>:
> > David Engel wrote:
> >> Yes, that's a reasonable way to do it. I used to do the same thing
> >> but I lowered the HD channels to -1 instead of raising the SD channels
> >> to +1.
> >>
> >
> > Thanks David, that seems more elegant too.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Lindsay
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> >
>
> OK - you got me. Where do you do the "Global HDTV +2" bit?

Dunno about the GUI. I like to do this directly.

This works well for my OTA channels.

select channum,callsign,visible,recpriority
from channel where visible=1 and channum like '%-%';

This should be good in general (assuming names mean somthing).

select channum,callsign,visible,recpriority
from channel where visible=1 and callsign like '%HD%';

You can also key in on chanid which will be prefixed with the input id.

+--------+---------+----------+---------+-------------+
| chanid | channum | callsign | visible | recpriority |
+--------+---------+----------+---------+-------------+
| 2121 | 12-1 | CBS12HD | 1 | 2 |
| 2123 | 12-3 | FOX12HD | 1 | 2 |
| 2131 | 13-1 | KERA-HD | 1 | 10 |
| 3271 | 698 | CSNETHD | 1 | 0 |
| 3282 | 672 | FSM3HD | 1 | 0 |
+--------+---------+----------+---------+-------------+

Is there a flag as such for HD channels? That would be
a handy thing to have for mixed environments like DirectTV.
You can't always count on convenient naming...
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david at istwok

Jul 15, 2008, 12:45 PM

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Re: SD/HD Recording Priority Setup [In reply to]

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:26:50PM -0500, jedi wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:37:11PM +1000, Greg Newton wrote:
> > OK - you got me. Where do you do the "Global HDTV +2" bit?

Utilities/Setup > Setup > TV Settings > Recording Priorities > Custom Priority

> Dunno about the GUI. I like to do this directly.
>
> This works well for my OTA channels.
>
> select channum,callsign,visible,recpriority
> from channel where visible=1 and channum like '%-%';
>
> This should be good in general (assuming names mean somthing).
>
> select channum,callsign,visible,recpriority
> from channel where visible=1 and callsign like '%HD%';
> [...]
> Is there a flag as such for HD channels? That would be

No.

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greg.newton at exemail

Jul 15, 2008, 8:41 PM

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Re: SD/HD Recording Priority Setup [In reply to]

2008/7/16 David Engel <david[at]istwok.net>:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:26:50PM -0500, jedi wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:37:11PM +1000, Greg Newton wrote:
>> > OK - you got me. Where do you do the "Global HDTV +2" bit?
>
> Utilities/Setup > Setup > TV Settings > Recording Priorities > Custom Priority
>

I used:

Utilities/Setup > Setup > TV Settings > Recording Priorities > Set
Recording Priorities / HDTV Recording Priority = 2

which was easier for this bear of little brain. This works beautifully
- HD channels will not be recorded when the program is "simulcast" on
an SD channel, unless the content is flagged as HDTV. As originally
noted by Lindsay and David:

>> So what I've done is set up a +1 priority for all SD
>> channels and a Global +2 HDTV Priority, so SD will be
>> recorded by default unless the programme is flagged true HD.
>> Seems to work fine so far.
>>
>> Is this the correct way to do this sort of setup?
>
>Yes, that's a reasonable way to do it. I used to do the same thing
>but I lowered the HD channels to -1 instead of raising the SD channels
>to +1.

It seems this is the opposite of what jedi was seeking (raising the
priority of HD channels if I read it correctly).

Curiously for some programs without episode information, I have to
change from "Episode + Description" to "Episode then Description" to
correctly identify duplicates. I am struggling to see what the
difference could be.

Cheers
Greg |;^)
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david at istwok

Jul 16, 2008, 8:21 AM

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Re: SD/HD Recording Priority Setup [In reply to]

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:41:55PM +1000, Greg Newton wrote:
> 2008/7/16 David Engel <david[at]istwok.net>:
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:26:50PM -0500, jedi wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:37:11PM +1000, Greg Newton wrote:
> >> > OK - you got me. Where do you do the "Global HDTV +2" bit?
> >
> > Utilities/Setup > Setup > TV Settings > Recording Priorities > Custom Priority
> >
>
> I used:
>
> Utilities/Setup > Setup > TV Settings > Recording Priorities > Set
> Recording Priorities / HDTV Recording Priority = 2
>
> which was easier for this bear of little brain. This works beautifully

Ah, I thought Bruce had removed that when he added the custom
priorities so I didn't even look for it. Yes, that is easier in this
specific case.

> >> So what I've done is set up a +1 priority for all SD
> >> channels and a Global +2 HDTV Priority, so SD will be
> >> recorded by default unless the programme is flagged true HD.
> >> Seems to work fine so far.
> >>
> >> Is this the correct way to do this sort of setup?
> >
> >Yes, that's a reasonable way to do it. I used to do the same thing
> >but I lowered the HD channels to -1 instead of raising the SD channels
> >to +1.
>
> It seems this is the opposite of what jedi was seeking (raising the
> priority of HD channels if I read it correctly).

No, I believe the end result is the same. The absolute priorities
change but the relative differences, which is what matters, is the
same.

Jedi David
HD program on HD channel +2 +1
Any program on SD channel +1 0
SD program on HD channel 0 -1

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