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pepebuho at gmail

May 26, 2008, 12:10 PM

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F7 to F8 or F7 to F9

Hi
I heard so much negative stuff about F8 and it's audio setup that i decided
to stay at F7 level. ( I learned the hard way to not trouble trouble until
trouble troubles me
regarding my MythTv setup. ). With F7 reaching EOL, I wonder if it is ok to
go into the newly released F9 or should I take my chances with F8?

Is mythtv working fine under F9?

Thanks

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douglasw0 at gmail

May 26, 2008, 1:58 PM

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Re: F7 to F8 or F7 to F9 [In reply to]

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Javier Perez <pepebuho [at] gmail> wrote:

> Hi
> I heard so much negative stuff about F8 and it's audio setup that i decided
> to stay at F7 level. ( I learned the hard way to not trouble trouble until
> trouble troubles me
> regarding my MythTv setup. ). With F7 reaching EOL, I wonder if it is ok to
> go into the newly released F9 or should I take my chances with F8?
>
> Is mythtv working fine under F9?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> ------------------------------
> /\_/\
> |O O| pepebuho [at] pananet
> ~~~~ Javier Perez
> ~~~~ While the night runs
> ~~~~ toward the day...
> m m Pepebuho watches
> from his high perch.
>
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>
>
The end result is: NO it's not.

I JUST did this. Tried to take a MythTV FC6 Box to F9 and it was a failure
(well, partial failure at least).

First the upgrade path from FC6 -> F9 was junk, the "upgrade" simply didn't
work, graphics didn't work well, etc.

So I then reformatted and went through the process. All went well till I
came to the NVidia drivers. Seems, F9 is too new at this point, NVidia
simply would not load, not 192 nor the next version (beta, downloaded from
NVidia themselves). The 192 build has known issues and has a patch, but the
patch didn't bring nvidia up, nor did the beta drivers that supposedly fix
the issue (and cause other issues).

This was an attempt as of last week Tuesday? Monday? Something like that
so it's about a week old info.

I have an NVidia 6200 in the box, and tried both Axel's driver as well as a
download from Nvida (both patched 192 + beta).

Now, I will admit something: I have 2 weeks to get basically my entire house
network re-installed and re-setup/upgraded and I really didn't have the time
nor the inclination to go screwing around with the Nvidia drivers. I can
tell you that as of a week ago it didn't work "out of the box". That may be
different now.

I AM NOT trying to get into distro wars at this point but for me, I switched
over to MythBuntu, had the system up within about 6 hours. It's not perfect
by any means (see my post about MythBuntu + SB Live Sound) but it works and
works well at this point, and given that it's on a 3 year support and
installs by CD (it only includes like 20 programs, literally, and most of
those are configuration applications) within about 15 minutes it was
something I couldn't pass up...

YMMV, NVidia may be working by this point, or I may have just done something
wrong since I didn't do a whole lot of debug with it, but for me it did not
work out of the box and Nvidia has known issues with the currently
distributed production driver with F9.

--Douglas Wagner

j.ostheller at gmail

May 26, 2008, 4:44 PM

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Re: F7 to F8 or F7 to F9 [In reply to]

For what its worth... A while ago I bought a Hiper PC barbones
frontend (like this one in the link, except it is the next rev on the
mb so it has HDMI instead of DVI-D)

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article756-page2.html

I tried several different distros and resulted in countless problems
on all (most probably due to the integrated ATI graphics). I have been
fairly busy to really get into it and figure out the real problems
with the system so its been sitting on my shelf for months. Anyways...
Fedora 9 installed Flawlessly. On first boot up it recognized
everything and booted up in 1080P!!! Super excited to have to do
minimal work to get such a sweet PC running. So I would recommend
Fedora 9. love it.

On a tangent.... I am very sensitive to fan noise, so I ripped out all
the system fans except for one on the cpu and maybe 1 exhust... first
thing I did was setup lm sensors because I was worried about heat.
(keep in mind that my CPU heatsink is like a 1U heatsink because of
the small size of this unit)... Anyways after several hours at idle my
CPU was at 26 degree C!!!!! 26! Coming from someone who has done most
of my work with those damn Prescott P4's, im in love with this current
gen of processors. Much easier to keep your system cool and quiet. It
rules!

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Javier Perez <pepebuho [at] gmail> wrote:
> Hi
> I heard so much negative stuff about F8 and it's audio setup that i decided
> to stay at F7 level. ( I learned the hard way to not trouble trouble until
> trouble troubles me
> regarding my MythTv setup. ). With F7 reaching EOL, I wonder if it is ok to
> go into the newly released F9 or should I take my chances with F8?
>
> Is mythtv working fine under F9?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> ------------------------------
> /\_/\
> |O O| pepebuho [at] pananet
> ~~~~ Javier Perez
> ~~~~ While the night runs
> ~~~~ toward the day...
> m m Pepebuho watches
> from his high perch.
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>
>

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anothersname at googlemail

May 26, 2008, 4:46 PM

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Re: F7 to F8 or F7 to F9 [In reply to]

F9 does have issues with NVIDIA but it's because the xorg server
currently shipping with F9 is a beta 1.5 version (see the extensive
comments on nvnews and fedoraforum.org ). I've got F9 working by
downscaling xorg to the F8 version and using the nvidia driver.

One thing I will warn you about is that F9 uses Pulseaudio as standard
and AC3 or SPDIF docs for PulseAudio seem none existent.

On balance I'd recommend staying where you are for 3-4 weeks till the
F9 niggles are sorted out.

One good thing is the 2.6.25 kernel supports a lot more v4l/dvb
devices 'out of the box'.

J

2008/5/26 Douglas Wagner <douglasw0 [at] gmail>:
>
>
> On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Javier Perez <pepebuho [at] gmail> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> I heard so much negative stuff about F8 and it's audio setup that i
>> decided to stay at F7 level. ( I learned the hard way to not trouble
>> trouble until trouble troubles me
>> regarding my MythTv setup. ). With F7 reaching EOL, I wonder if it is ok
>> to go into the newly released F9 or should I take my chances with F8?
>>
>> Is mythtv working fine under F9?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> ------------------------------
>> /\_/\
>> |O O| pepebuho [at] pananet
>> ~~~~ Javier Perez
>> ~~~~ While the night runs
>> ~~~~ toward the day...
>> m m Pepebuho watches
>> from his high perch.
>> _______________________________________________
>> mythtv-users mailing list
>> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
>> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>>
>
> The end result is: NO it's not.
>
> I JUST did this. Tried to take a MythTV FC6 Box to F9 and it was a failure
> (well, partial failure at least).
>
> First the upgrade path from FC6 -> F9 was junk, the "upgrade" simply didn't
> work, graphics didn't work well, etc.
>
> So I then reformatted and went through the process. All went well till I
> came to the NVidia drivers. Seems, F9 is too new at this point, NVidia
> simply would not load, not 192 nor the next version (beta, downloaded from
> NVidia themselves). The 192 build has known issues and has a patch, but the
> patch didn't bring nvidia up, nor did the beta drivers that supposedly fix
> the issue (and cause other issues).
>
> This was an attempt as of last week Tuesday? Monday? Something like that
> so it's about a week old info.
>
> I have an NVidia 6200 in the box, and tried both Axel's driver as well as a
> download from Nvida (both patched 192 + beta).
>
> Now, I will admit something: I have 2 weeks to get basically my entire house
> network re-installed and re-setup/upgraded and I really didn't have the time
> nor the inclination to go screwing around with the Nvidia drivers. I can
> tell you that as of a week ago it didn't work "out of the box". That may be
> different now.
>
> I AM NOT trying to get into distro wars at this point but for me, I switched
> over to MythBuntu, had the system up within about 6 hours. It's not perfect
> by any means (see my post about MythBuntu + SB Live Sound) but it works and
> works well at this point, and given that it's on a 3 year support and
> installs by CD (it only includes like 20 programs, literally, and most of
> those are configuration applications) within about 15 minutes it was
> something I couldn't pass up...
>
> YMMV, NVidia may be working by this point, or I may have just done something
> wrong since I didn't do a whole lot of debug with it, but for me it did not
> work out of the box and Nvidia has known issues with the currently
> distributed production driver with F9.
>
> --Douglas Wagner
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>
>
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jrw3319 at gmail

May 27, 2008, 8:47 AM

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Re: F7 to F8 or F7 to F9 [In reply to]

>
>
> >> Hi
> >> I heard so much negative stuff about F8 and it's audio setup that i
> >> decided to stay at F7 level. ( I learned the hard way to not trouble
> >> trouble until trouble troubles me
> >> regarding my MythTv setup. ). With F7 reaching EOL, I wonder if it is ok
> >> to go into the newly released F9 or should I take my chances with F8?
> >>
> >> Is mythtv working fine under F9?
> >>
> >>
>
Just wanted to add another POV. First off, I've had no issues, audio setup
or otherwise, with MythTV and F8. I recently upgraded one workstation that
I use as a front-end from F8 to F9, and so far I'm not too happy. I got the
nVidia binary drivers installed using a package from Freshrpms. However,
even then the driver has some issues; no 3d stuff, and I can't use OpenGL in
Myth. The nVidia stuff aside, the Mythtv packages from ATrpms work just
fine with F9. I've had other general issues with F9 related to KDE4 and
stuff like that. Overall I agree with the last post; wait a few weeks until
some stuff gets squared away with F9, and then go F7 --> F9.

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