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Re: [mythtv-commits] Ticket #5029: can't "never record" upcoming recordings without sub-titles

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mtdean at thirdcontact

Mar 25, 2008, 12:53 PM

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Re: [mythtv-commits] Ticket #5029: can't "never record" upcoming recordings without sub-titles

On 03/25/2008 08:45 AM, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> [. I doubt this is going to post through to -dev as I am not on that
> list. ]
>

Moving to -users, instead, then.

> On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 22:05 -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>
>> Pretty sure to get the behavior you want, you /must/ specify an "Exclude
>> unidentified episodes" duplicate matching policy.
>>
> So, choosing that option will still record unidentified episodes but
> will allow me to choose to not record upcoming episodes that are
> unidentified? I have to admit that I'm skeptical. Skeptical that
> choosing that policy will also continue to record unidentified episodes.

Nope. You would then be saying to never record "unidentified"/"generic"
episodes, so at that point, you wouldn't need to say, "Never record" for
any showing of a generic episode because it would apply to all of them.
After all, what's different about this showing of a generic episode
versus that one? In both cases, Myth was not given enough information
to determine what episode is airing.

Therefore, the question, "What's different?" is really the root of the
problem. What are you trying to do?

You can always do a "Don't record" override for a specific /showing/ of
an episode--even if you don't set an "Exclude unidentified episodes"
duplicate matching policy. If there are 10 generic episodes you don't
want to record in the current listings data, you'll have to do 10
overrides. If more appear with future listings update, they'll need
overrides.

If, instead, you create the rule with "Exclude unidentified episodes",
you can do a one-time record for the generic showing you decide you want.

If you want Myth to record all /identified/ (non-generic) episodes of a
show but to /tell you/ about generic episodes, so you can choose to
record them individually, create a rule to record all of the episodes
using an "Exclude unidentified episodes" duplicate matching policy.
Then, create another rule for the same show that uses (any) other
duplicate matching policy and set it as inactive. Then, all your
identified showings are automatically recorded, but by scanning the
Upcoming Recordings list you can quickly see the generic episodes, in
case you want to research them yourself and create a one-time recording
(now as an override).

> I can't find this "Exclude
> unidentified episodes" duplicate matching policy that you speak of. My
> 0.21 installation here will match by combinations of none, subtitle and
> description only.

You are looking in (the definitive) mythfrontend, right? Under "[ Check
for duplicates in ]"?

In MythWeb, it's put in a "Filter" field, instead to try to make the
idea more understandable.

Mike
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msherman at projectile

Mar 25, 2008, 12:58 PM

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Re: [mythtv-commits] Ticket #5029: can't "never record" upcoming recordings without sub-titles [In reply to]

Michael T. Dean wrote:
>
> If you want Myth to record all /identified/ (non-generic) episodes of a
> show but to /tell you/ about generic episodes, so you can choose to
> record them individually, create a rule to record all of the episodes
> using an "Exclude unidentified episodes" duplicate matching policy.
> Then, create another rule for the same show that uses (any) other
> duplicate matching policy and set it as inactive. Then, all your
> identified showings are automatically recorded, but by scanning the
> Upcoming Recordings list you can quickly see the generic episodes, in
> case you want to research them yourself and create a one-time recording
> (now as an override).

Does 0.21 allow you to create multiple rules for the same title? I've
never been able to do that with 0.20.

With current programs in broad syndication (such as the Simpsons), I'd
like to have a high priority rule recording all new episodes, and a
second lower priority rule with a max episode count for old reruns.

- Marc
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kkuphal at gmail

Mar 25, 2008, 1:05 PM

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Re: [mythtv-commits] Ticket #5029: can't "never record" upcoming recordings without sub-titles [In reply to]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Marc Sherman <msherman [at] projectile>
wrote:

> Michael T. Dean wrote:
> >
> > If you want Myth to record all /identified/ (non-generic) episodes of a
> > show but to /tell you/ about generic episodes, so you can choose to
> > record them individually, create a rule to record all of the episodes
> > using an "Exclude unidentified episodes" duplicate matching policy.
> > Then, create another rule for the same show that uses (any) other
> > duplicate matching policy and set it as inactive. Then, all your
> > identified showings are automatically recorded, but by scanning the
> > Upcoming Recordings list you can quickly see the generic episodes, in
> > case you want to research them yourself and create a one-time recording
> > (now as an override).
>
> Does 0.21 allow you to create multiple rules for the same title? I've
> never been able to do that with 0.20.
>
I've been able to do it with Mythweb. You can do it on the frontend as long
as the episode you want to match on is in the list and not matched by a
prior rule or if you use a power rule.

Kevin

ajlill at ajlc

Mar 26, 2008, 3:38 PM

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Re: [mythtv-commits] Ticket #5029: can't "never record" upcoming recordings without sub-titles [In reply to]

"Kevin Kuphal" <kkuphal [at] gmail> writes:

> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Marc Sherman <msherman [at] projectile>
> wrote:
>
>> Does 0.21 allow you to create multiple rules for the same title? I've
>> never been able to do that with 0.20.
>>
> I've been able to do it with Mythweb. You can do it on the frontend as long
> as the episode you want to match on is in the list and not matched by a
> prior rule or if you use a power rule.

I use the following script to create a standard recording rule from
the command line. Change the channel id and callsign to one that
exists in your lineup (or not, it probably doesn't matter). You can
then edit the options to your liking from mythweb or the Recording
Priorities screen in the frontend.

#! /bin/sh
# recordit "Program Title"
mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg << __EOF__
insert into record(type,chanid,title,autoexpire,station) values(4,1002,"$1",1,"CICA");
__EOF__

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