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ron at ronfrazier

Mar 16, 2008, 9:20 AM

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Please recommend a IR receiver that can wake from suspend-2-ram

For several years I had been using a IRA-3 infrared receiver and had
been quite happy with it. When I was building my new box a few months
back, I did a bunch of research into different IR receiver options.
One of the features that was important to me was the ability to wake
the machine from suspend to ram via the USB port. After looking
around, I had seen several people say they were happy with the
USB-UIRT, and the myth wiki mentioned that the device could wake the
machine from suspend.

However, after getting the USB-UIRT, I have been quite unhappy with
it, for a number of reasons

1) The wake from suspend feature doesn't appear to work under linux (I
had a thread about the issue about a month or so back).

2) The device seems to be much more finicky about the direction the
remote is pointed. With my IRA-3, I could point any of my remotes at
the opposite wall and the IRA-3 would still detect it fine. With the
USB-UIRT, some of my remotes still work fine like that, but others
need to be pointed directly at the receiver (I've replaced the
batteries and it's still a problem).

3) Configuring the USB-UIRT with irrecord is very problematic. I had
to repeat the process many times to get it to work. It kept telling me
there was a problem when I tried to record certain buttons. Other
buttons would occasionally give me that error and then work other
times. With the IRA-3, everything I tried had always worked on the
first attempt.

4) Most importantly...the USB-UIRT just died on me after only 2
months. The red light is stuck on, it won't receive any input, and
neither linux nor windows can detect the device.

Since my research failed me the first time, I thought I'd ask for
first hand experiences with other receivers. Waking from suspend via
the USB port is a must have feature for me (if it weren't, I'd still
be using my IRA-3), so please don't bother recommending anything that
doesn't support it.

--
Ron
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daniel at agar

Mar 16, 2008, 9:35 AM

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Re: Please recommend a IR receiver that can wake from suspend-2-ram [In reply to]

> For several years I had been using a IRA-3 infrared receiver and had
> been quite happy with it. When I was building my new box a few months
> back, I did a bunch of research into different IR receiver options.
> One of the features that was important to me was the ability to wake
> the machine from suspend to ram via the USB port. After looking
> around, I had seen several people say they were happy with the
> USB-UIRT, and the myth wiki mentioned that the device could wake the
> machine from suspend.
>
> However, after getting the USB-UIRT, I have been quite unhappy with
> it, for a number of reasons
>
> 1) The wake from suspend feature doesn't appear to work under linux (I
> had a thread about the issue about a month or so back).
>
> 2) The device seems to be much more finicky about the direction the
> remote is pointed. With my IRA-3, I could point any of my remotes at
> the opposite wall and the IRA-3 would still detect it fine. With the
> USB-UIRT, some of my remotes still work fine like that, but others
> need to be pointed directly at the receiver (I've replaced the
> batteries and it's still a problem).
>
> 3) Configuring the USB-UIRT with irrecord is very problematic. I had
> to repeat the process many times to get it to work. It kept telling me
> there was a problem when I tried to record certain buttons. Other
> buttons would occasionally give me that error and then work other
> times. With the IRA-3, everything I tried had always worked on the
> first attempt.
>
> 4) Most importantly...the USB-UIRT just died on me after only 2
> months. The red light is stuck on, it won't receive any input, and
> neither linux nor windows can detect the device.
>
> Since my research failed me the first time, I thought I'd ask for
> first hand experiences with other receivers. Waking from suspend via
> the USB port is a must have feature for me (if it weren't, I'd still
> be using my IRA-3), so please don't bother recommending anything that
> doesn't support it.
>
> --
> Ron
This works for me.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=005774&cid=PE.829

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Mar 16, 2008, 9:43 AM

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Re: Please recommend a IR receiver that can wake from suspend-2-ram [In reply to]

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Ronald Frazier <ron [at] ronfrazier> wrote:
> Since my research failed me the first time, I thought I'd ask for
> first hand experiences with other receivers. Waking from suspend via
> the USB port is a must have feature for me (if it weren't, I'd still
> be using my IRA-3), so please don't bother recommending anything that
> doesn't support it.
>
Ron,

Can't cite URLs for threads, but there was a bug with USB wakeup which
was supposed to be fixed, IIRC, in kernels at or after 2.6.24. I have
had other things to watch ;-) so I haven't pursued it recently myself.
I have a Micro$oft Media Center remote and receiver which do
everything else I want except wake from suspend/hibernate, so I am
looking forward to getting that going. OTOH, since I have problems
with getting suspend to work on my hardware, wakeup has become a
secondary issue. Someday I hope to get back to these "projects", too.
On top of everything else, having been convinced to get off the
Fedora Core merry-go-round and switch to CentOS, I find that kmdls and
support for TuxOnIce (my preferred suspend/hibernate solution) tend to
be overlooked and only built on request, so I find myself seriously
looking at building my own RPM repository to maintain
built-from-sources kernels and kmdls to support CentOS 5.1 with
nvidia-graphics, alsa, ivtv, lirc, and suspend2/tuxonice kmdl and
kernel modifications supported.

Craig.
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cyruspy at gmail

Mar 16, 2008, 10:13 AM

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Re: Please recommend a IR receiver that can wake from suspend-2-ram [In reply to]

2008/3/16, Ronald Frazier <ron [at] ronfrazier>:
> For several years I had been using a IRA-3 infrared receiver and had
> been quite happy with it. When I was building my new box a few months
> back, I did a bunch of research into different IR receiver options.
> One of the features that was important to me was the ability to wake
> the machine from suspend to ram via the USB port. After looking
> around, I had seen several people say they were happy with the
> USB-UIRT, and the myth wiki mentioned that the device could wake the
> machine from suspend.
>
> However, after getting the USB-UIRT, I have been quite unhappy with
> it, for a number of reasons
>
> 1) The wake from suspend feature doesn't appear to work under linux (I
> had a thread about the issue about a month or so back).
>
> 2) The device seems to be much more finicky about the direction the
> remote is pointed. With my IRA-3, I could point any of my remotes at
> the opposite wall and the IRA-3 would still detect it fine. With the
> USB-UIRT, some of my remotes still work fine like that, but others
> need to be pointed directly at the receiver (I've replaced the
> batteries and it's still a problem).
>
> 3) Configuring the USB-UIRT with irrecord is very problematic. I had
> to repeat the process many times to get it to work. It kept telling me
> there was a problem when I tried to record certain buttons. Other
> buttons would occasionally give me that error and then work other
> times. With the IRA-3, everything I tried had always worked on the
> first attempt.
>
> 4) Most importantly...the USB-UIRT just died on me after only 2
> months. The red light is stuck on, it won't receive any input, and
> neither linux nor windows can detect the device.
>
> Since my research failed me the first time, I thought I'd ask for
> first hand experiences with other receivers. Waking from suspend via
> the USB port is a must have feature for me (if it weren't, I'd still
> be using my IRA-3), so please don't bother recommending anything that
> doesn't support it.
>
>
> --
> Ron

What about the Ricavision internal receiver?, there are some pics
here: http://www.htpcnews.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22900&mode=threaded&pid=148147

Ciro
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ron at ronfrazier

Mar 16, 2008, 10:38 AM

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Re: Please recommend a IR receiver that can wake from suspend-2-ram [In reply to]

I should further add...I'd really like the wake from suspend to be
programmable, so it can work with any button from any remote. As far
as I can tell, a lot of the WinMCE receivers will wake from the power
button on a WinMCE remote, but can't be programmed to wake in response
to a different IR code. I've got a couple of remotes that I'm quite
happy with, and I'm less that thrilled with the available buttons
and/or layout of a lot of the WinMCE remotes I see.

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ron at ronfrazier

Mar 16, 2008, 10:42 AM

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Re: Please recommend a IR receiver that can wake from suspend-2-ram [In reply to]

> Can't cite URLs for threads, but there was a bug with USB wakeup which
> was supposed to be fixed, IIRC, in kernels at or after 2.6.24. I have
> had other things to watch ;-) so I haven't pursued it recently myself.

Yes, I'm running 2.6.24. I detailed the whole story in my previous
thread, but in a nutshell, I was able to get the USB-UIRT to wake from
suspend as long as I didn't use LIRC. However, as soon as lirc tried
communicating with the USB-UIRT, it would no longer wake from suspend,
and the device needed to be physically unplugged before it would wake
again. Thus it was an either/or situation (wake from suspend, or lirc,
but not both).

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daniel at agar

Mar 16, 2008, 10:51 AM

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Re: Please recommend a IR receiver that can wake from suspend-2-ram [In reply to]

> I should further add...I'd really like the wake from suspend to be
> programmable, so it can work with any button from any remote. As far
> as I can tell, a lot of the WinMCE receivers will wake from the power
> button on a WinMCE remote, but can't be programmed to wake in response
> to a different IR code. I've got a couple of remotes that I'm quite
> happy with, and I'm less that thrilled with the available buttons
> and/or layout of a lot of the WinMCE remotes I see.
>
> ---
> Ron

I was under the impression the myth box will wake with any IR activity,
although I've never actually tried to wake it with anything but the power
button. The only thing I have mapped to the power button in lirc is a
script that puts my box to sleep, so I don't know if it's possible to
program the wakeup behavior from lirc. I use a harmony remote with my main
setup, so the button layout of the media center remote has never been an
issue.

Daniel

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Axel.Thimm at ATrpms

Mar 16, 2008, 1:37 PM

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Re: Please recommend a IR receiver that can wake from suspend-2-ram [In reply to]

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 11:43:17AM -0500, Craig Huff wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Ronald Frazier <ron [at] ronfrazier> wrote:
> > Since my research failed me the first time, I thought I'd ask for
> > first hand experiences with other receivers. Waking from suspend via
> > the USB port is a must have feature for me (if it weren't, I'd still
> > be using my IRA-3), so please don't bother recommending anything that
> > doesn't support it.
> >
> Ron,
>
> Can't cite URLs for threads, but there was a bug with USB wakeup which
> was supposed to be fixed, IIRC, in kernels at or after 2.6.24. I have
> had other things to watch ;-) so I haven't pursued it recently myself.
> I have a Micro$oft Media Center remote and receiver which do
> everything else I want except wake from suspend/hibernate, so I am
> looking forward to getting that going. OTOH, since I have problems
> with getting suspend to work on my hardware, wakeup has become a
> secondary issue. Someday I hope to get back to these "projects", too.
> On top of everything else, having been convinced to get off the
> Fedora Core merry-go-round and switch to CentOS, I find that kmdls and
> support for TuxOnIce (my preferred suspend/hibernate solution) tend to
> be overlooked and only built on request, so I find myself seriously
> looking at building my own RPM repository to maintain
> built-from-sources kernels and kmdls to support CentOS 5.1 with
> nvidia-graphics, alsa, ivtv, lirc, and suspend2/tuxonice kmdl and
> kernel modifications supported.

If you contribute this workload to ATrpms more people will have
benefits from your work! :)

The main part is that there are not that many people interested in
tuxonice on CentOS. Which is why Matthias usually only maintains these
kernels upon request. If you can help him out with the RHEL/CentOS
part, I'm sure he will be very glad!

If you're interested join us at ATrpms-devel.
--
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net

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Mar 16, 2008, 5:02 PM

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Re: Please recommend a IR receiver that can wake from suspend-2-ram [In reply to]

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm [at] atrpms> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 11:43:17AM -0500, Craig Huff wrote:
> >
> > Can't cite URLs for threads, but there was a bug with USB wakeup which
> > was supposed to be fixed, IIRC, in kernels at or after 2.6.24. I have
> > had other things to watch ;-) so I haven't pursued it recently myself.
> > I have a Micro$oft Media Center remote and receiver which do
> > everything else I want except wake from suspend/hibernate, so I am
> > looking forward to getting that going. OTOH, since I have problems
> > with getting suspend to work on my hardware, wakeup has become a
> > secondary issue. Someday I hope to get back to these "projects", too.
> > On top of everything else, having been convinced to get off the
> > Fedora Core merry-go-round and switch to CentOS, I find that kmdls and
> > support for TuxOnIce (my preferred suspend/hibernate solution) tend to
> > be overlooked and only built on request, so I find myself seriously
> > looking at building my own RPM repository to maintain
> > built-from-sources kernels and kmdls to support CentOS 5.1 with
> > nvidia-graphics, alsa, ivtv, lirc, and suspend2/tuxonice kmdl and
> > kernel modifications supported.
>
> If you contribute this workload to ATrpms more people will have
> benefits from your work! :)
>
> The main part is that there are not that many people interested in
> tuxonice on CentOS. Which is why Matthias usually only maintains these
> kernels upon request. If you can help him out with the RHEL/CentOS
> part, I'm sure he will be very glad!
>
> If you're interested join us at ATrpms-devel.
> --
> Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
>
Axel,

Gladly, but don't hold your breath! It seems my family thinks I spend
too much time between the keyboard and chair already 8^).

If I get anywhere, I'll sign up for the -devel list and find out how
to share whatever RPMs I can produce.

Craig.
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Mar 17, 2008, 2:58 AM

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Re: Please recommend a IR receiver that can wake from suspend-2-ram [In reply to]

On 16/03/2008, Ronald Frazier <ron [at] ronfrazier> wrote:
> For several years I had been using a IRA-3 infrared receiver and had
> been quite happy with it. When I was building my new box a few months
> back, I did a bunch of research into different IR receiver options.
> One of the features that was important to me was the ability to wake
> the machine from suspend to ram via the USB port. After looking
> around, I had seen several people say they were happy with the
> USB-UIRT, and the myth wiki mentioned that the device could wake the
> machine from suspend.
>
> However, after getting the USB-UIRT, I have been quite unhappy with
> it, for a number of reasons
>
> 1) The wake from suspend feature doesn't appear to work under linux (I
> had a thread about the issue about a month or so back).
>
> 2) The device seems to be much more finicky about the direction the
> remote is pointed. With my IRA-3, I could point any of my remotes at
> the opposite wall and the IRA-3 would still detect it fine. With the
> USB-UIRT, some of my remotes still work fine like that, but others
> need to be pointed directly at the receiver (I've replaced the
> batteries and it's still a problem).
>
> 3) Configuring the USB-UIRT with irrecord is very problematic. I had
> to repeat the process many times to get it to work. It kept telling me
> there was a problem when I tried to record certain buttons. Other
> buttons would occasionally give me that error and then work other
> times. With the IRA-3, everything I tried had always worked on the
> first attempt.
>
> 4) Most importantly...the USB-UIRT just died on me after only 2
> months. The red light is stuck on, it won't receive any input, and
> neither linux nor windows can detect the device.
>
> Since my research failed me the first time, I thought I'd ask for
> first hand experiences with other receivers. Waking from suspend via
> the USB port is a must have feature for me (if it weren't, I'd still
> be using my IRA-3), so please don't bother recommending anything that
> doesn't support it.
>
>
> --
> Ron
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Ron,

Not yet tried to use the USB-UIRT to wake up the box (though I may be
doing this soon!).
However, regarding your general USB-UIRT experience I'd get in touch
with the support list for it.
The designer is a pretty helpful bloke, who takes support issues
pretty seriously in my experience. He doesn't support the linux side
himself, but is helpful to those who do.

Cheers

Steve
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