
dsmolka at gmail
Mar 1, 2008, 11:43 PM
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Re: Hauppauge HD PVR (A bit more info for those starved for it)
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On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:51 PM, David Brodbeck <gull [at] gull> wrote: > Eric Martin wrote: > > John Drescher wrote: > I don't really understand what people mean when they say Outlook makes > it hard to bottom post. I never had any problems positioning the cursor > at the bottom and they typing, which is what I've had to do in every > email client I've used. I don't think the thing is that Outlook makes it difficult to bottom post per se, but that Outlook makes it difficult to deal with emails in any other way than its designers want you to. This is not a good thing. And it fits completely the pattern of MS apps when you think about it. When Outlook first started getting included in the MS Office suite, and bundled with MS Windows, it was comparable to, and as full featured as, the third-party apps it was intended to kill -- namely Eudora. In the beginning it was pretty good. But MS development being what it is, they put all their efforts into adding features and bloat to Outlook and you can see the resulting product. It started as an email client and was intended to be an email client. But now it is a calendaring system, an interface to shared document repositories, a contact management system, an alarm clock, and so on. It does all these things with a greater or lesser degree of success. But as an email client, it is still stuck in the 1990s. Outlook still does not do proper message threading. There is still no way for you to see your see your sent messages in line with the messages they're in reply to. It is complicated and confusing even to try to get Outlook to deal with emails as text and not html. And, at least in my experience, no matter how many times you tell it to use a fixed-width font and to work only in text, it still randomly reverts to a different font and embeds html. I do like the calendaring, and I do like the some of the collaborative features that are built into Outlook. But as an email client, it's so far behind that's it's almost laughable. Yes, you can bottom-post using Outlook. But you have to know how you want it to behave, you have to want to configure it specifically to behave that way, you have to navigate a dizzying array of menus to find all the options you need to tweak, and you have to pray that it keeps doing what you've told it to. More often than not I find with MS applications that They Know what you want, and They Will Do what you Really Want, no matter how often you tell Them otherwise. It's frankly an embarasment for MS, similar to the embarasment of IE -- they conquered the world with IE5, didn't really change it at all in IE6, and figured that nobody would notice or care that their product was several generations and lots of features behind the homebrew stuff. Unfortunately there's nothing in the FOSS world that does everything Outlook does, particularly because we're locked out of MS Exchange Server. But there are plenty of packages that do each of the parts Outlook does better, cleaner, more efficiently, more transparently, and more pleasantly. One should not have to battle with something as simple as an email client, but the fact is that Outlook forces the user to fight it. Even pine (even elm) is simpler to use. Thunderbird runs circles around it. Evolution is far more efficient. Even the Gmail client does a better job with message threading, and let's not even get into how long it takes to do a search using the built in Outlook tools. Yeah! (*high-five*) (/rant) _______________________________________________ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users [at] mythtv http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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