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luitjens at cs

Feb 12, 2008, 10:07 PM

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Digital audio issues

Hi,

I have my mythbox (using the latest SVN) connected to my mixer via a
digital optical cable. I have an asoundrc file created according to the
documentation found here:
http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound

I am using the mixed-digital.

I also have AC3 and DTS to SPDIF passthrough enabled.

Sound works fine for livetv, recordings, and mythmusic. However there
is a quirk in mythvideo. I have some ISO movies, when I watch them the
sound is fine unless I try to fast forward, pause, or rewind. As soon
as I unpause or finish fast forwarding or rewinding I get digital
noise. In order to restore the sound I have to go back to the main menu
and restart the dvd.
Does anyone know what might cause this? Is the audio signal somehow
changing after I pause it? I have tried turning the mixer off and back
on but the noise persists making me believe it is a problem with the
signal being sent.



Also I have a second problem where if I set max audio channels to 5.1 I
get no sound at all. Is there any documentation on the Max Audio
Channels & Upmixing?

Thanks
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hobbes1069 at gmail

Feb 13, 2008, 11:23 AM

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Re: Digital audio issues [In reply to]

On Feb 13, 2008 12:07 AM, Justin <luitjens [at] cs> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have my mythbox (using the latest SVN) connected to my mixer via a
> digital optical cable. I have an asoundrc file created according to the
> documentation found here:
> http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound
>
> I am using the mixed-digital.
>
> I also have AC3 and DTS to SPDIF passthrough enabled.
>
> Sound works fine for livetv, recordings, and mythmusic. However there
> is a quirk in mythvideo. I have some ISO movies, when I watch them the
> sound is fine unless I try to fast forward, pause, or rewind. As soon
> as I unpause or finish fast forwarding or rewinding I get digital
> noise. In order to restore the sound I have to go back to the main menu
> and restart the dvd.
> Does anyone know what might cause this? Is the audio signal somehow
> changing after I pause it? I have tried turning the mixer off and back
> on but the noise persists making me believe it is a problem with the
> signal being sent.
>

It's hard to tell without more information. What linux are you running?
Fedora, MythDora, etc. What sound hardware are you using? Onboard (nForce,
VIA, etc) Or Audigy, Turtle beach?

I also use the .asoundrc w/ mixed digital selected. One interesting thing is
I'm using the same .asoundrc in F8 that I used on FC6, however, under FC6 I
got both mixed digital and analog output from analog sources. Under F8, all
output is digital only. I have pulseaudio disabled...

Richard


luitjens at cs

Feb 13, 2008, 9:39 PM

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Re: Digital audio issues [In reply to]

>> Hi,
>>
>> I have my mythbox (using the latest SVN) connected to my mixer via a
>> digital optical cable. I have an asoundrc file created according to the
>> documentation found here:
>> http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound
>>
>> I am using the mixed-digital.
>>
>> I also have AC3 and DTS to SPDIF passthrough enabled.
>>
>> Sound works fine for livetv, recordings, and mythmusic. However there
>> is a quirk in mythvideo. I have some ISO movies, when I watch them the
>> sound is fine unless I try to fast forward, pause, or rewind. As soon
>> as I unpause or finish fast forwarding or rewinding I get digital
>> noise. In order to restore the sound I have to go back to the main menu
>> and restart the dvd.
>> Does anyone know what might cause this? Is the audio signal somehow
>> changing after I pause it? I have tried turning the mixer off and back
>> on but the noise persists making me believe it is a problem with the
>> signal being sent.
>>
>>
>
> It's hard to tell without more information. What linux are you running?
> Fedora, MythDora, etc. What sound hardware are you using? Onboard (nForce,
> VIA, etc) Or Audigy, Turtle beach?
>
> I also use the .asoundrc w/ mixed digital selected. One interesting thing is
> I'm using the same .asoundrc in F8 that I used on FC6, however, under FC6 I
> got both mixed digital and analog output from analog sources. Under F8, all
> output is digital only. I have pulseaudio disabled...
>
> Richard
>
>
I'm using fedora 8 with the nforce4 motherboard using the built in.
Here is aplay -l:

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 0: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 1: ALC883 Digital [ALC883 Digital]
Subdevices: 0/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


I've configured alsa to use the second device.


Justin
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mtdean at thirdcontact

Feb 16, 2008, 9:27 AM

Post #4 of 8 (1866 views)
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Re: Digital audio issues [In reply to]

On 02/13/2008 01:07 AM, Justin wrote:
> I have my mythbox (using the latest SVN) connected to my mixer via a
> digital optical cable. I have an asoundrc file created according to the
> documentation found here:
> http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound
>
> I am using the mixed-digital.
>
> I also have AC3 and DTS to SPDIF passthrough enabled.
>
> Sound works fine for livetv, recordings, and mythmusic. However there
> is a quirk in mythvideo. I have some ISO movies, when I watch them the
> sound is fine unless I try to fast forward, pause, or rewind. As soon
> as I unpause or finish fast forwarding or rewinding I get digital
> noise. In order to restore the sound I have to go back to the main menu
> and restart the dvd.
> Does anyone know what might cause this?

You've set the Internal player to use AC-3/DTS passthrough and you've
set the passthrough device to default or ALSA:mixed-digital, which won't
work. You need to change the passthrough device to something else (i.e.
ALSA:digital may work (depending on your particular sound card), if not,
use ALSA:iec958 --do not use the one in the combobox that says,
"ALSA:iec958:{ AES0 0x02 }", as it's different (and a broken
configuration)).

Mike
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hobbes1069 at gmail

Feb 16, 2008, 2:32 PM

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Re: Digital audio issues [In reply to]

On Feb 16, 2008 11:27 AM, Michael T. Dean <mtdean [at] thirdcontact> wrote:

> On 02/13/2008 01:07 AM, Justin wrote:
> > I have my mythbox (using the latest SVN) connected to my mixer via a
> > digital optical cable. I have an asoundrc file created according to the
> > documentation found here:
> > http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound
> >
> > I am using the mixed-digital.
> >
> > I also have AC3 and DTS to SPDIF passthrough enabled.
> >
> > Sound works fine for livetv, recordings, and mythmusic. However there
> > is a quirk in mythvideo. I have some ISO movies, when I watch them the
> > sound is fine unless I try to fast forward, pause, or rewind. As soon
> > as I unpause or finish fast forwarding or rewinding I get digital
> > noise. In order to restore the sound I have to go back to the main menu
> > and restart the dvd.
> > Does anyone know what might cause this?
>
> You've set the Internal player to use AC-3/DTS passthrough and you've
> set the passthrough device to default or ALSA:mixed-digital, which won't
> work. You need to change the passthrough device to something else (i.e.
> ALSA:digital may work (depending on your particular sound card), if not,
> use ALSA:iec958 --do not use the one in the combobox that says,
> "ALSA:iec958:{ AES0 0x02 }", as it's different (and a broken
> configuration)).
>
> Mike
>

Strange, I have mine set with the {AES0 0x02} and it still works fine. Mine
is a nForce3 chipset...

Richard


mtdean at thirdcontact

Feb 16, 2008, 7:51 PM

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Re: Digital audio issues [In reply to]

On 02/16/2008 05:32 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Feb 16, 2008 11:27 AM, Michael T. Dean <mtdean [at] thirdcontact> wrote:
>> On 02/13/2008 01:07 AM, Justin wrote:
>>
>>> I have my mythbox (using the latest SVN) connected to my mixer via a
>>> digital optical cable. I have an asoundrc file created according to the
>>> documentation found here:
>>> http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound
>>>
>>> I am using the mixed-digital.
>>>
>>> I also have AC3 and DTS to SPDIF passthrough enabled.
>>>
>>> Sound works fine for livetv, recordings, and mythmusic. However there
>>> is a quirk in mythvideo. I have some ISO movies, when I watch them the
>>> sound is fine unless I try to fast forward, pause, or rewind. As soon
>>> as I unpause or finish fast forwarding or rewinding I get digital
>>> noise. In order to restore the sound I have to go back to the main menu
>>> and restart the dvd.
>>> Does anyone know what might cause this?
>>>
>> You've set the Internal player to use AC-3/DTS passthrough and you've
>> set the passthrough device to default or ALSA:mixed-digital, which won't
>> work. You need to change the passthrough device to something else (i.e.
>> ALSA:digital may work (depending on your particular sound card), if not,
>> use ALSA:iec958 --do not use the one in the combobox that says,
>> "ALSA:iec958:{ AES0 0x02 }", as it's different (and a broken
>> configuration)).
> Strange, I have mine set with the {AES0 0x02} and it still works fine. Mine
> is a nForce3 chipset...

It's not a full IEC 958 status specification, so it only works if the
previous state of the port is close enough to correct. Depending on the
types of audio you play back and how playback changes the iec958 status,
explicitly specifying a partial status can put the card into a state
where the port won't properly initialize for AC-3/DTS passthrough or
leave it in a state where it can't play back other audio later. Also,
the specification won't work with all cards.

However, generally, ALSA will just "do the right thing" once you've
configured digital audio properly if you don't try to tell it what to
do, so it's not necessary to specify it. Until Myth allows better
control over the ALSA subsystem, it's generally better to leave the
iec958 status specification out as it can introduce an extra layer of
complexity.

Mike
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hobbes1069 at gmail

Feb 17, 2008, 5:36 AM

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Re: Digital audio issues [In reply to]

On Feb 13, 2008 1:23 PM, Richard Shaw <hobbes1069 [at] gmail> wrote:

>
> I also use the .asoundrc w/ mixed digital selected. One interesting thing
> is I'm using the same .asoundrc in F8 that I used on FC6, however, under FC6
> I got both mixed digital and analog output from analog sources. Under F8,
> all output is digital only. I have pulseaudio disabled...
>
> Richard


Pardon me for hijacking my own post here... But does anyone know why the
above would be true? I know I've seen it discussed before but not sure if
there was a real solution. I want Myth to act more like a DVD player. i.e.
all audio input (analog or digital) is output both analog and digital. I
think I'm wearing out my receiver leaving it on all day for the kids movies.

Richard


luitjens at cs

Feb 17, 2008, 7:55 AM

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Re: Digital audio issues [In reply to]

On Feb 13, 2008 1:23 PM, Richard Shaw <hobbes1069[at]gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> I also use the .asoundrc w/ mixed digital selected. One
interesting thing
> is I'm using the same .asoundrc in F8 that I used on FC6,
however, under FC6
> I got both mixed digital and analog output from analog
sources. Under F8,
> all output is digital only. I have pulseaudio disabled...
>
> Richard


Pardon me for hijacking my own post here... But does anyone know
why the
above would be true? I know I've seen it discussed before but
not sure if
there was a real solution. I want Myth to act more like a DVD
player. i.e.
all audio input (analog or digital) is output both analog and
digital. I
think I'm wearing out my receiver leaving it on all day for the
kids movies.

Richard




http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound has a guide
on how to output both analog and digital at the same time.
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