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sa_cooke at iprimus

Dec 25, 2007, 11:53 AM

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MythTV - help please!

Hi all,

My first message looks like it failed to get through, so I'm trying again.

I'm beginning to really believe that 'MythTV' is actually that - a myth.
I have been trying to get mythTV to do what it is claimed to do (allow
television content to be seen on linux-based machines!) for over a year
now. Twelve frigging frustrating months. In that time I've seen at least
one new version of Fedora and at least half a gig of changes to my
current libraries via yum. I cannot even get the Australian television
station config file to appear in the appropriate place when trying to
configure the 'backend' (I think in frustration I renamed it the
arsehole in the end).

I give up. I'd really like to get this working, but I cannot see how it
is possible. It simply does not want to work on linux. I don't know
where else to turn to - so, in the same way as we RTFM when all else
fails, I now admit defeat by turning to the MythTV users list...

Steve.
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myth at dermanouelian

Dec 25, 2007, 12:08 PM

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Re: MythTV - help please! [In reply to]

On Dec 25, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Steve Cooke wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My first message looks like it failed to get through, so I'm trying
> again.
>
> I'm beginning to really believe that 'MythTV' is actually that - a
> myth.
> I have been trying to get mythTV to do what it is claimed to do (allow
> television content to be seen on linux-based machines!) for over a
> year
> now. Twelve frigging frustrating months. In that time I've seen at
> least
> one new version of Fedora and at least half a gig of changes to my
> current libraries via yum. I cannot even get the Australian television
> station config file to appear in the appropriate place when trying to
> configure the 'backend' (I think in frustration I renamed it the
> arsehole in the end).
>
> I give up. I'd really like to get this working, but I cannot see how
> it
> is possible. It simply does not want to work on linux. I don't know
> where else to turn to - so, in the same way as we RTFM when all else
> fails, I now admit defeat by turning to the MythTV users list...
>
> Steve.

It sounds like you need to start from the beginning.
What guide are you following?

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sa_cooke at iprimus

Dec 25, 2007, 12:14 PM

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Re: MythTV - help please! [In reply to]

Brad DerManouelian wrote:

>It sounds like you need to start from the beginning.
>What guide are you following?
>
>

Hi Brad,

I'm following no one particular guide, as the guides I've used have all
left me with unusable installations. The guide I originally followed was:
http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/

This was helpful as far as the kernal changes from memory - we are
talking 12 months ago though.

Steve.
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Dec 25, 2007, 12:26 PM

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Re: MythTV - help please! [In reply to]

On Dec 25, 2007 2:14 PM, Steve Cooke <sa_cooke [at] iprimus> wrote:
> Brad DerManouelian wrote:
>
> >It sounds like you need to start from the beginning.
> >What guide are you following?
> >
> >
>
> Hi Brad,
>
> I'm following no one particular guide, as the guides I've used have all
> left me with unusable installations. The guide I originally followed was:
> http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/
>
> This was helpful as far as the kernal changes from memory - we are
> talking 12 months ago though.
>
> Steve.
>
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>

I think that a built distro is the way to go... either something like
mythbuntu or mythdora is way easier to get working than trying to roll
everything yourself.
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myth at dermanouelian

Dec 25, 2007, 12:26 PM

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Re: MythTV - help please! [In reply to]

On Dec 25, 2007, at 12:14 PM, Steve Cooke wrote:

> Brad DerManouelian wrote:
>
>> It sounds like you need to start from the beginning.
>> What guide are you following?
>>
>>
>
> Hi Brad,
>
> I'm following no one particular guide, as the guides I've used have
> all
> left me with unusable installations. The guide I originally followed
> was:
> http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/
>
> This was helpful as far as the kernal changes from memory - we are
> talking 12 months ago though.

That's a great place to start. Unfortunately, it's hard to help with a
generic problem like, "It just won't work" or "my installation is
unusuable". I would recommend starting from scratch. Reformat the
drive, install the OS again, start at the beginning with the guide and
when you run into a problem, ask a specific question about that
particular problem to get you through to the next step.

The problem with guides is that they are just that - a guide. It was
correct at the time it was written, but software is continually
changing and what did work before might not work exactly the same way
now. For instance, I know ivtv commands changed since the time the
guide you mentioned was written. However, checking the -help for
command syntax or searching the archives for the error message or
asking on the list "When I type this command, I get this error. What
should I do?"

When I started using MythTV a couple of years ago, I started with that
guide and I ended up reinstalling the OS a couple of times and
uninstalling/reinstalling all my packages 2-3 times before I got a
combination that worked. I learned a lot in that process and now
understand how to resolve dependency issues and how to configure my
system to do what I want it to do rather than what someone else wanted
their system to do that I am now copying.

Now that I think about it, the first time I installed, I used
KnoppMyth because I saw a video about how easy it was to set up. It
really was. I had it up and running in about 30 minutes after I
installed and hooked up my PVR-350. If you're getting frustrated with
setting everything up yourself, try one of the Myth-specific distros
like KnoppMyth. More popular ones have come along since then like
Mythbuntu and Mythdora. There are others, but these are the ones I
hear about the most. There are good discussions about them in the
archives, as well. Like here: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/198511

Stick with it. You will soon learn the joy of turning on your TV and
browsing through a list of programs you want to see waiting for you on
demand without commercial interruption. :)

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tascholl at gmail

Dec 25, 2007, 12:34 PM

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Re: MythTV - help please! [In reply to]

On Dec 25, 2007 3:26 PM, Brad DerManouelian <myth [at] dermanouelian> wrote:

> On Dec 25, 2007, at 12:14 PM, Steve Cooke wrote:
>
> > Brad DerManouelian wrote:
> >
> >> It sounds like you need to start from the beginning.
> >> What guide are you following?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Hi Brad,
> >
> > I'm following no one particular guide, as the guides I've used have
> > all
> > left me with unusable installations. The guide I originally followed
> > was:
> > http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/
> >
> > This was helpful as far as the kernal changes from memory - we are
> > talking 12 months ago though.
>
> That's a great place to start. Unfortunately, it's hard to help with a
> generic problem like, "It just won't work" or "my installation is
> unusuable". I would recommend starting from scratch. Reformat the
> drive, install the OS again, start at the beginning with the guide and
> when you run into a problem, ask a specific question about that
> particular problem to get you through to the next step.
>
> The problem with guides is that they are just that - a guide. It was
> correct at the time it was written, but software is continually
> changing and what did work before might not work exactly the same way
> now. For instance, I know ivtv commands changed since the time the
> guide you mentioned was written. However, checking the -help for
> command syntax or searching the archives for the error message or
> asking on the list "When I type this command, I get this error. What
> should I do?"
>
> When I started using MythTV a couple of years ago, I started with that
> guide and I ended up reinstalling the OS a couple of times and
> uninstalling/reinstalling all my packages 2-3 times before I got a
> combination that worked. I learned a lot in that process and now
> understand how to resolve dependency issues and how to configure my
> system to do what I want it to do rather than what someone else wanted
> their system to do that I am now copying.
>
> Now that I think about it, the first time I installed, I used
> KnoppMyth because I saw a video about how easy it was to set up. It
> really was. I had it up and running in about 30 minutes after I
> installed and hooked up my PVR-350. If you're getting frustrated with
> setting everything up yourself, try one of the Myth-specific distros
> like KnoppMyth. More popular ones have come along since then like
> Mythbuntu and Mythdora. There are others, but these are the ones I
> hear about the most. There are good discussions about them in the
> archives, as well. Like here:
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/198511
>
> Stick with it. You will soon learn the joy of turning on your TV and
> browsing through a list of programs you want to see waiting for you on
> demand without commercial interruption. :)
>
> _______________________________________________
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> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>

I can "second" the previous posts. When I start to build my Myth box (over
a year and 1/2 ago)I used KnoppMyth for my first go around and got it
running in a week.

Definitely try one of the complete distros. You'll have much better luck!
The is a lot of buzz on
Mythbuntu and Mythdora and I hear that they are both good as well.

If you try KnoppMyth this week it will be ready before the new year!
--
Tim

sa_cooke at iprimus

Dec 25, 2007, 12:54 PM

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Re: MythTV - help please! [In reply to]

>>
>> That's a great place to start. Unfortunately, it's hard to help with a
>> generic problem like, "It just won't work" or "my installation is
>> unusuable". I would recommend starting from scratch. Reformat the
>> drive, install the OS again, start at the beginning with the guide and
>> when you run into a problem, ask a specific question about that
>> particular problem to get you through to the next step.

Hi Tim,

Ok. I'm not going to reinstall the OS again - that has been done at least
10 times over the past year. I am over OS installs. ANd the attandent lib
updates.

The first problem I had with the guide was talk of static IP addresses. I
KNOW what IP addresses are - but why do we need them for a TV content machine?
I have ADSL delivery of internet and email content to my home, so ip addresses,
static or otherwise, really have no place in the scheme of things. That is
all handled 'magically' (read invisibly) for me.

Steve.

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myth at dermanouelian

Dec 25, 2007, 1:09 PM

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Re: MythTV - help please! [In reply to]

On Dec 25, 2007, at 12:54 PM, sa_cooke [at] iprimus wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> Ok. I'm not going to reinstall the OS again - that has been done at
> least
> 10 times over the past year. I am over OS installs. ANd the
> attandent lib
> updates.
>
> The first problem I had with the guide was talk of static IP
> addresses. I
> KNOW what IP addresses are - but why do we need them for a TV
> content machine?
> I have ADSL delivery of internet and email content to my home, so ip
> addresses,
> static or otherwise, really have no place in the scheme of things.
> That is
> all handled 'magically' (read invisibly) for me.
>
> Steve.

ALL computers have an IP address. That's how they identify themselves
when connecting to any other computer in any way.
Based on your comments here, I would say you definitely should start
with a Myth-specific distribution that will walk you through the setup.

The installation was probably referring to the fact that you should
not be using an IP address that changes (meaning, static. Not
necessarily meaning a static internet-accessible address.) This is
important for distributed systems. However, the IP address doesn't
really matter when you have a combined frontend/backend machine which
sounds like your goal. In this case, your machine's IP address doesn't
matter. Whenever you are asked for the IP address or hostname, you
will enter 127.0.0.1 which means "this machine".
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Dec 25, 2007, 1:25 PM

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Re: MythTV - help please! [In reply to]

> The first problem I had with the guide was talk of static IP addresses. I
> KNOW what IP addresses are - but why do we need them for a TV content machine?
> I have ADSL delivery of internet and email content to my home, so ip addresses,
> static or otherwise, really have no place in the scheme of things. That is
> all handled 'magically' (read invisibly) for me.

If you've got a combined FE/BE that you're not going to be connecting
to from any other machine, and you're not planning on using Mythweb,
then no, you don't need a static address.

The point of setting one up is so that your Myth box is at a fixed
location on your network and is not going to have its IP address
randomly changed by DHCP. You basically need a fixed address if you
have remote FEs, if you want to use Mythweb, or if you want to be able
to ssh into the box from another machine -- very useful for those of
us who don't have keyboards attached.

Still, setting a static IP is not a difficult thing to do,
particularly on a home network. Depending on your distro, there are
most likely GUI tools for setting this up. Just give your Myth machine
whatever address you want, (e.g. 192.168.1.201), put in the subnet
mask (255.255.255.0), and point it to the address of your
gateway/router (most likely 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1).

> Ok. I'm not going to reinstall the OS again - that has been done at least
> 10 times over the past year. I am over OS installs. ANd the attandent lib
> updates.

You can do things the hard way, by installing everything from scratch,
breaking things, fixing some of them, losing track of what's been
broken and what's been fixed and how, updating selectively, trying to
use incompatible kernels and modules, and insisting on trying to patch
the damage with duct tape and a hammer.

Or you can do it the easy way. I can definitely recommend both
MythDora and Knoppmyth, though I lean towards MythDora simply because
I have more experience with RH/Fedora. Assuming you have standard,
supported hardware, you should have everything installed and running
within about 25 minutes.

As Brad said earlier, if you run into problems, just come back here
with the specific problem or question. Folks are happy to help out.
Generalized bitching, however, won't get you much help.
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greg12866 at nycap

Dec 25, 2007, 1:30 PM

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sa_cooke [at] iprimus wrote:
>>> That's a great place to start. Unfortunately, it's hard to help with a
>>> generic problem like, "It just won't work" or "my installation is
>>> unusuable". I would recommend starting from scratch. Reformat the
>>> drive, install the OS again, start at the beginning with the guide and
>>> when you run into a problem, ask a specific question about that
>>> particular problem to get you through to the next step.
>>>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Ok. I'm not going to reinstall the OS again - that has been done at least
> 10 times over the past year. I am over OS installs. ANd the attandent lib
> updates.
>
> The first problem I had with the guide was talk of static IP addresses. I
> KNOW what IP addresses are - but why do we need them for a TV content machine?
> I have ADSL delivery of internet and email content to my home, so ip addresses,
> static or otherwise, really have no place in the scheme of things. That is
> all handled 'magically' (read invisibly) for me.
>
> Steve.
>
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>
>
Steve,
I always just skip over the static network change..The default ip
has always worked for me..I have used that guide many times, and i have
always had my system up and running in no time...There are a few
outdated paragraphs in the guide,like the location of mc.sql, but doing
a search for it and changing the path it will work...The only other
thing i can think of is lirc is installed by default now and you only
need install lirc-kmdl-$KVER...
I am no expert in Mythtv or Linux, but i have enjoyed
learning....Post your questions here,there is many people here eager to
help....
Greg
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Dec 25, 2007, 1:57 PM

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Re: MythTV - help please! [In reply to]

Actually, if you want a system up and running quickly MythDora etc is the way to go. If you want to try to get yours working, you'll want to provide more info on what's going wrong. The best way to do this is by looking at log files. If you have mythbackend running on boot, you can kill this and just open a terminal and type mythbackend also do the same for mythfrontend. Myth is good about giving you hints on errors so if you can post the log info it'll be easier to help.

----- Original Message ----
From: "sa_cooke [at] iprimus" <sa_cooke [at] iprimus>
To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 1:54:01 PM
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV - help please!

>>
>> That's a great place to start. Unfortunately, it's hard to help with
a
>> generic problem like, "It just won't work" or "my installation is
>> unusuable". I would recommend starting from scratch. Reformat the
>> drive, install the OS again, start at the beginning with the guide
and
>> when you run into a problem, ask a specific question about that
>> particular problem to get you through to the next step.

Hi Tim,

Ok. I'm not going to reinstall the OS again - that has been done at
least
10 times over the past year. I am over OS installs. ANd the attandent
lib
updates.

The first problem I had with the guide was talk of static IP addresses.
I
KNOW what IP addresses are - but why do we need them for a TV content
machine?
I have ADSL delivery of internet and email content to my home, so ip
addresses,
static or otherwise, really have no place in the scheme of things. That
is
all handled 'magically' (read invisibly) for me.

Steve.

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sa_cooke at iprimus

Dec 25, 2007, 1:58 PM

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>-- Original Message --
>From: Brad DerManouelian <myth [at] dermanouelian>
>To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
>Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 13:09:21 -0800
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV - help please!
>Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
>
>
>On Dec 25, 2007, at 12:54 PM, sa_cooke [at] iprimus wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Ok. I'm not going to reinstall the OS again - that has been done at
>> least
>> 10 times over the past year. I am over OS installs. ANd the
>> attandent lib
>> updates.
>>
>> The first problem I had with the guide was talk of static IP
>> addresses. I
>> KNOW what IP addresses are - but why do we need them for a TV
>> content machine?
>> I have ADSL delivery of internet and email content to my home, so ip

>> addresses,
>> static or otherwise, really have no place in the scheme of things.
>> That is
>> all handled 'magically' (read invisibly) for me.
>>
>> Steve.
>
>ALL computers have an IP address. That's how they identify themselves
>when connecting to any other computer in any way.
>Based on your comments here, I would say you definitely should start
>with a Myth-specific distribution that will walk you through the setup.

Sorry Brad, I don't know that I made myself clear. I do not need help with
IP addresses in general. I am a professional computer programmer with over
10 years experience in a number of languages on a variety of platforms, and
my experience includes design, build, and maintenance of distributed systems.
I understand IP addresses. My question was specific to MythTV.

I appreciate people giving up their time to help others (me in this case!)
- that is why this online community, and others like it, are so successful.
However, I was a little taken aback by your comments. On further reading
of the MythTV documentation I now understand that one can distribute the
frontend and backend servers - I simply had no need to do that (as you rightly
guessed) so had skipped that part in the past.

Steve.

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sa_cooke at iprimus

Dec 25, 2007, 2:04 PM

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Re: MythTV - help please! [In reply to]

>Steve,
> I always just skip over the static network change..The default ip

>has always worked for me..I have used that guide many times, and i have

>always had my system up and running in no time...There are a few
>outdated paragraphs in the guide,like the location of mc.sql, but doing

>a search for it and changing the path it will work...The only other
>thing i can think of is lirc is installed by default now and you only
>need install lirc-kmdl-$KVER...
> I am no expert in Mythtv or Linux, but i have enjoyed
>learning....Post your questions here,there is many people here eager to

>help....
>Greg

Thanks Greg,

I will. Like you, I enjoy the tinkering - when I have time that is! And that
(no) time factor has probably led to my frustration over the last year -
I have had no time to REALLY sit down and understand what is going on. I
have a couple of days now so I'm trying again.

Steve.

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kgross at jensalt

Dec 25, 2007, 2:12 PM

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sa_cooke [at] iprimus wrote:
>>> That's a great place to start. Unfortunately, it's hard to help with a
>>> generic problem like, "It just won't work" or "my installation is
>>> unusuable". I would recommend starting from scratch. Reformat the
>>> drive, install the OS again, start at the beginning with the guide and
>>> when you run into a problem, ask a specific question about that
>>> particular problem to get you through to the next step.
>>>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Ok. I'm not going to reinstall the OS again - that has been done at least
> 10 times over the past year. I am over OS installs. ANd the attandent lib
> updates.
>
> The first problem I had with the guide was talk of static IP addresses. I
> KNOW what IP addresses are - but why do we need them for a TV content machine?
> I have ADSL delivery of internet and email content to my home, so ip addresses,
> static or otherwise, really have no place in the scheme of things. That is
> all handled 'magically' (read invisibly) for me.
>
> Steve.
>
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>
>
To be able to communicate with other machines on your network, or in the
world, the box needs a correct IP address. You should be safe just
setting it up with DHCP to obtain the IP address.

Kim

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kgross at jensalt

Dec 25, 2007, 2:16 PM

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sa_cooke [at] iprimus wrote:
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: Brad DerManouelian <myth [at] dermanouelian>
>> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
>> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 13:09:21 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV - help please!
>> Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 25, 2007, at 12:54 PM, sa_cooke [at] iprimus wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>
>>> Ok. I'm not going to reinstall the OS again - that has been done at
>>> least
>>> 10 times over the past year. I am over OS installs. ANd the
>>> attandent lib
>>> updates.
>>>
>>> The first problem I had with the guide was talk of static IP
>>> addresses. I
>>> KNOW what IP addresses are - but why do we need them for a TV
>>> content machine?
>>> I have ADSL delivery of internet and email content to my home, so ip
>>>
>
>
>>> addresses,
>>> static or otherwise, really have no place in the scheme of things.
>>> That is
>>> all handled 'magically' (read invisibly) for me.
>>>
>>> Steve.
>>>
>> ALL computers have an IP address. That's how they identify themselves
>> when connecting to any other computer in any way.
>> Based on your comments here, I would say you definitely should start
>> with a Myth-specific distribution that will walk you through the setup.
>>
>
>
> Sorry Brad, I don't know that I made myself clear. I do not need help with
> IP addresses in general. I am a professional computer programmer with over
> 10 years experience in a number of languages on a variety of platforms, and
> my experience includes design, build, and maintenance of distributed systems.
> I understand IP addresses. My question was specific to MythTV.
>
>
Mythtv has no specific IP requirements other than the backend needs to
be at a static IP address if you have multiple frontend/backend
machines. Mythtv is so capable it can have multiple frontend machines
each displaying a different TV show and multiple backends each recording
different shows. All of these machines need to communicate with each
other, so if all machines have dynamic IP address's there will be
problems finding the backends since the IP addresses can change.

So if you have multiple Myth machines setup them up behind a router and
use local static IP addresses, if you only have one machine it does not
matter since you can use the loopback IP for everything.

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Dec 25, 2007, 4:51 PM

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Steve Cooke wrote:

>
> I give up. I'd really like to get this working, but I cannot see how it
> is possible. It simply does not want to work on linux. I don't know
> where else to turn to - so, in the same way as we RTFM when all else
> fails, I now admit defeat by turning to the MythTV users list...

I guess the secret is out: MythTV is in fact a myth. Nobody here has
ever actually got a system to work, and we have all been just making up
our questions and answers for many years :-)

The list is not a place to turn after admitting defeat, it is a place to
get continuing advice while setting your systems.

Given your situation I would agree with the other posters and suggest
that, at least for your first system, you consider going with a
pre-built system like KnoppMyth, Mythdora or Mythbuntu. Generally you
can get a working system up in less than an hour, assuming you are using
known-to-work hardware.

beww

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sa_cooke at iprimus

Dec 25, 2007, 5:45 PM

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>-- Original Message --
>Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 17:51:51 -0700
>From: Brian Wood <beww [at] beww>

>> I give up. I'd really like to get this working, but I cannot see how it
>
>> is possible. It simply does not want to work on linux. I don't know
>> where else to turn to - so, in the same way as we RTFM when all else
>> fails, I now admit defeat by turning to the MythTV users list...
>
>I guess the secret is out: MythTV is in fact a myth. Nobody here has
>ever actually got a system to work, and we have all been just making up
>our questions and answers for many years :-)

I was actually starting to believe the list was a myth as well!! :-)

>The list is not a place to turn after admitting defeat, it is a place to
>get continuing advice while setting your systems.

Ummm, I believe that was what I asked for...

Steve.

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Dec 25, 2007, 6:59 PM

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sa_cooke [at] iprimus wrote:
>> -- Original Message --
>> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 17:51:51 -0700
>> From: Brian Wood <beww [at] beww>
>
>>> I give up. I'd really like to get this working, but I cannot see how it
>>> is possible. It simply does not want to work on linux. I don't know
>>> where else to turn to - so, in the same way as we RTFM when all else
>>> fails, I now admit defeat by turning to the MythTV users list...
>> I guess the secret is out: MythTV is in fact a myth. Nobody here has
>> ever actually got a system to work, and we have all been just making up
>> our questions and answers for many years :-)
>
> I was actually starting to believe the list was a myth as well!! :-)
>
>
>> The list is not a place to turn after admitting defeat, it is a place to
>> get continuing advice while setting your systems.
>
> Ummm, I believe that was what I asked for...
>

Hmmm. I thought you specifically said you were turning to the list
because you were admitting defeat, sorry if I mis-interpreted.

But you have got some good advice, I'd look into a pre-built at first.

Posting your hardware might help as well, folks here would probably spot
it if you have hardware that might be problematical.

But perusing the WiKi, if you haven't already, will provide a wide range
of solutions to anything that won't run out-of-the box with a pre-build.

beww
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david at segall

Dec 25, 2007, 7:00 PM

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Re: MythTV - help please! [In reply to]

Steve Cooke wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My first message looks like it failed to get through, so I'm trying again.
>
> I'm beginning to really believe that 'MythTV' is actually that - a myth.
> I have been trying to get mythTV to do what it is claimed to do (allow
> television content to be seen on linux-based machines!) for over a year
> now. Twelve frigging frustrating months. In that time I've seen at least
> one new version of Fedora and at least half a gig of changes to my
> current libraries via yum. I cannot even get the Australian television
> station config file to appear in the appropriate place when trying to
> configure the 'backend' (I think in frustration I renamed it the
> arsehole in the end).
>
> I give up. I'd really like to get this working, but I cannot see how it
> is possible. It simply does not want to work on linux. I don't know
> where else to turn to - so, in the same way as we RTFM when all else
> fails, I now admit defeat by turning to the MythTV users list...
>
> Steve.
Hi Steve,

I tried that route but gave up quickly. I suggest using one of the
integrated distributions. I used Mythdora <http://g-ding.tv/> which
worked almost "out of the box" including installing the Australian guide
grabber. It still required some effort to get it fully operational. The
usual minor, frustrating, problems that recur in this list particularly
with the remote.

I tried Mythbuntu <http://www.mythbuntu.com/> the other day and it
really did work immediately after I installed it. However, this was not
a fair comparison because it was only a front end.

David
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