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gfmeriaux at verizon

Aug 31, 2007, 12:23 PM

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FIOS Channels over Firewire

Hi,

I live in the Boston area and I am thinking to get FIOS TV.
It is my understanding reading previous posts that all the local channels are available in both SD and HD digital unencrypted on the cable and can be received directly with for example an HDHomeRun device.

Verizon is offering a QIP-6200 STB which has Firewire support with Mythtv.
Has somebody experience using firewire with FIOS?
What channels others than locals can I received unencrypted over firewire ?

Thanks,
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gfmeriaux at verizon

Aug 31, 2007, 12:23 PM

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FIOS Channels over Firewire [In reply to]

gfmeriaux at verizon

Aug 31, 2007, 12:23 PM

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FIOS Channels over Firewire [In reply to]

gfmeriaux at verizon

Aug 31, 2007, 12:24 PM

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FIOS Channels over Firewire [In reply to]

gfmeriaux at verizon

Aug 31, 2007, 12:24 PM

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FIOS Channels over Firewire [In reply to]

jerrymr at gmail

Aug 31, 2007, 12:46 PM

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Re: FIOS Channels over Firewire [In reply to]

On 8/31/07, gfmeriaux [at] verizon <gfmeriaux [at] verizon> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I live in the Boston area and I am thinking to get FIOS TV.
> It is my understanding reading previous posts that all the local channels are available in both SD and HD digital unencrypted on the cable and can be received directly with for example an HDHomeRun device.
>
> Verizon is offering a QIP-6200 STB which has Firewire support with Mythtv.
> Has somebody experience using firewire with FIOS?
> What channels others than locals can I received unencrypted over firewire ?

We read you loud and clear out here in mythtv-users land. I have
Verizon FIOS (in the Philadelphia area), and I'm currently getting HD
via QAM using an AverTV A180 board. I first tried using firewire out
of the QIP-6200, and found three channels that had the copy-once bit
turned on (i.e. they came out scrambled over the firewire). Verizon
acknowledged that none of the OTA should be scrambled, and at first
claimed it wasn't their fault. I was a squeeky wheel and eventually
they started looking into it, but in the meantime I got fed up and
switched to the QAM route, where none of the OTA channels had any
problems.

This was at least six months ago, so who knows, it may be better now.

I found that only the SD and HD versions of local channels were
available over QAM and firewire. None of premium or non-premium
digital channels were, not even the SD non-premiums.

-Jerry
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jra at baylink

Aug 31, 2007, 1:04 PM

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Re: FIOS Channels over Firewire [In reply to]

On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 03:46:16PM -0400, Jerry Rubinow wrote:
> I found that only the SD and HD versions of local channels were
> available over QAM and firewire. None of premium or non-premium
> digital channels were, not even the SD non-premiums.

I believe the latter fact *also* violates the FCC reg, does it not?

Cheers,
-- jra
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dsr-myth at tao

Aug 31, 2007, 1:28 PM

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Re: FIOS Channels over Firewire [In reply to]

On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 04:04:45PM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 03:46:16PM -0400, Jerry Rubinow wrote:
> > I found that only the SD and HD versions of local channels were
> > available over QAM and firewire. None of premium or non-premium
> > digital channels were, not even the SD non-premiums.
>
> I believe the latter fact *also* violates the FCC reg, does it not?

Does it? I had thought that only "must carry" local stations
were required.

Comcast follows that, plus two shopping channels. (Oy.)

-dsr-

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jra at baylink

Aug 31, 2007, 1:36 PM

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Re: FIOS Channels over Firewire [In reply to]

On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 04:28:50PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 04:04:45PM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 03:46:16PM -0400, Jerry Rubinow wrote:
> > > I found that only the SD and HD versions of local channels were
> > > available over QAM and firewire. None of premium or non-premium
> > > digital channels were, not even the SD non-premiums.
> >
> > I believe the latter fact *also* violates the FCC reg, does it not?
>
> Does it? I had thought that only "must carry" local stations
> were required.
>
> Comcast follows that, plus two shopping channels. (Oy.)

Hmmm. I'm clearly going to have to go back and re-read the actual reg.

Cheers,
-- jra
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jerrymr at gmail

Aug 31, 2007, 1:42 PM

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Re: FIOS Channels over Firewire [In reply to]

On 8/31/07, Dan Ritter <dsr-myth [at] tao> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 04:04:45PM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 03:46:16PM -0400, Jerry Rubinow wrote:
> > > I found that only the SD and HD versions of local channels were
> > > available over QAM and firewire. None of premium or non-premium
> > > digital channels were, not even the SD non-premiums.
> >
> > I believe the latter fact *also* violates the FCC reg, does it not?
>
> Does it? I had thought that only "must carry" local stations
> were required.
>
> Comcast follows that, plus two shopping channels. (Oy.)
>
> -dsr-

Oh that's right - FIOS also provided the shopping channels plus a
couple of religious channels. I forgot since I removed them from my
channel table.

I echo Dan's question about why not providing non-OTA digital channels
would violate FCC regs.

-Jerry
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