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mark at nugatory

Aug 30, 2007, 2:38 PM

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Twittering about your mythtv recordings

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Hi,

I've put together a perl script which posts your recorded shows to
twitter.com

It's designed to be executed via the UserJob mechanism.

If anyone's interested the implementation details & instructions are here:

http://www.nugatory.co.uk/~mark/2007/08/29/twitter-your-mythtv-recordings-with-a-perl-userjob/

The latest version can be retrieved from here:

http://www.nugatory.co.uk/%7Emark/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/mythtwit-001.tgz

Cheers
Mark

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trgreer at gmail

Aug 30, 2007, 2:47 PM

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Re: Twittering about your mythtv recordings [In reply to]

On 8/30/07, Mark <mark [at] nugatory> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I've put together a perl script which posts your recorded shows to
> twitter.com
>
> Post recorded TV broadcasts on the web. Bad idea. Can you spell
"copyright violation"?

Please don't post this type of thing here.

Tom

carlfongheiser at gmail

Aug 30, 2007, 2:55 PM

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On 8/30/07, Tom Greer <trgreer [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>
> Post recorded TV broadcasts on the web. Bad idea. Can you spell
> "copyright violation"?
>
> Please don't post this type of thing here.

It's not posting the recordings themselves, just the channel, time and
title.

Carl Fongheiser

myth at dermanouelian

Aug 30, 2007, 2:56 PM

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Re: Twittering about your mythtv recordings [In reply to]

On Aug 30, 2007, at 2:47 PM, Tom Greer wrote:

> On 8/30/07, Mark <mark [at] nugatory> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I've put together a perl script which posts your recorded shows to
> twitter.com
>
> Post recorded TV broadcasts on the web. Bad idea. Can you spell
> "copyright violation"?

It actually just posts what was recorded, not the content.
Personally, I prefer making an RSS feed of everything that I recorded
and look through that. :)

mark at nugatory

Aug 30, 2007, 2:56 PM

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Re: Twittering about your mythtv recordings [In reply to]

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> Post recorded TV broadcasts on the web. Bad idea. Can you spell
> "copyright violation"?

Allow me to rephrase:

"I've put together a perl script which posts a summary (show name,
broadcast time and channel) of your recorded shows to twitter.com."

I apologize if my original post was not clear enough.

Anyone familiar with the twitter service will be aware it offers a
simple interface (and excellent API) to share tidbits of information.

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gull at gull

Aug 30, 2007, 2:56 PM

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Re: Twittering about your mythtv recordings [In reply to]

On Aug 30, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Carl Fongheiser wrote:

> On 8/30/07, Tom Greer <trgreer [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> Post recorded TV broadcasts on the web. Bad idea. Can you spell
> "copyright violation"?
>
> Please don't post this type of thing here.
>
> It's not posting the recordings themselves, just the channel, time
> and title.

I think someone's knees are a little jerky today. ;)

jedi at mishnet

Aug 30, 2007, 3:04 PM

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Re: Twittering about your mythtv recordings [In reply to]

On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:56:24PM +0100, Mark wrote:
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> > Post recorded TV broadcasts on the web. Bad idea. Can you spell
> > "copyright violation"?
>
> Allow me to rephrase:
>
> "I've put together a perl script which posts a summary (show name,
> broadcast time and channel) of your recorded shows to twitter.com."

1) This is redundant.
2) This is more likely than not a violation of the Terms of Service
of whatever your source for program listings is.

>
> I apologize if my original post was not clear enough.
>
> Anyone familiar with the twitter service will be aware it offers a
> simple interface (and excellent API) to share tidbits of information.

[deletia]
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linuxdreas at dslextreme

Aug 30, 2007, 3:27 PM

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Re: Twittering about your mythtv recordings [In reply to]

Le Donnerstag, 30. August 2007, Kevin Hulse a �crit�:
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:56:24PM +0100, Mark wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> >
> > > Post recorded TV broadcasts on the web. Bad idea. Can you spell
> > > "copyright violation"?
> >
> > Allow me to rephrase:
> >
> > "I've put together a perl script which posts a summary (show name,
> > broadcast time and channel) of your recorded shows to twitter.com."
>
> 1) This is redundant.

In which way is the script redundant? I am not aware of a solution from the
MythTV website for twitter.com

> 2) This is more likely than not a violation of the Terms of Service
> of whatever your source for program listings is.

Would you please explain where you see the violation? Have you tried Mark's
script or looked at twitter.com for postings created with that script?

>
> > I apologize if my original post was not clear enough.
> >
> > Anyone familiar with the twitter service will be aware it offers a
> > simple interface (and excellent API) to share tidbits of information.
>

--
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gull at gull

Aug 30, 2007, 3:27 PM

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Re: Twittering about your mythtv recordings [In reply to]

On Aug 30, 2007, at 3:04 PM, Kevin Hulse wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:56:24PM +0100, Mark wrote:
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>>> Post recorded TV broadcasts on the web. Bad idea. Can you spell
>>> "copyright violation"?
>>
>> Allow me to rephrase:
>>
>> "I've put together a perl script which posts a summary (show name,
>> broadcast time and channel) of your recorded shows to twitter.com."
>
> 1) This is redundant.
> 2) This is more likely than not a violation of the Terms of Service
> of whatever your source for program listings is.

How is this any more a violation of ToS than saying, "Hey, I watched
NBC News at 6 last night" in a blog?

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support at ocg

Aug 30, 2007, 5:08 PM

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Re: Twittering about your mythtv recordings [In reply to]

Everyone loves to get up on a pedestal and preach now and then....

Policy and law are formed from the norms of society. That means until the
public pushes the bounds of what is legal (but wrong), nothing will change.
Do you think any major studio would have dropped DRM on music were it not
being defeated around the globe by millions of mp3-player owners? These
businesses are learning to adapt their business model to embrace fair use by
paying consumers.

Let's not beat up on people who are acting reasonably (i.e. "fair use").
Unless this script is designed to profit from the show data, or someone
prevent the copyright holder from earning due income, I don't think anyone
should criticize....

I'm now off to watch a rented DVD movie using myth - which of course breaks
the law since there is no licensed DVD decrypter for Linux....

Your fellow criminal,
MD
:)

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> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 6:28 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Twittering about your mythtv recordings
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2007, at 3:04 PM, Kevin Hulse wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:56:24PM +0100, Mark wrote:
> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >> Hash: SHA1
> >>
> >>> Post recorded TV broadcasts on the web. Bad idea. Can you spell
> >>> "copyright violation"?
> >>
> >> Allow me to rephrase:
> >>
> >> "I've put together a perl script which posts a summary (show name,
> >> broadcast time and channel) of your recorded shows to twitter.com."
> >
> > 1) This is redundant.
> > 2) This is more likely than not a violation of the Terms of Service
> > of whatever your source for program listings is.
>
> How is this any more a violation of ToS than saying, "Hey, I
> watched NBC News at 6 last night" in a blog?
>
>
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jra at baylink

Aug 31, 2007, 6:29 AM

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Re: Twittering about your mythtv recordings [In reply to]

On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 05:04:12PM -0500, Kevin Hulse wrote:
> > "I've put together a perl script which posts a summary (show name,
> > broadcast time and channel) of your recorded shows to twitter.com."
>
> 1) This is redundant.
> 2) This is more likely than not a violation of the Terms of Service
> of whatever your source for program listings is.

Could you, and Tom, both tie your knees together so they don't jerk
quite so much?

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jedi at mishnet

Aug 31, 2007, 6:56 AM

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Re: Twittering about your mythtv recordings [In reply to]

> On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 05:04:12PM -0500, Kevin Hulse wrote:
>> > "I've put together a perl script which posts a summary (show name,
>> > broadcast time and channel) of your recorded shows to twitter.com."
>>
>> 1) This is redundant.
>> 2) This is more likely than not a violation of the Terms of Service
>> of whatever your source for program listings is.
>
> Could you, and Tom, both tie your knees together so they don't jerk
> quite so much?

That's a rather assinine comment considering that TMS already has
tried to take it's ball and go home just recently. Only a fool under-
estimates a corporation's willingess to cut off it's own nose to spite
it's face. Nevermind actions which may actually be inconsequential.

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stone.matthew at gmail

Aug 31, 2007, 7:47 AM

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Re: Twittering about your mythtv recordings [In reply to]

On 8/30/07, Mark <mark [at] nugatory> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hi,
>
> I've put together a perl script which posts your recorded shows to
> twitter.com
>
> It's designed to be executed via the UserJob mechanism.
>
> If anyone's interested the implementation details & instructions are here:
>
> http://www.nugatory.co.uk/~mark/2007/08/29/twitter-your-mythtv-recordings-with-a-perl-userjob/
>
> The latest version can be retrieved from here:
>
> http://www.nugatory.co.uk/%7Emark/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/mythtwit-001.tgz
>

Ooo, thanks for that. I started work on a bash script to do exactly
that a few weeks back and haven't had time to finish it. You've just
given me this saturday morning back :)

Cheers
Matt
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gull at gull

Aug 31, 2007, 9:35 AM

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Re: Twittering about your mythtv recordings [In reply to]

On Aug 31, 2007, at 6:56 AM, jedi [at] mishnet wrote:

>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 05:04:12PM -0500, Kevin Hulse wrote:
>>>> "I've put together a perl script which posts a summary (show name,
>>>> broadcast time and channel) of your recorded shows to twitter.com."
>>>
>>> 1) This is redundant.
>>> 2) This is more likely than not a violation of the Terms of Service
>>> of whatever your source for program listings is.
>>
>> Could you, and Tom, both tie your knees together so they don't jerk
>> quite so much?
>
> That's a rather assinine comment considering that TMS already has
> tried to take it's ball and go home just recently. Only a fool under-
> estimates a corporation's willingess to cut off it's own nose to spite
> it's face. Nevermind actions which may actually be inconsequential.

Come on, pull the other one.

We're talking about posting name, time, and channel information about
shows that have ALREADY AIRED. This makes the data useless for any
kind of scheduling. ILike I said before, your comment is like
arguing that if I say "Hey, I watched The Simpsons last night at 8 pm
on FOX" I'm somehow violating the terms of service of my TV listings
provider. It's silly.

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david at shay

Aug 31, 2007, 10:02 AM

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Re: Twittering about your mythtv recordings [In reply to]

On 8/30/07, Kevin Hulse <jedi [at] mishnet> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:56:24PM +0100, Mark wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > > Post recorded TV broadcasts on the web. Bad idea. Can you spell
> > > "copyright violation"?
> >
> > Allow me to rephrase:
> >
> > "I've put together a perl script which posts a summary (show name,
> > broadcast time and channel) of your recorded shows to twitter.com."
>
> 1) This is redundant.
> 2) This is more likely than not a violation of the Terms of Service
> of whatever your source for program listings is.

Show titles are not copyrighted. If you look at the actual code in
play here (I did), you would see that the only thing being passed is
channel id and title. In the case of TMS as a source, they might be
upset if you started to post descriptions, which they can claim
authorship of -- that is not the case here at all.

Furthermore, how could anyone even know where this data came from?
Did it come from an automated program? Did it come from a 12 year old
that someone pays 2$/hour to keep up with what someone watches? Even
if it came from a program, where was it's source? It could have been
EIT, after all, or data that started off as listings data from one
source and was then overwritten by EIT.....
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