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seven at seven

Aug 21, 2007, 9:58 PM

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XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv

With this great news I hope this further integrates mythtv and XBMC :)

http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/wiki/index.php?title=Linux_port_project
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philledwards at gmail

Aug 22, 2007, 2:07 AM

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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

> With this great news I hope this further integrates mythtv and XBMC :)
>
> http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/wiki/index.php?title=Linux_port_project

I'm not sure how it would be better than a mythfrontend. The main
value I see in this at the moment is that booting linux on an Xbox
takes a long time and it runs slowly, whereas the XBMC solution turns
an Xbox into a fast booting/performing frontend to access and play
MythTV recordings. But if you're going to have to boot up linux anyway
the whole boot time problem is still there so you may as well go with
mythfrontend.
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bill at bbqninja

Aug 22, 2007, 3:40 AM

Post #3 of 22 (2034 views)
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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

On 8/22/07, Phill Edwards <philledwards [at] gmail> wrote:
> > With this great news I hope this further integrates mythtv and XBMC :)
> >
> > http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/wiki/index.php?title=Linux_port_project
>
> I'm not sure how it would be better than a mythfrontend. The main
> value I see in this at the moment is that booting linux on an Xbox
> takes a long time and it runs slowly, whereas the XBMC solution turns
> an Xbox into a fast booting/performing frontend to access and play
> MythTV recordings. But if you're going to have to boot up linux anyway
> the whole boot time problem is still there so you may as well go with
> mythfrontend.


IMO (and I'm sure it's shared) XBMC is FAR superior for playing back
videos and music. It has an easy enqueue/playlist building/saving
mechanism and is a "front end only" solution. It allows you to play
files off a network but also will:
-find local files
-publish those files using uPnP
-find any other XBMC's on the network (or other uPnP servers) and make
their contents browsable.

This means that while you can store everything on a backend network
share it also works just as well finding content on different XBMCs.

This is something mythtv sorely lacks. My biggest complaint about
Myth is that it's still not sure what's the backend and what's the
frontend. Mythvideo "run" on the frontend, but the video list is
shared onto the backend. The same is true with mythmusic.

In a perfect world myth frontends would only connect on a single port
to the mythbackend, and wouldn't need NFS/mysql/etc. In a
super-perfect world, mythbackend would be a uPnP server with either
myth-specific extensions for liveTV and scheduling or by using a
second "control" port to speak a myth specific protocol (I know work
is ongoing for uPnP).

I LOVE mythtv, and know that it's a labor of love and sweat, so don't
mean this as random bashing, but the overall systems architecture of
myth has seemingly evolved and never set down and designed.
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seven at seven

Aug 22, 2007, 6:50 AM

Post #4 of 22 (2026 views)
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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

Yeah I agree, the XBMC Gui is far superior to the Mythtv Frontend if this
became the sudo mythtv frontend this would be a big step forward for both
platforms, the main reasons for the port is the lack of High Def support on
Xbox and to further increase the user/dev base for XBMC.


On 8/22/07, Phill Edwards <philledwards [at] gmail> wrote:
> > With this great news I hope this further integrates mythtv and XBMC :)
> >
> > http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/wiki/index.php?title=Linux_port_project
>
> I'm not sure how it would be better than a mythfrontend. The main
> value I see in this at the moment is that booting linux on an Xbox
> takes a long time and it runs slowly, whereas the XBMC solution turns
> an Xbox into a fast booting/performing frontend to access and play
> MythTV recordings. But if you're going to have to boot up linux anyway
> the whole boot time problem is still there so you may as well go with
> mythfrontend.


IMO (and I'm sure it's shared) XBMC is FAR superior for playing back
videos and music. It has an easy enqueue/playlist building/saving
mechanism and is a "front end only" solution. It allows you to play
files off a network but also will:
-find local files
-publish those files using uPnP
-find any other XBMC's on the network (or other uPnP servers) and make
their contents browsable.

This means that while you can store everything on a backend network
share it also works just as well finding content on different XBMCs.

This is something mythtv sorely lacks. My biggest complaint about
Myth is that it's still not sure what's the backend and what's the
frontend. Mythvideo "run" on the frontend, but the video list is
shared onto the backend. The same is true with mythmusic.

In a perfect world myth frontends would only connect on a single port
to the mythbackend, and wouldn't need NFS/mysql/etc. In a
super-perfect world, mythbackend would be a uPnP server with either
myth-specific extensions for liveTV and scheduling or by using a
second "control" port to speak a myth specific protocol (I know work
is ongoing for uPnP).

I LOVE mythtv, and know that it's a labor of love and sweat, so don't
mean this as random bashing, but the overall systems architecture of
myth has seemingly evolved and never set down and designed.
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memmott at gmail

Aug 22, 2007, 6:58 AM

Post #5 of 22 (2015 views)
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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

A third for how much better the XBMC is for music and videos. I use Myth for
recording TV, but I export my shows to a Linux server as MPGs or AVIs and
watch them on the XBMC. The interface is just much slicker and more fluid.
If there were a way to mash the two together it would be awesome.

On 8/22/07, Anthony Giggins <seven [at] seven> wrote:
>
> Yeah I agree, the XBMC Gui is far superior to the Mythtv Frontend if this
> became the sudo mythtv frontend this would be a big step forward for both
> platforms, the main reasons for the port is the lack of High Def support
> on
> Xbox and to further increase the user/dev base for XBMC.
>
>
> On 8/22/07, Phill Edwards <philledwards [at] gmail> wrote:
> > > With this great news I hope this further integrates mythtv and XBMC :)
> > >
> > > http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/wiki/index.php?title=Linux_port_project
> >
> > I'm not sure how it would be better than a mythfrontend. The main
> > value I see in this at the moment is that booting linux on an Xbox
> > takes a long time and it runs slowly, whereas the XBMC solution turns
> > an Xbox into a fast booting/performing frontend to access and play
> > MythTV recordings. But if you're going to have to boot up linux anyway
> > the whole boot time problem is still there so you may as well go with
> > mythfrontend.
>
>
> IMO (and I'm sure it's shared) XBMC is FAR superior for playing back
> videos and music. It has an easy enqueue/playlist building/saving
> mechanism and is a "front end only" solution. It allows you to play
> files off a network but also will:
> -find local files
> -publish those files using uPnP
> -find any other XBMC's on the network (or other uPnP servers) and make
> their contents browsable.
>
> This means that while you can store everything on a backend network
> share it also works just as well finding content on different XBMCs.
>
> This is something mythtv sorely lacks. My biggest complaint about
> Myth is that it's still not sure what's the backend and what's the
> frontend. Mythvideo "run" on the frontend, but the video list is
> shared onto the backend. The same is true with mythmusic.
>
> In a perfect world myth frontends would only connect on a single port
> to the mythbackend, and wouldn't need NFS/mysql/etc. In a
> super-perfect world, mythbackend would be a uPnP server with either
> myth-specific extensions for liveTV and scheduling or by using a
> second "control" port to speak a myth specific protocol (I know work
> is ongoing for uPnP).
>
> I LOVE mythtv, and know that it's a labor of love and sweat, so don't
> mean this as random bashing, but the overall systems architecture of
> myth has seemingly evolved and never set down and designed.
> _______________________________________________
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>
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jewell at halcyon

Aug 22, 2007, 2:58 PM

Post #6 of 22 (2022 views)
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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

Phill Edwards wrote:
>> With this great news I hope this further integrates mythtv and XBMC :)
>>
>> http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/wiki/index.php?title=Linux_port_project
>
> I'm not sure how it would be better than a mythfrontend. The main
> value I see in this at the moment is that booting linux on an Xbox
> takes a long time and it runs slowly, whereas the XBMC solution turns
> an Xbox into a fast booting/performing frontend to access and play
> MythTV recordings.

I've got a soft-modded Xbox running Xbox Media Center as my front end
and I love it.

XBMC is an amazing piece of software. My wife and kids can drive it,
it's extensible via python (sadly, no perl to speak of), and it "Just
Works".

Highly recommended.

--
Cal...

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philledwards at gmail

Aug 22, 2007, 5:03 PM

Post #7 of 22 (2000 views)
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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

To all the folks who have reported how much they love XBMC for
watching MythTV recordings, I'm curious to know what you're using to
access them. Are you using the xbmcmythtv python scripts or just
accessing them from the My Videos part of XBMC?
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vbtalent at gmail

Aug 23, 2007, 4:46 AM

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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

What version are you guy's unning? Is it compatible with SVN?

AJM,


memmott at gmail

Aug 23, 2007, 6:38 AM

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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

I'm using the python scripts when they work. It can be a bit buggy so
sometimes I'll run mythrename.pl on the myth box, connect to it via samba
and play the MPGs from XBMC. There has been a bug with Mplayer on XBMC for
some time where it doesn't like to play NUV-wrapped MPGs, so my goal is to
transcode any shows I want to archive to AVIs and keep them on my Linux
media server.

On 8/22/07, Phill Edwards <philledwards [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> To all the folks who have reported how much they love XBMC for
> watching MythTV recordings, I'm curious to know what you're using to
> access them. Are you using the xbmcmythtv python scripts or just
> accessing them from the My Videos part of XBMC?
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scram69 at gmail

Aug 23, 2007, 3:58 PM

Post #10 of 22 (1970 views)
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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

> I've got a soft-modded Xbox running Xbox Media Center as my front end
> and I love it.
>
> XBMC is an amazing piece of software. My wife and kids can drive it,
> it's extensible via python (sadly, no perl to speak of), and it "Just
> Works".
>
> Highly recommended.
>
> --
> Cal...


A question to the XBMC/myth users on this thread: I currently have an XBOX
running Xebian (Cromwell BIOS). I want to turn it into an XBMC mythfrontend
(as opposed to a Xebian mythfrontend). How do I go about converting it to
XBMC? I am fairly certain that I need a different BIOS, but how and in what
order should I go about reflashing the BIOS and transferring/installing the
XBMC files?

Thanks-
Steve


philledwards at gmail

Aug 23, 2007, 7:18 PM

Post #11 of 22 (1973 views)
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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

> and play the MPGs from XBMC. There has been a bug with Mplayer on XBMC for
> some time where it doesn't like to play NUV-wrapped MPGs, so my goal is to
> transcode any shows I want to archive to AVIs and keep them on my Linux
> media server.

I don't think it's a bug. It's something to do with a deliberate
decision by the mplayer guys to not include support for MythTV NUV
files. It's a major PITA and a big negative for xbmcmythtv.
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memmott at gmail

Aug 23, 2007, 9:44 PM

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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

I can't say how to get from Xebian to XBMC, but I can show you the tutorial
I used to hack my Xbox and all subsequent Xboxes to boot into XBMC as their
dashboards. I'm at five and counting:


http://www.productwiki.com/microsoft-xbox/article/how-to-go-from-xbox-to-xbox-media-center-in-30-minutes.html

On 8/23/07, Steve MacLaren <scram69 [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I've got a soft-modded Xbox running Xbox Media Center as my front end
> > and I love it.
> >
> > XBMC is an amazing piece of software. My wife and kids can drive it,
> > it's extensible via python (sadly, no perl to speak of), and it "Just
> > Works".
> >
> > Highly recommended.
> >
> > --
> > Cal...
>
>
> A question to the XBMC/myth users on this thread: I currently have an
> XBOX running Xebian (Cromwell BIOS). I want to turn it into an XBMC
> mythfrontend (as opposed to a Xebian mythfrontend). How do I go about
> converting it to XBMC? I am fairly certain that I need a different BIOS,
> but how and in what order should I go about reflashing the BIOS and
> transferring/installing the XBMC files?
>
> Thanks-
> Steve
>
>
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scram69 at gmail

Aug 24, 2007, 11:51 AM

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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

On 8/23/07, Matt Emmott <memmott [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> I can't say how to get from Xebian to XBMC, but I can show you the
> tutorial I used to hack my Xbox and all subsequent Xboxes to boot into XBMC
> as their dashboards. I'm at five and counting:
>
> http://www.productwiki.com/microsoft-xbox/article/how-to<http://www.productwiki.com/microsoft-xbox/article/how-to-go-from-xbox-to-xbox-media-center-in-30-minutes.html>



Thanks, the problem is I no longer have the initial conditions (xbox bios
and dashboard) necessary to perform step 6.

Considering the xbox is just a PC, in theory, one should be able to arrive
at the final state (xbmc installed) by a combination of re-flashing the bios
and installing the necessary "operating system".

Before I dive into the forum that is linked to by that how-to, I wanted to
see if any of the fairly tech-savvy folks on this list had encountered and
dealt with this issue...


alamar at gmail

Aug 24, 2007, 12:03 PM

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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

>
> Thanks, the problem is I no longer have the initial conditions (xbox bios
> and dashboard) necessary to perform step 6.
>
> Considering the xbox is just a PC, in theory, one should be able to arrive
> at the final state (xbmc installed) by a combination of re-flashing the bios
> and installing the necessary "operating system".
>
> Before I dive into the forum that is linked to by that how-to, I wanted to
> see if any of the fairly tech-savvy folks on this list had encountered and
> dealt with this issue...
>

This isn't a simple proposition. Without getting into gory details,
XBMC requires a hacked MS bios, a pre-compiled XBMC, and xbmcmythtv
python scripts, and a FatX (I think) formatted filesystem.

There are auto-installer disks that will set up a dashboard for you
(check out xbox-scene.com or google for more info) and give you the
ability to FTP the XBMC and xbmcmythtv files onto the harddrive.
These disks will blow away your current HD install, IIRC.

A relatively simple thing to do would be to flash your bios w/ a
hacked MS bios, and build an XBMC/xbmcmythtv DVD. (Instructions are on
the 'net). The hacked MS bios would try to boot off the DVD drive
first, and pull up XBMC for you to use (or try out to be sure you want
to use it on your HD). This will preserve your Linux install; you'd
just need to reflash cromwell to get back to where you are now.

If you _only_ want to use your xbox for XBMC, you can use a BIOS
editing tool and modify a hacked bios to load xbmc.xbe instead of
default.xbe. (This has the effect of auto-running XBMC instead of the
dashboard whenever you turn on the xbox.)

This is all rather far afield of MythTV. Xbox-scene.com is the site
you want (again, IIRC).

Sorry for not being terribly specific, but I haven't looked into this
stuff in ages.

--PhillW.
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scram69 at gmail

Aug 25, 2007, 9:34 AM

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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

On 8/24/07, Phill Wiggin <alamar [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks, the problem is I no longer have the initial conditions (xbox
> bios
> > and dashboard) necessary to perform step 6.
> >
> > Considering the xbox is just a PC, in theory, one should be able to
> arrive
> > at the final state (xbmc installed) by a combination of re-flashing the
> bios
> > and installing the necessary "operating system".
> >
> > Before I dive into the forum that is linked to by that how-to, I wanted
> to
> > see if any of the fairly tech-savvy folks on this list had encountered
> and
> > dealt with this issue...
> >
>
> This isn't a simple proposition. Without getting into gory details,
> XBMC requires a hacked MS bios, a pre-compiled XBMC, and xbmcmythtv
> python scripts, and a FatX (I think) formatted filesystem.
>
> There are auto-installer disks that will set up a dashboard for you
> (check out xbox-scene.com or google for more info) and give you the
> ability to FTP the XBMC and xbmcmythtv files onto the harddrive.
> These disks will blow away your current HD install, IIRC.


Not a problem, I've ftp'd everything I wanted off the thing under Xebian.

A relatively simple thing to do would be to flash your bios w/ a
> hacked MS bios, and build an XBMC/xbmcmythtv DVD. (Instructions are on
> the 'net). The hacked MS bios would try to boot off the DVD drive
> first, and pull up XBMC for you to use (or try out to be sure you want
> to use it on your HD). This will preserve your Linux install; you'd
> just need to reflash cromwell to get back to where you are now.
>
> If you _only_ want to use your xbox for XBMC, you can use a BIOS
> editing tool and modify a hacked bios to load xbmc.xbe instead of
> default.xbe. (This has the effect of auto-running XBMC instead of the
> dashboard whenever you turn on the xbox.)


Thanks for the guidance and the tip about xbmc.xbe. Yes, I only want to use
this as an XBMC mythFE.

This is all rather far afield of MythTV. Xbox-scene.com is the site
> you want (again, IIRC).
>
> Sorry for not being terribly specific, but I haven't looked into this
> stuff in ages.


Phill, I appreciate your help. I've already started combing through the
X-S forum for details. Like I said, the intention is to turn the box into a
dedicated mythFE. I just wanted to get a better understanding of the
process from those here who may have done it themselves.


jtlarson at u

Aug 27, 2007, 8:09 AM

Post #16 of 22 (1893 views)
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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

Steve MacLaren wrote:
> On 8/24/07, Phill Wiggin <alamar [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>>> Thanks, the problem is I no longer have the initial conditions (xbox
>>>
>> bios
>>
>>> and dashboard) necessary to perform step 6.
>>>
>>> Considering the xbox is just a PC, in theory, one should be able to
>>>
>> arrive
>>
>>> at the final state (xbmc installed) by a combination of re-flashing the
>>>
>> bios
>>
>>> and installing the necessary "operating system".
>>>
>>> Before I dive into the forum that is linked to by that how-to, I wanted
>>>
>> to
>>
>>> see if any of the fairly tech-savvy folks on this list had encountered
>>>
>> and
>>
>>> dealt with this issue...
>>>
>>>
>> This isn't a simple proposition. Without getting into gory details,
>> XBMC requires a hacked MS bios, a pre-compiled XBMC, and xbmcmythtv
>> python scripts, and a FatX (I think) formatted filesystem.
>>
>> There are auto-installer disks that will set up a dashboard for you
>> (check out xbox-scene.com or google for more info) and give you the
>> ability to FTP the XBMC and xbmcmythtv files onto the harddrive.
>> These disks will blow away your current HD install, IIRC.
>>
>
>
> Not a problem, I've ftp'd everything I wanted off the thing under Xebian.
>
> A relatively simple thing to do would be to flash your bios w/ a
>
>> hacked MS bios, and build an XBMC/xbmcmythtv DVD. (Instructions are on
>> the 'net). The hacked MS bios would try to boot off the DVD drive
>> first, and pull up XBMC for you to use (or try out to be sure you want
>> to use it on your HD). This will preserve your Linux install; you'd
>> just need to reflash cromwell to get back to where you are now.
>>
>> If you _only_ want to use your xbox for XBMC, you can use a BIOS
>> editing tool and modify a hacked bios to load xbmc.xbe instead of
>> default.xbe. (This has the effect of auto-running XBMC instead of the
>> dashboard whenever you turn on the xbox.)
>>
>
>
> Thanks for the guidance and the tip about xbmc.xbe. Yes, I only want to use
> this as an XBMC mythFE.
>
> This is all rather far afield of MythTV. Xbox-scene.com is the site
>
>> you want (again, IIRC).
>>
>> Sorry for not being terribly specific, but I haven't looked into this
>> stuff in ages.
>>
>
>
> Phill, I appreciate your help. I've already started combing through the
> X-S forum for details. Like I said, the intention is to turn the box into a
> dedicated mythFE. I just wanted to get a better understanding of the
> process from those here who may have done it themselves.
>
If you can get it to the point where it will boot off a boot DVD (don't
remember if Cromwell does this), I'd recommend Auto-Installer Disk (AID)
as a helpful setup tool.


memmott at gmail

Aug 27, 2007, 12:00 PM

Post #17 of 22 (1885 views)
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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

On 8/25/07, Steve MacLaren <scram69 [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 8/24/07, Phill Wiggin <alamar [at] gmail> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks, the problem is I no longer have the initial conditions (xbox
> > bios
> > > and dashboard) necessary to perform step 6.
> > >
> > > Considering the xbox is just a PC, in theory, one should be able to
> > arrive
> > > at the final state (xbmc installed) by a combination of re-flashing
> > the bios
> > > and installing the necessary "operating system".
> > >
> > > Before I dive into the forum that is linked to by that how-to, I
> > wanted to
> > > see if any of the fairly tech-savvy folks on this list had encountered
> > and
> > > dealt with this issue...
> > >
> >
> > This isn't a simple proposition. Without getting into gory details,
> > XBMC requires a hacked MS bios, a pre-compiled XBMC, and xbmcmythtv
> > python scripts, and a FatX (I think) formatted filesystem.
> >
> > There are auto-installer disks that will set up a dashboard for you
> > (check out xbox-scene.com or google for more info) and give you the
> > ability to FTP the XBMC and xbmcmythtv files onto the harddrive.
> > These disks will blow away your current HD install, IIRC.
>
>
> Not a problem, I've ftp'd everything I wanted off the thing under Xebian.
>
> A relatively simple thing to do would be to flash your bios w/ a
> > hacked MS bios, and build an XBMC/xbmcmythtv DVD. (Instructions are on
> > the 'net). The hacked MS bios would try to boot off the DVD drive
> > first, and pull up XBMC for you to use (or try out to be sure you want
> > to use it on your HD). This will preserve your Linux install; you'd
> > just need to reflash cromwell to get back to where you are now.
> >
> > If you _only_ want to use your xbox for XBMC, you can use a BIOS
> > editing tool and modify a hacked bios to load xbmc.xbe instead of
> > default.xbe . (This has the effect of auto-running XBMC instead of the
> > dashboard whenever you turn on the xbox.)
>
>
> Thanks for the guidance and the tip about xbmc.xbe. Yes, I only want to
> use this as an XBMC mythFE.
>
> This is all rather far afield of MythTV. Xbox-scene.com is the site
> > you want (again, IIRC).
> >
> > Sorry for not being terribly specific, but I haven't looked into this
> > stuff in ages.
>
>
> Phill, I appreciate your help. I've already started combing through the
> X-S forum for details. Like I said, the intention is to turn the box into a
> dedicated mythFE. I just wanted to get a better understanding of the
> process from those here who may have done it themselves.
>

The XBMCMythTV Python scripts are usable when you don't have the NUV issues
I mentioned, but it's not a great dedicated front end. From what I've heard,
and you probably know this better than myself, running Myth on Xebian on the
machine is slow as heck. There's a dude in China that will upgrade your Xbox
to 1GHZ/256MB, which should make it a usable front end, but by the time
you've spent the $400 or some odd dollars upgrading it you could build a
nicer front end machine. Unless of course, you know somebody that local can
solder a BGA processor. :)


kane.tse at gmail

Sep 3, 2007, 12:10 AM

Post #18 of 22 (1774 views)
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On 8/27/07, Matt Emmott <memmott [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> I mentioned, but it's not a great dedicated front end. From what I've heard,
> and you probably know this better than myself, running Myth on Xebian on the
> machine is slow as heck.
>

I'm just curious to know how people define slow for MythTV on the
XBox. I just did a clean install of Xebian 1.1.4 and MythTV-0.20.2
today and I got times like this:

A. From power off to MythTV main menu: 1m56s
B. From main menu to TV menu: 2s
C. From TV menu to show recordings menu: 4s
D. From show recordings to playing a show: 20s.

While A and D are a little on the lengthy side, it's hardly unusable.
When I usually do is boot up the XBox and then start getting snacks
ready or whatever. As for D, 20s is quite a while to wait; but
usually one already knows what they're going to watch, so it's not a
like we'll be doing a lot of channel flipping.

As for during watching the program itself, there are virtually no
delays when skipping ahead, skipping back or using any of the time
stretch features. Is there somewhere else where there are huge delays
that I'm not seeing?
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philledwards at gmail

Sep 3, 2007, 12:32 AM

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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

> stretch features. Is there somewhere else where there are huge delays
> that I'm not seeing?

No - I think you've just about got it! It's just that we're an
impatient bunch of media consumers these days, aren't we? We want it
all, and we want it free and we want it NOW :)
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david.whyte at gmail

Sep 3, 2007, 3:56 AM

Post #20 of 22 (1749 views)
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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

On 9/3/07, kanetse [at] gmail <kane.tse [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> I'm just curious to know how people define slow for MythTV on the
> XBox. I just did a clean install of Xebian 1.1.4 and MythTV-0.20.2
> today and I got times like this:
>
> A. From power off to MythTV main menu: 1m56s
> B. From main menu to TV menu: 2s
> C. From TV menu to show recordings menu: 4s
> D. From show recordings to playing a show: 20s.
>
> While A and D are a little on the lengthy side, it's hardly unusable.
> When I usually do is boot up the XBox and then start getting snacks
> ready or whatever. As for D, 20s is quite a while to wait; but
> usually one already knows what they're going to watch, so it's not a
> like we'll be doing a lot of channel flipping.
>
> As for during watching the program itself, there are virtually no
> delays when skipping ahead, skipping back or using any of the time
> stretch features. Is there somewhere else where there are huge delays
> that I'm not seeing?

Nope, that's similar to my 0.20.1 installs. One thing to note is that
once you have gone into LiveTV in the Xbox, surfing to the next
channel isn't slow, it is just the initial loading of the player
itself.

Cheers,
Whytey
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scram69 at gmail

Sep 3, 2007, 12:32 PM

Post #21 of 22 (1758 views)
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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

On 9/3/07, kanetse [at] gmail <kane.tse [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> On 8/27/07, Matt Emmott <memmott [at] gmail> wrote:
> >
> > I mentioned, but it's not a great dedicated front end. From what I've
> heard,
> > and you probably know this better than myself, running Myth on Xebian on
> the
> > machine is slow as heck.
> >
>
> I'm just curious to know how people define slow for MythTV on the
> XBox. I just did a clean install of Xebian 1.1.4 and MythTV-0.20.2
> today


I've just given this a try for the first time earlier today. However,
mythfrontend wont start on the Xbox. I'm still getting the "Client does
not support authentication protocol requested by server" error, even though
I've followed the directions here:
http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Xebian_HOWTO#Install_MythTV
regarding changing the mysql password to the "old style".

Any ideas on why the Xbox frontend can't connect to the DB?


scram69 at gmail

Sep 3, 2007, 6:45 PM

Post #22 of 22 (1736 views)
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Re: XBMC port to Linux and Mythtv [In reply to]

On 9/3/07, Steve MacLaren <scram69 [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 9/3/07, kanetse [at] gmail <kane.tse [at] gmail> wrote:
> >
> > On 8/27/07, Matt Emmott <memmott [at] gmail> wrote:
> > >
> > > I mentioned, but it's not a great dedicated front end. From what I've
> > heard,
> > > and you probably know this better than myself, running Myth on Xebian
> > on the
> > > machine is slow as heck.
> > >
> >
> > I'm just curious to know how people define slow for MythTV on the
> > XBox. I just did a clean install of Xebian 1.1.4 and MythTV-0.20.2
> > today
>
>
> I've just given this a try for the first time earlier today. However,
> mythfrontend wont start on the Xbox. I'm still getting the "Client does
> not support authentication protocol requested by server" error, even though
> I've followed the directions here:
> http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Xebian_HOWTO#Install_MythTV
> regarding changing the mysql password to the "old style".
>
> Any ideas on why the Xbox frontend can't connect to the DB?
>

After a bit more searching, I found the answer to my problem; there is a
better way (in that it works) to change the mysql password to the "old
style" documented here:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/old-client.html

I've gone ahead and added it to the xbox-linux wiki page above.

Has anyone tried mythvideo with Xebian and 0.20.2?

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