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jra at baylink

Aug 8, 2007, 4:51 PM

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Schedules Direct: some more actual info

Unburying this one too, for people who killfiled the long thread;
thanks Daniel.

On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 05:20:13PM -0400, Daniel Kristjansson wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 15:43 -0600, Brian Wood wrote:
> > On Tuesday 07 August 2007 15:09, Braindead wrote:
> > > A non-profit organization doesn't mean people aren't going to
> > > profit, even though technically they are receiving compensation
> > > for services. Many people who run non-profit organizations make
> > > huge salaries, they aren't profits technically.
> > >
> > > I'm not suggesting that's the case here (I certainly hope it's
> > > not). But just because an organization is "non profit" doesn't
> > > really mean much at all.
> >
> > "Non-profit" can mean a lot of things. Most people confuse
> > "non-profit" with 403C (I think) which means that contributions to
> > that entity are tax-deductible. You can also have a "non-profit"
> > that does not meet those requirements.
> >
> > You also have to deal with various legal matters, like what happens
> > to the corporations assets if it disolves, I believe there is some
> > requirement that contributed funds go someplace in keeping with
> > the intent of the contributors. All these things have to be worked
> > out, and I suspect the Myth developers are getting an education in
> > matters they never had to deal with previously, ultimately to the
> > benefit of us all.
>
> Yup, we had to name some non-profits to get any remnants upon
> dissolution. I think it was the EFF and the FSF, but don't quote me on
> that, I would want to check our records. And we are not a 501(c)(3),
> there is a many month application process for this. Though we will
> almost certainly apply for some type of favorable IRS status within
> the 18 month retroactive period. As Chris noted the board members are
> unpaid and have spent considerable time and more money than Chris
> mentioned on various aspects of getting this operation going.
>
> There should be an official announcement on schedulesdirect.org very
> soon.
>
> *** I'll try to explain some of this here, just don't take it as ***
> *** the official word on things, as this e-mail hasn't been run by ***
> *** the other board members or our lawyers. ***
>
> We're still working out the actual fee and payment methods, but we
> have tested paypal integration and have looked at other payment
> methods. Because of the time constraints we will start with only a
> limited selection of automated donation methods where the listings
> data will be a member benefit. We will, of course, accept larger
> donations and contacting us will get you in touch with the right
> person for that. Because we don't know how many people will sign up,
> we will start with a relatively high quarterly membership fee which
> can just barely support the service if 10% of PVR users sign up. But
> we assume many more will sign up and allow us to have a much lower
> membership fee; we will have a better idea in about three months. The
> initial fee will be somewhere in the neighborhood of $15 for three
> months, and the low target we hope to achieve within the first year is
> somewhere around $20 for twelve months.
>
> We've negotiated access to the TMS data for both Canada and the USA,
> and for at least the first three months the data will be provided
> by through us but via TMS's Data Direct servers. We will handle all
> user support and billing problems. After the first three months we
> hope to switch to our own servers which will lower our per user cost
> and allow us to offer more flexible service levels for different
> membership levels. We may even have a no-cost option in exchange for
> some volunteer labor. Once we know our operating costs and have some
> estimates of our projected membership counts going forward we will
> offer more membership levels and listings service levels.
>
> As far as the listings data is concerned it will initially be very
> much like the labs service. Schedules Direct will be able to get
> corrections made and there may some limited additional data over the
> labs service, and Chris Petersen is working on flexibility in creating
> lineups, but otherwise it is the same data. We will continually work
> on improving the quality and the flexibility in using the data in
> non-commercial Open Source and "freeware" applications by our members.
>
> -- Daniel
>
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trgreer at gmail

Aug 8, 2007, 5:45 PM

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Re: Schedules Direct: some more actual info [In reply to]

On 8/8/07, Jay R. Ashworth <jra[at]baylink.com> wrote:
>
> Unburying this one too, for people who killfiled the long thread;
> thanks Daniel.


Thank you, Jay, for bringing these to light.

The other thread was so painful to go through... It seemed there were 10
negative comments to every positive one, even though the reality was that
the handful of people that were posting negatives were firing replies like
rabbits in heat.

So I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank all of the people who
have worked hard to make schedulesdirect.org a reality. Just a short time
ago, we were all in a tizzy over what to do. These people worked their
butts off to develop a solution.

I don't want them to think, based on the negative response of a vocal few,
that their work is going unappreciated.

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

Tom


nobleiceman at gmail

Aug 8, 2007, 5:56 PM

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Re: Schedules Direct: some more actual info [In reply to]

I second (or third or whatever) this Thank You!

Jarett

On 8/8/07, Tom Greer <trgreer[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 8/8/07, Jay R. Ashworth <jra[at]baylink.com> wrote:
> >
> > Unburying this one too, for people who killfiled the long thread;
> > thanks Daniel.
>
>
> Thank you, Jay, for bringing these to light.
>
> The other thread was so painful to go through... It seemed there were 10
> negative comments to every positive one, even though the reality was that
> the handful of people that were posting negatives were firing replies like
> rabbits in heat.
>
> So I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank all of the people who
> have worked hard to make schedulesdirect.org a reality. Just a short time
> ago, we were all in a tizzy over what to do. These people worked their
> butts off to develop a solution.
>
> I don't want them to think, based on the negative response of a vocal few,
> that their work is going unappreciated.
>
> Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
>
> Tom
>
>
>
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mark_oliver at java2000

Aug 8, 2007, 6:09 PM

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Re: Schedules Direct: some more actual info [In reply to]

Jarett Creason wrote:
> I second (or third or whatever) this Thank You!
>
> Jarett
>
> On 8/8/07, *Tom Greer* <trgreer[at]gmail.com <mailto:trgreer[at]gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> On 8/8/07, *Jay R. Ashworth* < jra[at]baylink.com
> <mailto:jra[at]baylink.com>> wrote:
>
> Unburying this one too, for people who killfiled the long thread;
> thanks Daniel.
>
>
> Thank you, Jay, for bringing these to light.
>
> The other thread was so painful to go through... It seemed there
> were 10 negative comments to every positive one, even though the
> reality was that the handful of people that were posting negatives
> were firing replies like rabbits in heat.
>
> So I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank all of the
> people who have worked hard to make schedulesdirect.org
> <http://schedulesdirect.org> a reality. Just a short time ago, we
> were all in a tizzy over what to do. These people worked their
> butts off to develop a solution.
>
> I don't want them to think, based on the negative response of a
> vocal few, that their work is going unappreciated.
>
> Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
>
> Tom
>
Yes, the sad part of having gone through the other thread is that I took
too long to get around to something that is far more important: thanking
those who have made schedulesdirect possible. Many, many thanks and
definitely count me in!

mark

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