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robbinsc at gmail

Jul 7, 2007, 4:22 PM

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Problems with PVR-500 - Massive instability?

Title says it all...I just got my hands on a PVR-500, pu`t it into my box
and
I've had problems with it ever since...

A bit of background - the box is running SuSE 10.2, with the latest version
of ivtv (0.10.3) and the latest firmware along with the most recent MythTV
(from
RPMs). It's an Athlon64 with a gig of RAM. I could understand if it was
only
MythTV that went down, but when I try to use the card, the ENTIRE SYSTEM
locks up, and I need a restart to save it.

The PVR-500 I have uses the Philips tuner, so it's not a problem with the
tuner. (or at
least, the type of tuner in use). I thought the problem may stem from too
much
dust in the system, but I've cleaned it out and everything's running okay
there. Originally,
I had a PVR-350 alongside the 500, but I pulled it out for debugging the
problem. The
PVR-350 works fine, with no problems. I've tried changing slots as well, to
no avail.
ivtv startup is posted below.

Any ideas? I realize this isn't specifically a Myth problem, but I was
hoping someone could
point me in the right direction (and yes, I am sending this out to
ivtv-users as well).

Thanks!

- Chris

# dmesg | grep ivtv

ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
ivtv: version 0.10.3 (tagged release) loading
ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.18.8-0.3-default SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.1
ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between
ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (376836 bytes)
ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02060039
i2c-algo-bit.o: ivtv i2c driver #0 passed test.
ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1)
tuner 1-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
tuner 1-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
cx25840 1-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
wm8775 1-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
ivtv0: Registered device video0 for encoder MPEG (4 MB)
ivtv0: Registered device video32 for encoder YUV (2 MB)
ivtv0: Registered device vbi0 for encoder VBI (1 MB)
ivtv0: Registered device video24 for encoder PCM audio (1 MB)
ivtv0: Registered device radio0 for encoder radio
ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1), card #0
ivtv: ====================== NEXT CARD ======================
ivtv1: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
ivtv1: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
ivtv1: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (376836 bytes)
ivtv1: Encoder revision: 0x02060039
i2c-algo-bit.o: ivtv i2c driver #1 passed test.
tuner 2-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
tuner 2-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
cx25840 2-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
wm8775 2-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
ivtv1: Correcting tveeprom data: no radio present on second unit
ivtv1: Autodetected WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2)
ivtv1: Registered device video1 for encoder MPEG (4 MB)
ivtv1: Registered device video33 for encoder YUV (2 MB)
ivtv1: Registered device vbi1 for encoder VBI (1 MB)
ivtv1: Registered device video25 for encoder PCM audio (1 MB)
ivtv1: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2), card #1
ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================

--
Chris Robbins
Systems Programmer
Department of English - University of Arizona
http://www.homerengineeringcorp.net

myth at dermanouelian

Jul 7, 2007, 4:39 PM

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Re: Problems with PVR-500 - Massive instability? [In reply to]

On Jul 7, 2007, at 4:22 PM, Christopher Robbins wrote:

> Title says it all...I just got my hands on a PVR-500, pu`t it into
> my box and
> I've had problems with it ever since...
>
> A bit of background - the box is running SuSE 10.2, with the latest
> version
> of ivtv (0.10.3 ) and the latest firmware along with the most
> recent MythTV (from
> RPMs). It's an Athlon64 with a gig of RAM. I could understand if
> it was only
> MythTV that went down, but when I try to use the card, the ENTIRE
> SYSTEM
> locks up, and I need a restart to save it.
>
> The PVR-500 I have uses the Philips tuner, so it's not a problem
> with the tuner. (or at
> least, the type of tuner in use). I thought the problem may stem
> from too much
> dust in the system, but I've cleaned it out and everything's
> running okay there. Originally,
> I had a PVR-350 alongside the 500, but I pulled it out for
> debugging the problem. The
> PVR-350 works fine, with no problems. I've tried changing slots as
> well, to no avail.
> ivtv startup is posted below.
>
> Any ideas? I realize this isn't specifically a Myth problem, but I
> was hoping someone could
> point me in the right direction (and yes, I am sending this out to
> ivtv-users as well).
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Chris

Maybe your power supply isn't enough to drive the dual-tuner card?
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robbinsc at gmail

Jul 7, 2007, 4:52 PM

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Re: Problems with PVR-500 - Massive instability? [In reply to]

According to the Power Supply Calculator here -

http://www.journeysystems.com/?powercalc

I only need around 263 watts (this assumes about 5 watts/card). I've got
a 450 watt power supply, so even if the card used 50 watts/card, I still
should be
in good shape.

I read somewhere about VIA chipsets and the PVR-500...Maybe this is part of
the problem?

On 7/7/07, Brad DerManouelian <myth [at] dermanouelian> wrote:
>
> On Jul 7, 2007, at 4:22 PM, Christopher Robbins wrote:
>
> > Title says it all...I just got my hands on a PVR-500, pu`t it into
> > my box and
> > I've had problems with it ever since...
> >
> > A bit of background - the box is running SuSE 10.2, with the latest
> > version
> > of ivtv (0.10.3 ) and the latest firmware along with the most
> > recent MythTV (from
> > RPMs). It's an Athlon64 with a gig of RAM. I could understand if
> > it was only
> > MythTV that went down, but when I try to use the card, the ENTIRE
> > SYSTEM
> > locks up, and I need a restart to save it.
> >
> > The PVR-500 I have uses the Philips tuner, so it's not a problem
> > with the tuner. (or at
> > least, the type of tuner in use). I thought the problem may stem
> > from too much
> > dust in the system, but I've cleaned it out and everything's
> > running okay there. Originally,
> > I had a PVR-350 alongside the 500, but I pulled it out for
> > debugging the problem. The
> > PVR-350 works fine, with no problems. I've tried changing slots as
> > well, to no avail.
> > ivtv startup is posted below.
> >
> > Any ideas? I realize this isn't specifically a Myth problem, but I
> > was hoping someone could
> > point me in the right direction (and yes, I am sending this out to
> > ivtv-users as well).
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > - Chris
>
> Maybe your power supply isn't enough to drive the dual-tuner card?
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--
Chris Robbins
Systems Programmer
Department of English - University of Arizona
http://www.homerengineeringcorp.net

beww at beww

Jul 7, 2007, 5:55 PM

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Re: Problems with PVR-500 - Massive instability? [In reply to]

Christopher Robbins wrote:
> According to the Power Supply Calculator here -
>
> http://www.journeysystems.com/?powercalc
>
> I only need around 263 watts (this assumes about 5 watts/card). I've got
> a 450 watt power supply, so even if the card used 50 watts/card, I still
> should be
> in good shape.

Pay careful attention to the second paragraph of that link. It makes
some good points.

I love it when I see ad for something like "600 watt power supply: $12.95".

You get what you pay for, and a PSU is one of the first things that
system builders will skimp on.

>
> I read somewhere about VIA chipsets and the PVR-500...Maybe this is part of
> the problem?

Possible, not as likely as a PS problem, IMHO. There were some problems
that resulted in system lockups, but I think they were primarily with
much older chipsets.

BEWW
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billymacdonald at gmail

Jul 7, 2007, 10:23 PM

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Re: Problems with PVR-500 - Massive instability? [In reply to]

On 7/7/07, Christopher Robbins <robbinsc [at] gmail> wrote:
> Title says it all...I just got my hands on a PVR-500, pu`t it into my box
> and
> I've had problems with it ever since...
>
> A bit of background - the box is running SuSE 10.2, with the latest version
> of ivtv (0.10.3 ) and the latest firmware along with the most recent MythTV
> (from
> RPMs). It's an Athlon64 with a gig of RAM. I could understand if it was
> only
> MythTV that went down, but when I try to use the card, the ENTIRE SYSTEM
> locks up, and I need a restart to save it.
>
> The PVR-500 I have uses the Philips tuner, so it's not a problem with the
> tuner. (or at
> least, the type of tuner in use). I thought the problem may stem from too
> much
> dust in the system, but I've cleaned it out and everything's running okay
> there. Originally,
> I had a PVR-350 alongside the 500, but I pulled it out for debugging the
> problem. The
> PVR-350 works fine, with no problems. I've tried changing slots as well, to
> no avail.
> ivtv startup is posted below.
>
> Any ideas? I realize this isn't specifically a Myth problem, but I was
> hoping someone could
> point me in the right direction (and yes, I am sending this out to
> ivtv-users as well).
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Chris
>
> # dmesg | grep ivtv
>
> ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
> ivtv: version 0.10.3 (tagged release) loading
> ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.18.8-0.3-default
> SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.1
> ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between
> ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
> ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
>
> ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
> ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
> ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (376836 bytes)
> ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02060039
>
> i2c-algo-bit.o: ivtv i2c driver #0 passed test.
> ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1)
> tuner 1-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
> tuner 1-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
> tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
>
> cx25840 1-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
> wm8775 1-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
> ivtv0: Registered device video0 for encoder MPEG (4 MB)
> ivtv0: Registered device video32 for encoder YUV (2 MB)
>
> ivtv0: Registered device vbi0 for encoder VBI (1 MB)
> ivtv0: Registered device video24 for encoder PCM audio (1 MB)
> ivtv0: Registered device radio0 for encoder radio
> ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1), card #0
>
> ivtv: ====================== NEXT CARD ======================
> ivtv1: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
> ivtv1: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
> ivtv1: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
> firmware (376836 bytes)
> ivtv1: Encoder revision: 0x02060039
> i2c-algo-bit.o: ivtv i2c driver #1 passed test.
> tuner 2-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
> tuner 2-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
>
> cx25840 2-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
> wm8775 2-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
> ivtv1: Correcting tveeprom data: no radio present on second unit
> ivtv1: Autodetected WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2)
>
> ivtv1: Registered device video1 for encoder MPEG (4 MB)
> ivtv1: Registered device video33 for encoder YUV (2 MB)
> ivtv1: Registered device vbi1 for encoder VBI (1 MB)
> ivtv1: Registered device video25 for encoder PCM audio (1 MB)
>
> ivtv1: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2), card #1
> ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================
>
>

I'm curious as to how you "got your hands on it". Do you know if it
is a known good card?

If there is any option to swap it with another 500 that may be a good
route to take since your system is stable with the 350.

Billy
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jlambert at eml

Jul 11, 2007, 8:51 AM

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Re: Problems with PVR-500 - Massive instability? [In reply to]

I have a problem with my PVR-500 and it being incompatible with my abit
motherboard. Hauppauge and abit are blaming each other and neither one
has released firmware that fixes the problem yet.

jl

Brian Wood wrote:
> Christopher Robbins wrote:
>
>> According to the Power Supply Calculator here -
>>
>> http://www.journeysystems.com/?powercalc
>>
>> I only need around 263 watts (this assumes about 5 watts/card). I've got
>> a 450 watt power supply, so even if the card used 50 watts/card, I still
>> should be
>> in good shape.
>>
>
> Pay careful attention to the second paragraph of that link. It makes
> some good points.
>
> I love it when I see ad for something like "600 watt power supply: $12.95".
>
> You get what you pay for, and a PSU is one of the first things that
> system builders will skimp on.
>
>
>> I read somewhere about VIA chipsets and the PVR-500...Maybe this is part of
>> the problem?
>>
>
> Possible, not as likely as a PS problem, IMHO. There were some problems
> that resulted in system lockups, but I think they were primarily with
> much older chipsets.
>
> BEWW
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>
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