Dean at cognation
Jun 20, 2007, 1:32 PM
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Regards,
Dean Collins
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces[at]mythtv.org [mailto:mythtv-users-
> bounces[at]mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Robert Eden
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2007 3:58 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: [mythtv-users] XMLTV says hi...
>
> My name is Robert Eden and I wrote the DD grabber for XMLTV.
>
> Of course XMLTV is in the same boat. I would love to help Daniel and
> Issac with this as it's not a MythTV issue, it effects many
U.S./Canada
> open source projects (not just PVRs).
>
> A scraper would work for my needs, but you PVR folks would lose lots
of
> important info (episode number, cast, synopsis, etc). When scrapers
> were used, the Open Source PVR community was *much* smaller and the
> demands on Zap2IT.com from scraping were so bad they kicked off the
Data
> Direct project. At the size of the customer base now, I'm sure there
> would be a major cat and mouse game to keep a scraper working.
>
> At the 12k/mo number previously posted for U.S. listings (which is in
> line with old discussions I've had with Zap2IT) would require 7200
folks
> paying $20/year to just pay for the listings. That doesn't take into
> account, servers, bandwidth, legal (yes, lots of legal issues), and of
> course personnel. While there *may* be a solution, it's not a simple
> one and getting something up by 9/1 will be a challenge.
>
> There are only two providers of TV listing in the U.S. Tribune and TV
> Guide. As you've seen, they charge a pretty penny for the data. I can
> see their concern about commercial entities using the DD service
instead
> of paying them for listings. If a new service is created, there will
> have to be ways to prevent commercial entities from accessing the
> data. I can see a charge of like $20/year/lineup, with tracking by
IP
> address to prevent excessive accesses. Of course that won't prevent
the
> "bad guys" from grabbing the data and redistributing it via their own
> servers, but that's a copyright issue w/o a simple solution.
Hopefully
> by restricting the number of lineups per CC or paypal account will
> cause too much trouble for them to redistribute data. Without an
> "illegal redistribution" solution, I can see a problem even getting
> redistribution rights.
>
> Daniel and Isaac, please bring me in to help come up with a solution.
> (out of band I imagine).
>
> Robert
>
>
>
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