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matt at ssc

May 23, 2003, 7:15 PM

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Sound issues

I just started trying to mythTV to work and I have it somewhat installed on a
standard RH8 system. I used the RPMS and got it install and the tv listings all
done and there is one major issue I am fighting. I can't seem to get audio
recording/output to work. I have an older BTTV card which works with xawtv. It
is hooked up to my sound card through my CD port. When I watch live TV I get no
sound as is true when I watch something I recorded which is expected. Now, the
troubleshooing stuff says that you should be able to test it with aplay. I get

{server 7} xawtv &
[1] 5077
{server 9} aplay /dev/dsp
aplay: main:480: audio open error: No such file or directory
and the same is true for any other device I can think of. I am at a loss where
to go or even look from here. Any help would be great.

Thanks
Matt

00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
00:0e.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture
(rev 02)
00:0e.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 02)

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jcaputo1 at comcast

May 27, 2003, 7:05 AM

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RE: Sound issues [In reply to]

Sounds like you don't have ALSA installed properly. Did you run the
'snddevices' script when you installed ALSA? Do you have sound from any
other applications (XMMS, etc)? Sound from Xawtv doesn't count, as that's a
direct sound card pass-thru, and doesn't (AFAIK) use the sound card driver.
(I assume you're using the 'tuner card line-out to sound card line-in'
setup. Have you tried to see if btaudio works on your card? Your lspci
output seems to indicate you could, as it shows a detected Brooktree Audio
Capture device) If you got btaudio working, then you would at least be able
to record sound. Playback of sound would still be dependent on having a
correctly functioning audio driver setup, though since you wouldn't be using
full duplex you could probably get away with the OSS sound drivers & use the
RedHat sound configuration program to set them up.

-JAC

> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> I just started trying to mythTV to work and I have it somewhat
> installed on a
> standard RH8 system. I used the RPMS and got it install and the
> tv listings all
> done and there is one major issue I am fighting. I can't seem to
> get audio
> recording/output to work. I have an older BTTV card which works
> with xawtv. It
> is hooked up to my sound card through my CD port. When I watch
> live TV I get no
> sound as is true when I watch something I recorded which is
> expected. Now, the
> troubleshooing stuff says that you should be able to test it with
> aplay. I get
>
> {server 7} xawtv &
> [1] 5077
> {server 9} aplay /dev/dsp
> aplay: main:480: audio open error: No such file or directory
> and the same is true for any other device I can think of. I am
> at a loss where
> to go or even look from here. Any help would be great.
>
> Thanks
> Matt
>
>
> 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc
> CM8738 (rev 10)
> 00:0e.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878
> Video Capture
> (rev 02)
> 00:0e.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio
> Capture (rev 02)
>
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brumple at VALUBOND

Apr 26, 2004, 11:08 AM

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RE: Sound Issues [In reply to]

Have you tried test_ioctl to check if the volume is muted? test_ioctl
is a ivtv utility. I have read other posts that had this issue.

Do

test_ioctl -all

And look at the bottom. My outputs like:

Volume = 59343
Mute = 0

You can set the value with:

test_ioctl --set-ctrl=volume=59343
test_ioctl --set-ctrl=mute=0

-----Original Message-----
From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv
[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Tom Elsesser
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 1:18 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Sound Issues

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:09:56 -0400, Tom Elsesser
<telsesser [at] mindspring> wrote:

>Hi all. I am having issues getting sound from the pvr-250.

Hi again. Replying to my own post, that's how frustrated/desperate I am.
I spent more hours than the missus cared for this weekend trying to
resolve this but am coming up empty handed. I tried rolling my own
kernel to 2.4.26, patching with the kraxel patch, but that did not give
me sound. I waxed my whole FC1 installation and put Knoppmyth on, and
THAT is not supplying sound. A friendly poster sent me a short mpeg to
test, and that came thru with sound, so it appears the sound drivers are
working as expected. It's just captured video that has no audio.

Does anyone have any tests/steps/faq's I can try?

TIA.

Tom
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Apr 28, 2004, 6:57 AM

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Re: Sound Issues [In reply to]

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:08:22 -0400, "Brian Rumple"
<brumple [at] VALUBOND> wrote:

>Do
>
>test_ioctl -all
>
>And look at the bottom. My outputs like:
>
>Volume = 59343
>Mute = 0

Yep, I get the same results. I am fairly certain it's the i810
onboard. Even if it's not, it's an excuse to buy a new mobo. Ha!

Thanks for the help.

Tom
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mike at easychair

Jun 4, 2004, 7:56 PM

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Re: Sound Issues [In reply to]

Derek,
I purchased this card from http://www.new-egg.com when I built the box
last year. I couldn't remember if it was OEM or not-- I thought it may
have been! I went out to Best Buy tonight and picked up a new SBLive!
card. It had the same part number when I got it home, and after
switching the card, letting Kudzu detect it, rerunning alsaconf, I have
the same problem.

Basically, I set the card up in alsamixer, restart MythTV, go to live TV
and I get the double audio. When I revisit alsamixer, the AUX channel is
still showing MM and even if I toggle it on and off, the sound still
persists.

So, I'm convinced that the SBLive! card I have is a retail version of it
. So it is some problem with ALSA. But, xawtv does not cause this
problem-- only MythTV.

Mike

> Hi Micheal,
>
> Is your SBLive card an OEM version? (And did you have it with your old
> setup?) I ask because I had similar problems and after
> cross-referencing the model # on the card with a matrix on the Creative
> site I found the my SBLive card in my Dell was a piece of junk OEM
> version and that ALSA doesn't have drivers for. I've heard that certain
> Dell and Gateway computers (and maybe others) have this type of card. I
> finally just removed ALSA and move back to OSS.
>
> Just a thought.
> Derek

mythtv at deanandadie

Nov 21, 2004, 10:12 AM

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Re: Sound Issues [In reply to]

> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:23:26 +0100
> From: Ryszard <ryszard99 [at] gmail>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Sound Issues
> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
> Message-ID: <9d6bc23604112101233fa5add9 [at] mail>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> if you dont have your sound modules loaded, then doing a cat on
> /dev/dsp will show you the device doesnt exist. do an lsmod to have a
> look. you could also do a chmod 777 on /dev/dsp* to _ensure_ you have
> enuff permission for any user to do what they need.

Hello all,

Thanks for the replies.

lsmod shows my sound modules loaded (at least I think that's all of them). And
if I run aplay /dev/dsp as root, I still get a "no such device" error, so
permissions are not the issue. Check out my modules and see if I'm missing
something.

Again, I'm running debian-unstable with kernel 2.6.9.

My mythtv user is in the audio and video group.

0 mythical /dev # id mythtv
uid=106(mythtv) gid=106(mythtv) groups=106(mythtv),29(audio),44(video)

0 mythical /dev # id
uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)

0 mythical /dev # aplay /dev/dsp
/dev/dsp: No such device

1 mythical /dev # ll /dev/dsp*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Nov 20 22:48 /dev/dsp -> dsp0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Nov 20 22:47 /dev/dsp0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 19 Nov 20 22:47 /dev/dsp1
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 35 Nov 20 22:47 /dev/dsp2
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 51 Nov 20 22:47 /dev/dsp3

0 mythical /dev # lsmod
Module Size Used by
snd_mixer_oss 17344 0
tuner 19364 0
tvaudio 20768 0
bttv 136332 1
video_buf 16964 1 bttv
i2c_algo_bit 8840 1 bttv
v4l2_common 4864 1 bttv
btcx_risc 3784 1 bttv
i2c_core 18768 4 tuner,tvaudio,bttv,i2c_algo_bit
videodev 7040 2 bttv
tulip 36832 0
snd_bt87x 8968 0
agpgart 28072 0
snd_cs46xx 74152 0
snd_rawmidi 18916 1 snd_cs46xx
snd_pcm 78280 2 snd_bt87x,snd_cs46xx
snd_timer 20036 1 snd_pcm
snd_ac97_codec 67216 1 snd_cs46xx
snd 42404 7
snd_mixer_oss,snd_bt87x,snd_cs46xx,snd_rawmidi,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_ac97_codec
soundcore 6880 2 bttv,snd
snd_page_alloc 7560 3 snd_bt87x,snd_cs46xx,snd_pcm
af_packet 12680 0

Backend log messages:
2004-11-21 10:00:10 Could not open audio device: /dev/dsp
2004-11-21 10:00:10 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
Cannot open DSP '/dev/dsp', dying.
open: No such device
Could not detect audio blocksize
Cannot open DSP '/dev/dsp', exitingopen: No such device
2004-11-21 10:00:14 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None

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dlbrett at zoominternet

Nov 21, 2004, 1:07 PM

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Re: Sound Issues [In reply to]

The audio devices look correct. Did you consider setting those to 777
to ensure that it's not permissions?

chmod 777 /dev/dsp*

, test it, then change it back to 660 with,

chmod 660 /dev/dsp*

Don

lifter89 at comcast

Aug 18, 2007, 9:23 PM

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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

I'll double check that, but even if I don't, I don't think that that would have anything to do with the inability to hear other sounds (like MP3s, etc.). Right?

Harry

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Scott Simpson <Scott.Simpson [at] computer>

> Do you have a cable connected from you CDROM player to you soundcard?
> Normally there are *three* cables connected to your CDROM:
>
> 1. Power
> 2. IDE cable
> 3. 4 or 5 pin connector (don't remember which) that goes from the CDROM
> to the sound card.
>
> The cable connecting to the CDROM is polarity sensitive (that is, you
> must insert it the right way or you won't hear anything).
> Scott
>
> Harry Devine wrote:
> > OK, I have what I think is a really strange problem. If I go to my "Soundcard
> Detection" or "Sound" items in Preferences and Adminstration (respectively) and
> click on the Test button, I can hear sound. However, if I try to use a player
> to listen to music that was ripped down, or even play a CD, I get no sound at
> all. I am currently running MythDora 4.0, so my OS is FC6.
> >
> > Where should I begin looking to get this to work? It is really frustrating me
> since the Test sounds play nice.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Harry
> >
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> >
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newbury at mandamus

Aug 18, 2007, 10:45 PM

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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

Harry Devine wrote:
> OK, I have what I think is a really strange problem. If I go to my "Soundcard Detection" or "Sound" items in Preferences and Adminstration (respectively) and click on the Test button, I can hear sound. However, if I try to use a player to listen to music that was ripped down, or even play a CD, I get no sound at all. I am currently running MythDora 4.0, so my OS is FC6.
>
> Where should I begin looking to get this to work? It is really frustrating me since the Test sounds play nice.
>

Open 2 consoles. In one, run system-config-soundcard. Set it to 'repeat'
and start the test sound. In the other run 'kmix'Raise all of the
volumes, and unmute all of the inputs/outputs one by one, until you find
the one which actually controls the output.

System-config-soundcard appears to set the volume high *only while
running the test* and then re-sets it off....Damn annoying.

My Via SP13000 board has 5 "VRSD" inputs, and it was the second one of
those which actually controlled the volume....And no, I have no idea.....

Geoff

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lifter89 at comcast

Aug 19, 2007, 7:20 AM

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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

I don't have kmix (I'm running Gnome by default). Is there a Gnome equivalent? I can run alsamixer and all of the inputs seem to be unmuted in there.

Thanks,
Harry

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "R. G. Newbury" <newbury [at] mandamus>

> Harry Devine wrote:
> > OK, I have what I think is a really strange problem. If I go to my "Soundcard
> Detection" or "Sound" items in Preferences and Adminstration (respectively) and
> click on the Test button, I can hear sound. However, if I try to use a player
> to listen to music that was ripped down, or even play a CD, I get no sound at
> all. I am currently running MythDora 4.0, so my OS is FC6.
> >
> > Where should I begin looking to get this to work? It is really frustrating me
> since the Test sounds play nice.
> >
>
> Open 2 consoles. In one, run system-config-soundcard. Set it to 'repeat'
> and start the test sound. In the other run 'kmix'Raise all of the
> volumes, and unmute all of the inputs/outputs one by one, until you find
> the one which actually controls the output.
>
> System-config-soundcard appears to set the volume high *only while
> running the test* and then re-sets it off....Damn annoying.
>
> My Via SP13000 board has 5 "VRSD" inputs, and it was the second one of
> those which actually controlled the volume....And no, I have no idea.....
>
> Geoff
>
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nobleiceman at gmail

Aug 19, 2007, 10:00 AM

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On 8/19/07, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast> wrote:
>
> I don't have kmix (I'm running Gnome by default). Is there a Gnome
> equivalent? I can run alsamixer and all of the inputs seem to be unmuted in
> there.
>
> Thanks,
> Harry
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "R. G. Newbury" <newbury [at] mandamus>
>
> > Harry Devine wrote:
> > > OK, I have what I think is a really strange problem. If I go to my
> "Soundcard
> > Detection" or "Sound" items in Preferences and Adminstration
> (respectively) and
> > click on the Test button, I can hear sound. However, if I try to use a
> player
> > to listen to music that was ripped down, or even play a CD, I get no
> sound at
> > all. I am currently running MythDora 4.0, so my OS is FC6.
> > >
> > > Where should I begin looking to get this to work? It is really
> frustrating me
> > since the Test sounds play nice.
> > >
> >
> > Open 2 consoles. In one, run system-config-soundcard. Set it to 'repeat'
>
> > and start the test sound. In the other run 'kmix'Raise all of the
> > volumes, and unmute all of the inputs/outputs one by one, until you find
>
> > the one which actually controls the output.
> >
> > System-config-soundcard appears to set the volume high *only while
> > running the test* and then re-sets it off....Damn annoying.
> >
> > My Via SP13000 board has 5 "VRSD" inputs, and it was the second one of
> > those which actually controlled the volume....And no, I have no
> idea.....
> >
> > Geoff
> >
>
>
Can you hear anything when trying to play those mp3's with mplayer or xine?
If it is just related to MythTV, you might try messing with the sound
properites in the setup (Utilties/Setup -> Setup -> General -> 3rd Screen).
I had a similar problem and needed to set the audio output device to
"ALSA:default" (it wasn't a given option, I had to type it in). On a
different machine, I had to unmute one of the channels with alsamixer then
kept trying to play sound and I eventually found the culprit, but that was a
system wide sound outage...

Jarett

lifter89 at comcast

Aug 19, 2007, 10:23 AM

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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

Nope, I can't hear anything at all in both MythTV and just booted into the OS. I've tried downloading and compiling different GNOME mixers, like gamix, but can't get it to compile. It complains about GTK+ not being the correct version.

I have opened up the GNOME Volume Control applet and turned on the view of every device (Capture, CD, etc.), and they all seem to be turned on (i.e. not muted), so I'm really stumped as to what's happening here.

Thanks,
Harry

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Jarett Creason" <nobleiceman [at] gmail>
> On 8/19/07, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast> wrote:
> >
> > I don't have kmix (I'm running Gnome by default). Is there a Gnome
> > equivalent? I can run alsamixer and all of the inputs seem to be unmuted in
> > there.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Harry
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "R. G. Newbury" <newbury [at] mandamus>
> >
> > > Harry Devine wrote:
> > > > OK, I have what I think is a really strange problem. If I go to my
> > "Soundcard
> > > Detection" or "Sound" items in Preferences and Adminstration
> > (respectively) and
> > > click on the Test button, I can hear sound. However, if I try to use a
> > player
> > > to listen to music that was ripped down, or even play a CD, I get no
> > sound at
> > > all. I am currently running MythDora 4.0, so my OS is FC6.
> > > >
> > > > Where should I begin looking to get this to work? It is really
> > frustrating me
> > > since the Test sounds play nice.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Open 2 consoles. In one, run system-config-soundcard. Set it to 'repeat'
> >
> > > and start the test sound. In the other run 'kmix'Raise all of the
> > > volumes, and unmute all of the inputs/outputs one by one, until you find
> >
> > > the one which actually controls the output.
> > >
> > > System-config-soundcard appears to set the volume high *only while
> > > running the test* and then re-sets it off....Damn annoying.
> > >
> > > My Via SP13000 board has 5 "VRSD" inputs, and it was the second one of
> > > those which actually controlled the volume....And no, I have no
> > idea.....
> > >
> > > Geoff
> > >
> >
> >
> Can you hear anything when trying to play those mp3's with mplayer or xine?
> If it is just related to MythTV, you might try messing with the sound
> properites in the setup (Utilties/Setup -> Setup -> General -> 3rd Screen).
> I had a similar problem and needed to set the audio output device to
> "ALSA:default" (it wasn't a given option, I had to type it in). On a
> different machine, I had to unmute one of the channels with alsamixer then
> kept trying to play sound and I eventually found the culprit, but that was a
> system wide sound outage...
>
> Jarett

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newbury at mandamus

Aug 20, 2007, 8:39 AM

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Harry Devine wrote:
> I don't have kmix (I'm running Gnome by default). Is there a Gnome equivalent? I can run alsamixer and all of the inputs seem to be unmuted in there.
>
> Thanks,
> Harry

gmix or gmixer I think.

Geoff

>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "R. G. Newbury" <newbury [at] mandamus>
>
>> Harry Devine wrote:
>>> OK, I have what I think is a really strange problem. If I go to my "Soundcard
>> Detection" or "Sound" items in Preferences and Adminstration (respectively) and
>> click on the Test button, I can hear sound. However, if I try to use a player
>> to listen to music that was ripped down, or even play a CD, I get no sound at
>> all. I am currently running MythDora 4.0, so my OS is FC6.
>>> Where should I begin looking to get this to work? It is really frustrating me
>> since the Test sounds play nice.
>> Open 2 consoles. In one, run system-config-soundcard. Set it to 'repeat'
>> and start the test sound. In the other run 'kmix'Raise all of the
>> volumes, and unmute all of the inputs/outputs one by one, until you find
>> the one which actually controls the output.
>>
>> System-config-soundcard appears to set the volume high *only while
>> running the test* and then re-sets it off....Damn annoying.
>>
>> My Via SP13000 board has 5 "VRSD" inputs, and it was the second one of
>> those which actually controlled the volume....And no, I have no idea.....
>>
>> Geoff

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lifter89 at comcast

Aug 20, 2007, 5:32 PM

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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

I don't have gmix or gmixer, but I have been able to run the gnome-soundcard-volume applet (if I right click on the speaker in the top right of the FC6 window. I have set all of the options to be visible in the Preferences dialog, and my nVidia CK804 has the following settings:

Playback tab:
Master On (for both channels)
Master Mono On
PCM On (for both channels)
Surround Off (for both channels)
Center Off
LFE Off
Line In On (for both channels)
CD On (for both channels)
MIC Off
Phone Off
IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA On
PC Speaker Off
Aux Off
Capture Tab:
On (for both Volume AND Mic)
Switches tab:
The following are checked on:
Line In Capture, CD Capture, Video, IEC958, IEC958 Capture, Mix, Mix Mono, Duplicate Frontend, and External Amplifier
The following are checked off:
Mic Capture, Mic Boost, Mix Front Input, Phone Capture, Aux Capture
Options tab:
Surround Jack: Shared
Mic Select: Mic1
IEC958 Playback Source: PCM
Mono Output Select: Mix
Channel Mode: 2ch

I know this seems like alot, and I can get screen captures if anyone thinks it'll help. I've been able to get test recordings going, DVDs being ripped down, and CDs being ripped down, but all of these don't mean scratch if I can't hear anything.

Thanks again for any and all help.
Harry

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "R. G. Newbury" <newbury [at] mandamus>

> Harry Devine wrote:
> > I don't have kmix (I'm running Gnome by default). Is there a Gnome
> equivalent? I can run alsamixer and all of the inputs seem to be unmuted in
> there.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Harry
>
>
> gmix or gmixer I think.
>
> Geoff
>
>
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "R. G. Newbury"
> >
> >> Harry Devine wrote:
> >>> OK, I have what I think is a really strange problem. If I go to my
> "Soundcard
> >> Detection" or "Sound" items in Preferences and Adminstration (respectively)
> and
> >> click on the Test button, I can hear sound. However, if I try to use a player
> >> to listen to music that was ripped down, or even play a CD, I get no sound at
> >> all. I am currently running MythDora 4.0, so my OS is FC6.
> >>> Where should I begin looking to get this to work? It is really frustrating
> me
> >> since the Test sounds play nice.
> >> Open 2 consoles. In one, run system-config-soundcard. Set it to 'repeat'
> >> and start the test sound. In the other run 'kmix'Raise all of the
> >> volumes, and unmute all of the inputs/outputs one by one, until you find
> >> the one which actually controls the output.
> >>
> >> System-config-soundcard appears to set the volume high *only while
> >> running the test* and then re-sets it off....Damn annoying.
> >>
> >> My Via SP13000 board has 5 "VRSD" inputs, and it was the second one of
> >> those which actually controlled the volume....And no, I have no idea.....
> >>
> >> Geoff
>
>
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nobleiceman at gmail

Aug 20, 2007, 10:30 PM

Post #15 of 24 (2024 views)
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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

On 8/20/07, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast> wrote:
>
> I don't have gmix or gmixer, but I have been able to run the
> gnome-soundcard-volume applet (if I right click on the speaker in the top
> right of the FC6 window. I have set all of the options to be visible in the
> Preferences dialog, and my nVidia CK804 has the following settings:
>
> Playback tab:
> Master On (for both channels)
> Master Mono On
> PCM On (for both channels)
> Surround Off (for both channels)
> Center Off
> LFE Off
> Line In On (for both channels)
> CD On (for both channels)
> MIC Off
> Phone Off
> IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA On
> PC Speaker Off
> Aux Off
> Capture Tab:
> On (for both Volume AND Mic)
> Switches tab:
> The following are checked on:
> Line In Capture, CD Capture, Video, IEC958, IEC958 Capture, Mix,
> Mix Mono, Duplicate Frontend, and External Amplifier
> The following are checked off:
> Mic Capture, Mic Boost, Mix Front Input, Phone Capture, Aux
> Capture
> Options tab:
> Surround Jack: Shared
> Mic Select: Mic1
> IEC958 Playback Source: PCM
> Mono Output Select: Mix
> Channel Mode: 2ch
>
> I know this seems like alot, and I can get screen captures if anyone
> thinks it'll help. I've been able to get test recordings going, DVDs being
> ripped down, and CDs being ripped down, but all of these don't mean scratch
> if I can't hear anything.
>
> Thanks again for any and all help.
> Harry
>

I don't know how much help this may be (probably none), but you said you
have alsamixer? You tried playing music in one console (mplayer
someMusic.ogg) and then unmuting, muting and turning volume up and down on
the different options in a different console?

Jarett

lifter89 at comcast

Aug 21, 2007, 7:02 AM

Post #16 of 24 (2003 views)
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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

I just tried that (one window had mplayer going on an ogg file; the other with alsamixer), and I got nothing. Everything was on (if I hit M, the icon underneath would change from 2 Os to 2 Ms), and muting/unmuting and changing the volume up or down had no effect. Couldn't hear anything at all.

Harry

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Jarett Creason" <nobleiceman [at] gmail>
On 8/20/07, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast> wrote:
I don't have gmix or gmixer, but I have been able to run the gnome-soundcard-volume applet (if I right click on the speaker in the top right of the FC6 window. I have set all of the options to be visible in the Preferences dialog, and my nVidia CK804 has the following settings:

Playback tab:
Master On (for both channels)
Master Mono On
PCM On (for both channels)
Surround Off (for both channels)
Center Off
LFE Off
Line In On (for both channels)
CD On (for both channels)
MIC Off
Phone Off
IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA On
PC Speaker Off
Aux Off
Capture Tab:
On (for both Volume AND Mic)
Switches tab:
The following are checked on:
Line In Capture, CD Capture, Video, IEC958, IEC958 Capture, Mix, Mix Mono, Duplicate Frontend, and External Amplifier
The following are checked off:
Mic Capture, Mic Boost, Mix Front Input, Phone Capture, Aux Capture
Options tab:
Surround Jack: Shared
Mic Select: Mic1
IEC958 Playback Source: PCM
Mono Output Select: Mix
Channel Mode: 2ch

I know this seems like alot, and I can get screen captures if anyone thinks it'll help. I've been able to get test recordings going, DVDs being ripped down, and CDs being ripped down, but all of these don't mean scratch if I can't hear anything.

Thanks again for any and all help.
Harry

I don't know how much help this may be (probably none), but you said you have alsamixer? You tried playing music in one console (mplayer someMusic.ogg) and then unmuting, muting and turning volume up and down on the different options in a different console?

Jarett

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lifter89 at comcast

Aug 21, 2007, 12:16 PM

Post #17 of 24 (2014 views)
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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

OK, I just installed my original sound card from my old PC (a Soundblaster 128 PCI card), disabled the onboard sound, and re-ran the same test (looped the test sound in Soundcard Detection and muted/unmuted via alsamixer). This works when the test sound plays, but if I play something else (like an ogg sound file), I get nothing. No sound at all.

What the hell is so difficult here? What am I missing? I'm really starting to go out of my mind here. Its crap like this that will keep people from abandoning Windows altogether! (Sorry, I'm venting).

Harry

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Jarett Creason" <nobleiceman [at] gmail>
On 8/20/07, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast> wrote:
I don't have gmix or gmixer, but I have been able to run the gnome-soundcard-volume applet (if I right click on the speaker in the top right of the FC6 window. I have set all of the options to be visible in the Preferences dialog, and my nVidia CK804 has the following settings:

Playback tab:
Master On (for both channels)
Master Mono On
PCM On (for both channels)
Surround Off (for both channels)
Center Off
LFE Off
Line In On (for both channels)
CD On (for both channels)
MIC Off
Phone Off
IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA On
PC Speaker Off
Aux Off
Capture Tab:
On (for both Volume AND Mic)
Switches tab:
The following are checked on:
Line In Capture, CD Capture, Video, IEC958, IEC958 Capture, Mix, Mix Mono, Duplicate Frontend, and External Amplifier
The following are checked off:
Mic Capture, Mic Boost, Mix Front Input, Phone Capture, Aux Capture
Options tab:
Surround Jack: Shared
Mic Select: Mic1
IEC958 Playback Source: PCM
Mono Output Select: Mix
Channel Mode: 2ch

I know this seems like alot, and I can get screen captures if anyone thinks it'll help. I've been able to get test recordings going, DVDs being ripped down, and CDs being ripped down, but all of these don't mean scratch if I can't hear anything.

Thanks again for any and all help.
Harry

I don't know how much help this may be (probably none), but you said you have alsamixer? You tried playing music in one console (mplayer someMusic.ogg) and then unmuting, muting and turning volume up and down on the different options in a different console?

Jarett

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vitaminjoe at gmail

Aug 23, 2007, 8:12 AM

Post #18 of 24 (1970 views)
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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

On 8/21/07, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast> wrote:
>
>
> OK, I just installed my original sound card from my old PC (a Soundblaster
> 128 PCI card), disabled the onboard sound, and re-ran the same test (looped
> the test sound in Soundcard Detection and muted/unmuted via alsamixer).
> This works when the test sound plays, but if I play something else (like an
> ogg sound file), I get nothing. No sound at all.
>
> What the hell is so difficult here? What am I missing?

This might be way out in left field, but have you tried playing the
audio using 'aplay' instead of mplayer? I don't think aplay will work
on OGG files, but it will play WAV files.

The only reason I suggest it, is perhaps mplayer isn't using the ALSA
soundcard driver. aplay uses ALSA exclusively.

--
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lifter89 at comcast

Aug 23, 2007, 4:02 PM

Post #19 of 24 (1966 views)
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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

I just tried that and. low and behold, I could hear the wav files fine. I have a friend who's running Myth on Ubuntu and had some sound issues, and he's gonna email what he did to correct his setup. He mentioned how his was "trial-and-error" on mixing what needed to be muted vs. unmuted (which is pretty crappy if you ask me: if something's unmuted, you should hear sound, but I digress).

Any tips on where I should go from here? As far as unmuting certain controls.

Thanks,
Harry

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Joe Ripley" <vitaminjoe [at] gmail>

> On 8/21/07, Harry Devine wrote:
> >
> >
> > OK, I just installed my original sound card from my old PC (a Soundblaster
> > 128 PCI card), disabled the onboard sound, and re-ran the same test (looped
> > the test sound in Soundcard Detection and muted/unmuted via alsamixer).
> > This works when the test sound plays, but if I play something else (like an
> > ogg sound file), I get nothing. No sound at all.
> >
> > What the hell is so difficult here? What am I missing?
>
> This might be way out in left field, but have you tried playing the
> audio using 'aplay' instead of mplayer? I don't think aplay will work
> on OGG files, but it will play WAV files.
>
> The only reason I suggest it, is perhaps mplayer isn't using the ALSA
> soundcard driver. aplay uses ALSA exclusively.
>
> --
> Joe Ripley
> vitaminjoe [at] gmail
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users

vitaminjoe at gmail

Aug 23, 2007, 5:06 PM

Post #20 of 24 (1965 views)
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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

On 8/23/07, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast> wrote:
>
> I just tried that and. low and behold, I could hear the wav files fine. I
> have a friend who's running Myth on Ubuntu and had some sound issues, and
> he's gonna email what he did to correct his setup. He mentioned how his was
> "trial-and-error" on mixing what needed to be muted vs. unmuted (which is
> pretty crappy if you ask me: if something's unmuted, you should hear sound,
> but I digress).
>
> Any tips on where I should go from here? As far as unmuting certain
> controls.

Not sure if you've checked this already, but it's from the MythTV docs:

Using ALSA.

To use ALSA, you'll need to correctly setup your asoundrc file.
Configuring this file is beyond the scope of this HOWTO. Once ALSA is
working correctly, change the output sound device in
mythfrontend->setup->Audio from /dev/dsp to ALSA:default. This field
may be edited to suit your ALSA requirements.

(Full text at: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html)

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lifter89 at comcast

Aug 23, 2007, 7:27 PM

Post #21 of 24 (1963 views)
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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

I created an asound.conf file from the example at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound#How_do_I_do_this_in_Fedora_Core, making sure that my device ID was changed for the digital portion (the IEC958) in the file, but things are still weird. I can use aplay on a wav file from the command line, and I can run xine to play an mp3, but when I setup the settings in Myth according to the recommendations at that link, I still can't hear anything (the part talking about "Audio output device" about 3 paragraphs above the "Questions and Answers" heading). I get nothing in both Analog and Digital.

In Myth, under Utilities/Setup->General in the Audio section, I have my "Audio output device" set to ALSA:multi and the "Passthrough output device" set to ALSA:digital, according to the writeup. I also have "Enable AC3 to SPDIF passthrough" and "Enable DTS to SPDIF passthrough" checked. I hear nothing when I try to play a song out of MythMusic from a CD that I ripped down. It's in ogg format if that matters. That was the default format when it was ripped.

Let me know what other information you need. I'm still frustrated, but now I know that at least my onboard audio works, but I'm still missing a big piece of the puzzle.

Thanks,
Harry

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Joe Ripley" <vitaminjoe [at] gmail>

> On 8/23/07, Harry Devine wrote:
> >
> > I just tried that and. low and behold, I could hear the wav files fine. I
> > have a friend who's running Myth on Ubuntu and had some sound issues, and
> > he's gonna email what he did to correct his setup. He mentioned how his was
> > "trial-and-error" on mixing what needed to be muted vs. unmuted (which is
> > pretty crappy if you ask me: if something's unmuted, you should hear sound,
> > but I digress).
> >
> > Any tips on where I should go from here? As far as unmuting certain
> > controls.
>
> Not sure if you've checked this already, but it's from the MythTV docs:
>
> Using ALSA.
>
> To use ALSA, you'll need to correctly setup your asoundrc file.
> Configuring this file is beyond the scope of this HOWTO. Once ALSA is
> working correctly, change the output sound device in
> mythfrontend->setup->Audio from /dev/dsp to ALSA:default. This field
> may be edited to suit your ALSA requirements.
>
> (Full text at: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html)
>
> --
> Joe Ripley
> vitaminjoe [at] gmail
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users

nobleiceman at gmail

Aug 24, 2007, 5:23 PM

Post #22 of 24 (1940 views)
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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

On 8/23/07, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast> wrote:
>
> I created an asound.conf file from the example at
> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound#How_do_I_do_this_in_Fedora_Core,
> making sure that my device ID was changed for the digital portion (the
> IEC958) in the file, but things are still weird. I can use aplay on a wav
> file from the command line, and I can run xine to play an mp3, but when I
> setup the settings in Myth according to the recommendations at that link, I
> still can't hear anything (the part talking about "Audio output device"
> about 3 paragraphs above the "Questions and Answers" heading). I get
> nothing in both Analog and Digital.
>
> In Myth, under Utilities/Setup->General in the Audio section, I have my
> "Audio output device" set to ALSA:multi and the "Passthrough output device"
> set to ALSA:digital, according to the writeup. I also have "Enable AC3 to
> SPDIF passthrough" and "Enable DTS to SPDIF passthrough" checked. I hear
> nothing when I try to play a song out of MythMusic from a CD that I ripped
> down. It's in ogg format if that matters. That was the default format when
> it was ripped.
>
> Let me know what other information you need. I'm still frustrated, but
> now I know that at least my onboard audio works, but I'm still missing a big
> piece of the puzzle.
>
> Thanks,
> Harry
>

How are you outputting the sound? You said it's your onboard audio, is it
outputted via a stereo plug(s), or it coax or digital?

Try setting the "Audio output device" to "ALSA:default" and the same for
the "Passthrough output device". Then uncheck both of the SPDIF
options... That's what I had to do at least.

Jarett

lifter89 at comcast

Aug 24, 2007, 9:17 PM

Post #23 of 24 (1942 views)
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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

I'm outputting the sound with both an analog speaker plugged in (just to test it), and an SPDIF optical cable running to my stereo. If I use MythVideo to play a DVD that I ripped down, I can hear it fine on the analog, but nothing on the digital. If I use MythMusic to play a music playlist of songs that I ripped down from a CD (which got ripped to OGG format), I don't hear anything.

Also, I recorded 5 minutes of a program on my local ABC, and I don't hear any audio. I also don't hear any audio when I try and watch any TV program. I can use xine to play an MP3 that I transferred over, but xine can't manually play one of the OGG files that I have ripped down.

I also setup my audio settings as you suggested (ALSA:default for both and unchecked both SPDIF options), and neither had any effect whatsoever. I know that the sound works, just not all the time, and I can't seem to put my finger on the right combinations to make it all work all the time.

Thanks,
Harry
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Jarett Creason" <nobleiceman [at] gmail>
On 8/23/07, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast> wrote:
I created an asound.conf file from the example at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound#How_do_I_do_this_in_Fedora_Core, making sure that my device ID was changed for the digital portion (the IEC958) in the file, but things are still weird. I can use aplay on a wav file from the command line, and I can run xine to play an mp3, but when I setup the settings in Myth according to the recommendations at that link, I still can't hear anything (the part talking about "Audio output device" about 3 paragraphs above the "Questions and Answers" heading). I get nothing in both Analog and Digital.

In Myth, under Utilities/Setup->General in the Audio section, I have my "Audio output device" set to ALSA:multi and the "Passthrough output device" set to ALSA:digital, according to the writeup. I also have "Enable AC3 to SPDIF passthrough" and "Enable DTS to SPDIF passthrough" checked. I hear nothing when I try to play a song out of MythMusic from a CD that I ripped down. It's in ogg format if that matters. That was the default format when it was ripped.

Let me know what other information you need. I'm still frustrated, but now I know that at least my onboard audio works, but I'm still missing a big piece of the puzzle.

Thanks,
Harry

How are you outputting the sound? You said it's your onboard audio, is it outputted via a stereo plug(s), or it coax or digital?

Try setting the "Audio output device" to "ALSA:default" and the same for the "Passthrough output device". Then uncheck both of the SPDIF options... That's what I had to do at least.

Jarett

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Aug 28, 2007, 5:56 PM

Post #24 of 24 (1864 views)
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Re: Sound issues [In reply to]

OK, I think I have this worked out now. I abandoned the SPDIF sound for now. I have Speaker-Jack->RCA cable from my soundcard's output port to my receiver and can hear the test sounds fine. As far as MythMusic is concerned, I setup my Myth audio settings to be ALSA:default after creating an asoundrc.conf according to the mythtv.org WIKI concerning sound.

I then setup my MythMusic to rip CDs down to MP3s instead of OGG. When I play them alone with Xine or as part of a playlist in MythMusic, I can hear them fine, which is all I wanted. I can also hear a DVD that was ripped down to a VOB file too, so that's good.

If I could only figure out why any recordings that I make (on the VERY FEW channels that my pcHDTV card seems to find) doesn't have any sound now, I'll be good to go. :-)

Thanks,
Harry

-------------- Original message --------------
From: lifter89 [at] comcast (Harry Devine)

I'm outputting the sound with both an analog speaker plugged in (just to test it), and an SPDIF optical cable running to my stereo. If I use MythVideo to play a DVD that I ripped down, I can hear it fine on the analog, but nothing on the digital. If I use MythMusic to play a music playlist of songs that I ripped down from a CD (which got ripped to OGG format), I don't hear anything.

Also, I recorded 5 minutes of a program on my local ABC, and I don't hear any audio. I also don't hear any audio when I try and watch any TV program. I can use xine to play an MP3 that I transferred over, but xine can't manually play one of the OGG files that I have ripped down.

I also setup my audio settings as you suggested (ALSA:default for both and unchecked both SPDIF options), and neither had any effect whatsoever. I know that the sound works, just not all the time, and I can't seem to put my finger on the right combinations to make it all work all the time.

Thanks,
Harry
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Jarett Creason" <nobleiceman [at] gmail>
On 8/23/07, Harry Devine <lifter89 [at] comcast> wrote:
I created an asound.conf file from the example at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Digital_Sound#How_do_I_do_this_in_Fedora_Core, making sure that my device ID was changed for the digital portion (the IEC958) in the file, but things are still weird. I can use aplay on a wav file from the command line, and I can run xine to play an mp3, but when I setup the settings in Myth according to the recommendations at that link, I still can't hear anything (the part talking about "Audio output device" about 3 paragraphs above the "Questions and Answers" heading). I get nothing in both Analog and Digital.

In Myth, under Utilities/Setup->General in the Audio section, I have my "Audio output device" set to ALSA:multi and the "Passthrough output device" set to ALSA:digital, according to the writeup. I also have "Enable AC3 to SPDIF passthrough" and "Enable DTS to SPDIF passthrough" checked. I hear nothing when I try to play a song out of MythMusic from a CD that I ripped down. It's in ogg format if that matters. That was the default format when it was ripped.

Let me know what other information you need. I'm still frustrated, but now I know that at least my onboard audio works, but I'm still missing a big piece of the puzzle.

Thanks,
Harry

How are you outputting the sound? You said it's your onboard audio, is it outputted via a stereo plug(s), or it coax or digital?

Try setting the "Audio output device" to "ALSA:default" and the same for the "Passthrough output device". Then uncheck both of the SPDIF options... That's what I had to do at least.

Jarett

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