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robertlaferla at comcast

Aug 30, 2003, 7:28 PM

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Hardware Recommendation

Looking to set up a MythTV server w/small footprint (e.g. Shuttle),
region-free DVD-ROM and dual tuner capability. I have CATV (analog)
but would like satellite and HDTV in the future. What hardware
configuration do you recommend? What about the ATI All-In-Wonder 9800?

Also, does MythTV do closed-captioning? Does MythDVD do foreign
language / subtitles?

Thanks!

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joevph at yahoo

Aug 30, 2003, 7:41 PM

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Re: Hardware Recommendation [In reply to]

You will not be able to fit all of this in a Shuttle
machine. The only configurations from them that I
know about are either 1 PCI, 1 AGP, or 2 PCI.

The All-In-Wonder is basically useless for MythTV. It
is not capable of being used as a TV-In input for
MythTV (if I recall correctly, it does not function
correctly as a V4L device), and TV-Out with it is
difficult at best. Please search through the mailing
list archive for why the AIW cards will not work.

Thus, a dual tuner setup will require 2 PCI slots,
becuase you'll need two cards. This won't fit in the
small Shuttle cases, unless you have 2 PCI, and manage
to have on-board TV-Out (or VGA and a scan converter)
that works with Linux.

My MythTV machine is currently a regular ATX
motherboard, and I will be putting it into an ATX
desktop case (as soon as I find one that's not out of
stock somewhere). I will have two tuners, wireless
(PCI), and a Matrox G400 for TV-Out.

-- Joe

--- Robert La Ferla <robertlaferla[at]comcast.net> wrote:
> Looking to set up a MythTV server w/small footprint
> (e.g. Shuttle),
> region-free DVD-ROM and dual tuner capability. I
> have CATV (analog)
> but would like satellite and HDTV in the future.
> What hardware
> configuration do you recommend? What about the ATI
> All-In-Wonder 9800?
>
> Also, does MythTV do closed-captioning? Does
> MythDVD do foreign
> language / subtitles?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
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> mythtv-users[at]mythtv.org
>
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robertlaferla at comcast

Aug 30, 2003, 7:55 PM

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Re: Hardware Recommendation [In reply to]

Joe Votour wrote:

>Thus, a dual tuner setup will require 2 PCI slots,
>becuase you'll need two cards. This won't fit in the
>small Shuttle cases, unless you have 2 PCI, and manage
>to have on-board TV-Out (or VGA and a scan converter)
>that works with Linux.
>
>
Thanks. That is very helpful. I don't need TV-out because I'm hooking
the system up to a projector via VGA. The Shuttle SB52G2 comes with a
built-in graphics on the motherboard and two PCI cards. It looks like I
could put two tuner cards in it. What is the best tuner card? Also,
what type (AMD/Intel) and speed processor should I get?

Shuttle SB52G2
http://us.shuttle.com/specs2.asp?pro_id=264

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robertlaferla at comcast

Aug 30, 2003, 10:10 PM

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Re: Hardware Recommendation [In reply to]

*Joseph A. Caputo* wrote:

>Ugh. I *hate* UI sounds. However, in the interest of flexibility, I'll
>agree it would be a good option to have. What would be even better (IMHO)
>would be visual feedback that an action has been accepted. Isaac had
>indicated at one point that this would be coming, but I image other features
>have taken priority (rightly so). Whether audio or visual feedback (or
>both), it shouldn't be too hard to implement if you care to submit a patch
>(hint, hint).
>
I like the idea too as an option that you can turn off if you don't like
it or turn on if you do.

robertlaferla at comcast

Aug 30, 2003, 10:12 PM

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Re: Program data question [In reply to]

Who enters the data for the xml feed? How reliable is the data? Are
different cable channel lineups handled? What about local tv listings?
What about satellite channels?

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joevph at yahoo

Aug 30, 2003, 10:39 PM

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Re: Program data question [In reply to]

It all depends on which source of data you use. I'll
take a guess by your comcast.net e-mail address that
you're somewhere within the United States.

In the U.S. the data is scraped from zap2it.com. It
seems fairly reliable, but that's up to the individual
networks. The schedule for TBS, especially late at
night seems to be inaccurate, but that's probably the
fault of TBS. It's ticking me off because I'm a fan
of the TV show CHiPs (yes, please don't flame, I like
some hokey 70's TV), and the time that the show is
actually shown tends to vary from the TV Guide
information (both from tvguide.com and zap2it.com) by
up to an hour.

The downside to scraping the listings is that
zap2it.com changes their format every now and then to
break XMLTV. Fair enough, I guess.

The best way to see if you can get listings for your
area and your type of system (i.e. cable, satelite,
etc.), is to go to zap2it.com.

-- Joe

--- Robert La Ferla <robertlaferla[at]comcast.net> wrote:
> Who enters the data for the xml feed? How reliable
> is the data? Are
> different cable channel lineups handled? What about
> local tv listings?
> What about satellite channels?
>
>
>
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robertlaferla at comcast

Aug 30, 2003, 11:06 PM

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Re: UI Sounds? [In reply to]

*Joseph A. Caputo* wrote:

> Ugh. I *hate* UI sounds. However, in the interest of flexibility, I'll
> agree it would be a good option to have. What would be even better
> (IMHO)
> would be visual feedback that an action has been accepted. Isaac had
> indicated at one point that this would be coming, but I image other
> features
> have taken priority (rightly so). Whether audio or visual feedback (or
> both), it shouldn't be too hard to implement if you care to submit a
> patch
> (hint, hint).
>
I like the idea too as an option that you can turn off if you don't like
it or turn on if you do.

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drees76 at gmail

Jan 30, 2007, 5:38 PM

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Re: hardware recommendation [In reply to]

On 1/30/07, Rilawich Ango <maillisting[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> I am going to buy a PC to install mythtv. Anyone can give me some
> hardware recommendation for that issue.

1. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/
2. http://www.google.com/search?q=mythtv+hardware
3. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

-Dave
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beww at beww

Jan 30, 2007, 5:45 PM

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Re: hardware recommendation [In reply to]

On Jan 30, 2007, at 6:29 PM, Rilawich Ango wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am going to buy a PC to install mythtv. Anyone can give me some

We really want to help you, but you have to help yourself as well.

Start by reading the docs.

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall

And plenty more around the 'net. Google is your friend as always.

The real answer will depend on what you want to do, SD or HD? What is
your programming source? Where do you live? How much money do you
want to spend? How much noise do you want the machine to make? What
sort of display are you going to feed? What is the airspeed velocity
of an unladen swallow?
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menola at sbcglobal

Jan 30, 2007, 6:16 PM

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Re: hardware recommendation [In reply to]

On Tuesday 30 January 2007 7:45 pm, Brian Wood wrote:
> What is the airspeed velocity
> of an unladen swallow?

Airspeed can also be predicted using a published formula. By inverting this
midpoint Strouhal ratio of 0.3 (fA/U ≈ 0.3), Graham K. Taylor et al. show
that as a rule of thumb, the speed of a flying animal is roughly 3 times
frequency times amplitude (U ≈ 3fA).5

We now need only plug in the numbers:

U ≈ 3fA
f ≈ 15 (beats per second)
A ≈ 0.22 (meters per beat)
U ≈ 3*15*0.22 ≈ 9.9

... to estimate that the airspeed velocity of an unladen European Swallow is
10 meters per second.

What's google? ;)

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beww at beww

Jan 30, 2007, 6:24 PM

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Re: hardware recommendation [In reply to]

On Jan 30, 2007, at 7:16 PM, Joe Menola wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 January 2007 7:45 pm, Brian Wood wrote:
>> What is the airspeed velocity
>> of an unladen swallow?
>
> Airspeed can also be predicted using a published formula. By
> inverting this
> midpoint Strouhal ratio of 0.3 (fA/U � 0.3), Graham K. Taylor et
> al. show
> that as a rule of thumb, the speed of a flying animal is roughly 3
> times
> frequency times amplitude (U � 3fA).5
>
> We now need only plug in the numbers:
>
> U � 3fA
> f � 15 (beats per second)
> A � 0.22 (meters per beat)
> U � 3*15*0.22 � 9.9
>
> ... to estimate that the airspeed velocity of an unladen European
> Swallow is
> 10 meters per second.

Oh, a European swallow, I thought we were talking about an African
Swallow.

>
> What's google? ;)

It's a number. A "1" followed by 100 zeroes.

Really sorry folks, and I do find there should be better hardware
suggestions on the WiKi, I really am working on that, but I have this
Latin homework see, and...

The OP did have a reasonable question, but should have done some more
homework himself.

myth at dermanouelian

Jul 3, 2008, 8:13 PM

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Re: Hardware Recommendation [In reply to]

On Jul 3, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Jason Gauthier wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> As I am digging deeper into my complete MythTV project, I am
> challenged with video capture resources.
> First, my backend will also be a frontend. For this, I've chosen the
> Hauppauge PVR 350. I chose this model for the on-board encoding and
> decoding. From that standpoint, I have two additional frontends, and
> preferably three.
>
> I am having a difficult time finding a motherboard with that many PCI
> slots.
>
> I was curious if anyone was familiar with a dual input capture, or
> similar.
>
> Any realistic suggestions are welcome! :)

For analog, the PVR-500 - 1 slot, 2 inputs. (If you use Svideo or
composite, you need another space free in your case, but not another
PCI slot for the extra ports)
For digital, go with the HDHomeRun. No ports. It connects to your
network via ethernet.

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jgauthier at lastar

Jul 4, 2008, 8:18 AM

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Re: Hardware Recommendation [In reply to]

> Hey all,
>
> As I am digging deeper into my complete MythTV project, I am
> challenged with video capture resources.
> First, my backend will also be a frontend. For this, I've chosen the
> Hauppauge PVR 350. I chose this model for the on-board encoding and
> decoding. From that standpoint, I have two additional frontends, and
> preferably three.
>
> I am having a difficult time finding a motherboard with that many PCI
> slots.
>
> I was curious if anyone was familiar with a dual input capture, or
> similar.
>
> Any realistic suggestions are welcome! :)

>For analog, the PVR-500 - 1 slot, 2 inputs. (If you use Svideo or
>composite, you need another space free in your case, but not another
>PCI slot for the extra ports)
>For digital, go with the HDHomeRun. No ports. It connects to your
>network via ethernet.

Ah, the PVR500. Great! The DirecTV boxes do seem to have a coaxial out.
That might be perfect!

Thanks,

Jason
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