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melvincureton at MELCRYS

Jan 16, 2007, 7:01 PM

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Winmyth

Anyone know if WinMyth will be upgraded to work with 0.20 of Myth? Or
can someone give me instructions on recompiling it to work w/ Myth 0.20?

Thank You

Melvin Cureton

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ryan.goat at gmail

Jan 17, 2007, 5:21 AM

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Re: Winmyth [In reply to]

Check out Mythtv player: http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/
It works with mythtv .20 for playback for not live TV or scheduling
recordings (yet).

On 1/16/07, Melvin J. Cureton <melvincureton [at] melcrys> wrote:
>
> Anyone know if WinMyth will be upgraded to work with 0.20 of Myth? Or can
> someone give me instructions on recompiling it to work w/ Myth 0.20?
>
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> Thank You
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> Melvin Cureton
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> melvincureton [at] melcrys
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Jan 17, 2007, 5:27 AM

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I tried a recompilation of winmyth last wek. The original developer seems to have used a class (from memory CFrameWindowVideo) which is not freely available for visual studio 2005 (which is what I have).
Also, if you intend to have a go, do not use the wizard to import the project to 2005. There is a bug in the wizard and it will cause numerous undefined symbols.
Gareth

ryan patterson <ryan.goat [at] gmail> wrote:
Check out Mythtv player: http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/
It works with mythtv .20 for playback for not live TV or scheduling recordings (yet).

On 1/16/07, Melvin J. Cureton <melvincureton [at] melcrys> wrote: Anyone know if WinMyth will be upgraded to work with 0.20 of Myth? Or can someone give me instructions on recompiling it to work w/ Myth 0.20?

Thank You
Melvin Cureton
melvincureton [at] melcrys

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Jan 17, 2007, 5:28 AM

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rpooser at gmail

Jan 17, 2007, 12:26 PM

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Re: Winmyth [In reply to]

ryan patterson wrote:
> Check out Mythtv player: http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/
> It works with mythtv .20 for playback for not live TV or scheduling
> recordings (yet).
>

At the risk of someone telling me "gee, why don't you go do it then?",
why hasn't anyone made a 10ft UI for mythfrontend on windows yet?
These players like winmyth and mythtvplayer seem to be geared towards
someone who is sitting directly in front of a monitor using a keyboard
and mouse. In truth, dsmyth plus mapping a network drive seems to work
just as well for me. A 10ft interface would be much better on the other
hand.
Raphael
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ryan.goat at gmail

Jan 17, 2007, 12:51 PM

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Re: Winmyth [In reply to]

I think there is very little interest in what you are talking about.
Dedicated frontend systems work perfectly fine with linux. How would a
windows version improve on the linux version?

Personally I think the application frontend interface (like mythtv player)
is perfect for interfacing a windows desktop PC to a mythtv backend. The
problem with playing recordings over a samba share is the loss of the
flagged commercial skipping ability (which mythtv player is able to do).

On 1/17/07, raphael <rpooser [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> ryan patterson wrote:
> > Check out Mythtv player: http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/
> > It works with mythtv .20 for playback for not live TV or scheduling
> > recordings (yet).
> >
>
> At the risk of someone telling me "gee, why don't you go do it then?",
> why hasn't anyone made a 10ft UI for mythfrontend on windows yet?
> These players like winmyth and mythtvplayer seem to be geared towards
> someone who is sitting directly in front of a monitor using a keyboard
> and mouse. In truth, dsmyth plus mapping a network drive seems to work
> just as well for me. A 10ft interface would be much better on the other
> hand.
> Raphael
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Jan 17, 2007, 3:06 PM

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On 1/18/07, ryan patterson <ryan.goat [at] gmail> wrote:
> I think there is very little interest in what you are talking about.
> Dedicated frontend systems work perfectly fine with linux. How would a
> windows version improve on the linux version?

I could then watch TV using mythtv, and use nvidia's purevideo decoder
for DVDs (or if it was designed right, I could even use purevideo for
watching TV). PureVideo kicks the snot out of the deinterlacing
options in myth.

> Personally I think the application frontend interface (like mythtv player)
> is perfect for interfacing a windows desktop PC to a mythtv backend. The
> problem with playing recordings over a samba share is the loss of the
> flagged commercial skipping ability (which mythtv player is able to do).

It wouldn't be hard to interface with something like
mediaplayerclassic to have it automatically run skippoints.
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fsquires at gmail

Jan 17, 2007, 3:17 PM

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On 1/17/07, raphael <rpooser [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> ryan patterson wrote:
> > Check out Mythtv player: http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/
> > It works with mythtv .20 for playback for not live TV or scheduling
> > recordings (yet).
> >
>
> At the risk of someone telling me "gee, why don't you go do it then?",
> why hasn't anyone made a 10ft UI for mythfrontend on windows yet?
> These players like winmyth and mythtvplayer seem to be geared towards
> someone who is sitting directly in front of a monitor using a keyboard
> and mouse. In truth, dsmyth plus mapping a network drive seems to work
> just as well for me. A 10ft interface would be much better on the other
> hand.
> Raphael
>

From what I've heard, part of the problem with porting to windows is that
qt3 isn't licensed under the GPL under windows, even non-commercially. They
changed the license in qt4 to allow non-commercial use on windows under the
GPL, but MythTV doesn't work with qt4 right now. Of course I could be
completely wrong about this.

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rpooser at gmail

Jan 17, 2007, 4:27 PM

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Re: Winmyth [In reply to]

>
> At the risk of someone telling me "gee, why don't you go do it then?",
> why hasn't anyone made a 10ft UI for mythfrontend on windows yet?
> These players like winmyth and mythtvplayer seem to be geared towards
> someone who is sitting directly in front of a monitor using a keyboard
> and mouse. In truth, dsmyth plus mapping a network drive seems to
> work
> just as well for me. A 10ft interface would be much better on the
> other
> hand.
> Raphael
>
>
> From what I've heard, part of the problem with porting to windows is
> that qt3 isn't licensed under the GPL under windows, even
> non-commercially. They changed the license in qt4 to allow
> non-commercial use on windows under the GPL, but MythTV doesn't work
> with qt4 right now. Of course I could be completely wrong about this.
>
Oh, yeah, you're totally right. Seems I forgot that little detail.
Stupid me, that pretty much sums that up.
Raphael
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gull at gull

Jan 17, 2007, 4:59 PM

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Re: Winmyth [In reply to]

raphael wrote:
> At the risk of someone telling me "gee, why don't you go do it then?",
> why hasn't anyone made a 10ft UI for mythfrontend on windows yet?
> These players like winmyth and mythtvplayer seem to be geared towards
> someone who is sitting directly in front of a monitor using a keyboard
> and mouse.

I'd kind of like to see the opposite -- a player for Linux with an
application-style interface. Mythfrontend is great when I want to watch
fullscreen from across the room, but not so hot if I want to watch in a
window while I'm using the computer for something else.

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ross.campbell at gmail

Jan 17, 2007, 5:27 PM

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On 1/17/07, David Brodbeck <gull [at] gull> wrote:
> raphael wrote:
> > why hasn't anyone made a 10ft UI for mythfrontend on windows yet?
>
> I'd kind of like to see the opposite -- a player for Linux with an
> application-style interface. Mythfrontend is great when I want to watch
> fullscreen from across the room, but not so hot if I want to watch in a
> window while I'm using the computer for something else.

Well... from the MythTvPlayer website,

"Within the near future, the code will also be released as GPL".

After that, it should be straightforward to build MythTvPlayer on
Linux or any well behaved UNX-like OS.

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mikkel at sudu

Jan 18, 2007, 2:19 AM

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Ross Campbell wrote:
> On 1/17/07, David Brodbeck <gull [at] gull> wrote:
>
>> raphael wrote:
>>
>>> why hasn't anyone made a 10ft UI for mythfrontend on windows yet?
>>>
>> I'd kind of like to see the opposite -- a player for Linux with an
>> application-style interface. Mythfrontend is great when I want to watch
>> fullscreen from across the room, but not so hot if I want to watch in a
>> window while I'm using the computer for something else.
>>
>
> Well... from the MythTvPlayer website,
>
> "Within the near future, the code will also be released as GPL".
>
> After that, it should be straightforward to build MythTvPlayer on
> Linux or any well behaved UNX-like OS.
>
> - Ross
>
>
Actually I just released the code as GPL and created a sourceforge project.
I have not uploaded the code, though, as I would like to make some
re-arrangements first.
I will, of course, be happy to mail the code.

As you say it would be quite easy to compile mythtv for linux as it is
using OS-independent libraries for everything, including the GUI.
There is a bit of Windows specific code for controlling the window, but
that could be commented out quite fast.

If anybody is interested in trying to compile it on linux, I would love
to help out if needed.

Concerning the fullscreen/application-style interface I also thinks an
application style interface is needed. At some point, myth frontend will
be available for windows anyway, so why bother. It would be possible to
build one on top of the mythtv player code or build a plugin for one of
the PVR's for windows, but I am not planning to do this myself.
I like fullscreen on my tv.. But on desktop/laptop I want an
application-style as this utilizes the keyboard/mouse/resolution much
better IMO.
Also, at some point, it would be nice if mythtvplayer was able to copy
recordings to the local machine with a single click such that you can
watch the recordings while travelling or is away from your home network.

In that way the player is by no means meant as a competitor for the
myth-frontend which does an excellent job and years of code is in there.
It is meant as a alternative for certain things that is nice to do in an
application-style interface ;)

\Mikkel
http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/

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gareth.glaccum at btopenworld

Jan 18, 2007, 7:09 AM

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Re: Winmyth [In reply to]

Hi Mikkel,
Off the topic a bit
I tried to subscribe to your site earlier in the week. I had a feature request to suggest for your program. One thing that I think would be very good to add, is an always on top feature (couldn't find it if it is there). If I remember corectly, setting z-order to -1 sets this on MS windows, and should be a relatively easy thing to add (checkbox style or something similar). I am willing to try and help out on any coding work etc. but at the moment my time would be too limited to support a full porting of the code I think (depending on how clean it is).
Gareth

Mikkel Bystrup Stensgaard <mikkel [at] sudu> wrote:

It is meant as a alternative for certain things that is nice to do in an
application-style interface ;)

\Mikkel
http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/

mikkel at sudu

Jan 18, 2007, 7:19 AM

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GARETH GLACCUM wrote:
> Hi Mikkel,
> Off the topic a bit
> I tried to subscribe to your site earlier in the week. I had a feature
> request to suggest for your program. One thing that I think would be
> very good to add, is an always on top feature (couldn't find it if it
> is there). If I remember corectly, setting z-order to -1 sets this on
> MS windows, and should be a relatively easy thing to add (checkbox
> style or something similar). I am willing to try and help out on any
> coding work etc. but at the moment my time would be too limited to
> support a full porting of the code I think (depending on how clean it
> is).
> Gareth
>
> */Mikkel Bystrup Stensgaard <mikkel [at] sudu>/* wrote:
>
>
> It is meant as a alternative for certain things that is nice to do
> in an
> application-style interface ;)
>
>
> \Mikkel
> http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/
>

I released 0.3.4 yesterday and sent out a message on the mailinglist,
but maybe I forgot your email (it is a manual "mailinglist"). I created
a mailinglist on sourceforge which is used in the future.. There is a
link on the webpage.

Always-on-top is already implemented, but there was a bug which made it
useless before version 0.3.4 :). (The 'A' key is used to toggle
always-on-top)
Please mail me if it still does not work in 0.3.4

\Mikkel
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tom at redpepperracing

Jan 18, 2007, 9:02 AM

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Mikkel Bystrup Stensgaard wrote:
> GARETH GLACCUM wrote:
>> Hi Mikkel,
>> Off the topic a bit
>> I tried to subscribe to your site earlier in the week. I had a feature
>> request to suggest for your program. One thing that I think would be
>> very good to add, is an always on top feature (couldn't find it if it
>> is there). If I remember corectly, setting z-order to -1 sets this on
>> MS windows, and should be a relatively easy thing to add (checkbox
>> style or something similar). I am willing to try and help out on any
>> coding work etc. but at the moment my time would be too limited to
>> support a full porting of the code I think (depending on how clean it
>> is).
>> Gareth
>>
>> */Mikkel Bystrup Stensgaard <mikkel [at] sudu>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>> It is meant as a alternative for certain things that is nice to do
>> in an
>> application-style interface ;)
>>
>>
>> \Mikkel
>> http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/
>>
>
> I released 0.3.4 yesterday and sent out a message on the mailinglist,
> but maybe I forgot your email (it is a manual "mailinglist"). I created
> a mailinglist on sourceforge which is used in the future.. There is a
> link on the webpage.
>
> Always-on-top is already implemented, but there was a bug which made it
> useless before version 0.3.4 :). (The 'A' key is used to toggle
> always-on-top)
> Please mail me if it still does not work in 0.3.4

Hey Mikkel,

Sorry I never got around to creating that mailing list for you, I can
still do it if you need it...

Anyway, I just put Windows back into my house, and I tried 0.3.4 last
night and it would not launch. Every time I tried running it I got a
Windows Error Message thing asking about sending the data to Microsoft.
The latest stable release works fine, however.

Thoughts?

Thanks
Tom

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