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Tim.Keller at stratus

Apr 11, 2003, 10:38 AM

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Video Cards...

I've seen a couple things float across the list about people having issues
connecting myth boxes to their TVs.

For those who are doing it successfully, what video cards are you using and
what are the settings.

Currently I'm using a Nvidia Geforce2 MX400 with s-video outputs and I can't
get it to work properly with my TV...

Thanks,
Tim.

gtgj at pacbell

Apr 11, 2003, 11:30 AM

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Re: Video Cards... [In reply to]

>>>>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:38:17 -0400, "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller [at] stratus> said:

t> Currently I'm using a Nvidia Geforce2 MX400 with s-video outputs and I can't
t> get it to work properly with my TV...

I have this type of card. What doesn't work for you? I don't
have a separate monitor hooked up and occassionally, the console
driver doesn't detect the TV so I have to login blind or remotely.
Once I login and start XFree86 though, it always works. I use
nVIDIA's drivers (version 1.0-4349) and the entries in my XF86Config
are:

Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX"
Driver "nvidia"
BusID "PCI:3:0:0"

Option "RenderAccel" "true"
Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"
Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE" # or "SVIDEO"
EndSection

My card has a CX25871 NTSC encoder and I use "nvtv" to set up
overscanning. The default modes didn't look good but it wasn't too
hard to create a custom mode. I can send you a patch for the values
that worked for me if you're interested.
--
Gregorio Gervasio, Jr.
gtgj [at] pacbell

Tim.Keller at stratus

Apr 11, 2003, 11:42 AM

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RE: Video Cards... [In reply to]

George,

You've been a great help! I wasn't sure if I should use Nvidia's drivers or
stick with the ones that came with RH8, I'll go grab them right now. Also,
I wasn't sure what options to use either, thanks!

However, I do have a separate and odd issue. I setup up the mythfrontend
and choose "Watch TV" option and it just sits there. After doing some
investigation I found that the "MythTV" app is running but ends up being
hidden by the "mythtvfronend" Now if I just run the mythTV app, it grabs
channel 3 (which currently has an 8bit Nintendo running Metroid on it). Any
ideas or solutions?

Thanks,
Tim.

-----Original Message-----
From: gtgj [at] pacbell [mailto:gtgj [at] pacbell]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 14:31 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

>>>>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:38:17 -0400, "Keller, Tim"
<Tim.Keller [at] stratus> said:

t> Currently I'm using a Nvidia Geforce2 MX400 with s-video outputs and I
can't
t> get it to work properly with my TV...

I have this type of card. What doesn't work for you? I don't
have a separate monitor hooked up and occassionally, the console
driver doesn't detect the TV so I have to login blind or remotely.
Once I login and start XFree86 though, it always works. I use
nVIDIA's drivers (version 1.0-4349) and the entries in my XF86Config
are:

Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX"
Driver "nvidia"
BusID "PCI:3:0:0"

Option "RenderAccel" "true"
Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"
Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE" # or "SVIDEO"
EndSection

My card has a CX25871 NTSC encoder and I use "nvtv" to set up
overscanning. The default modes didn't look good but it wasn't too
hard to create a custom mode. I can send you a patch for the values
that worked for me if you're interested.
--
Gregorio Gervasio, Jr.
gtgj [at] pacbell
_______________________________________________
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users [at] snowman
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jasonmiller at micron

Apr 11, 2003, 11:47 AM

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RE: Video Cards... [In reply to]

Same here. GeForce 2 MX. My only issue is it boots up with the TV-Out set to PAL. I'd love to be able to change that default. These cards don't easily, if at all, work with both a monitor and TV connected at the same time. I don't suppose that is your problem?

-----Original Message-----
From: gtgj [at] pacbell [mailto:gtgj [at] pacbell]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:31 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

>>>>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:38:17 -0400, "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller [at] stratus> said:

t> Currently I'm using a Nvidia Geforce2 MX400 with s-video outputs and I can't
t> get it to work properly with my TV...

I have this type of card. What doesn't work for you? I don't
have a separate monitor hooked up and occassionally, the console
driver doesn't detect the TV so I have to login blind or remotely.
Once I login and start XFree86 though, it always works. I use
nVIDIA's drivers (version 1.0-4349) and the entries in my XF86Config
are:

Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX"
Driver "nvidia"
BusID "PCI:3:0:0"

Option "RenderAccel" "true"
Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"
Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE" # or "SVIDEO"
EndSection

My card has a CX25871 NTSC encoder and I use "nvtv" to set up
overscanning. The default modes didn't look good but it wasn't too
hard to create a custom mode. I can send you a patch for the values
that worked for me if you're interested.
--
Gregorio Gervasio, Jr.
gtgj [at] pacbell
_______________________________________________
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users [at] snowman
http://lists.snowman.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users

Tim.Keller at stratus

Apr 11, 2003, 11:59 AM

Post #5 of 11 (1541 views)
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RE: Video Cards... [In reply to]

Nope, only doing one at a time, either monitor or TV, but not both. The
issue I was having was that I couldn't find the right sync settings so that
the svideo would work for X on a TV. It'll boot fine and I'll see the POST
and all that good stuff, but as soon as the X server would start I'd get the
"jaggies"...

I'm still having the issue of the MythTv app running behind the mythfrontend
app...

Tim.

-----Original Message-----
From: jasonmiller [mailto:jasonmiller [at] micron]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 14:47 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

Same here. GeForce 2 MX. My only issue is it boots up with the TV-Out set
to PAL. I'd love to be able to change that default. These cards don't
easily, if at all, work with both a monitor and TV connected at the same
time. I don't suppose that is your problem?

-----Original Message-----
From: gtgj [at] pacbell [mailto:gtgj [at] pacbell]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:31 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

>>>>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:38:17 -0400, "Keller, Tim"
<Tim.Keller [at] stratus> said:

t> Currently I'm using a Nvidia Geforce2 MX400 with s-video outputs and I
can't
t> get it to work properly with my TV...

I have this type of card. What doesn't work for you? I don't
have a separate monitor hooked up and occassionally, the console
driver doesn't detect the TV so I have to login blind or remotely.
Once I login and start XFree86 though, it always works. I use
nVIDIA's drivers (version 1.0-4349) and the entries in my XF86Config
are:

Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX"
Driver "nvidia"
BusID "PCI:3:0:0"

Option "RenderAccel" "true"
Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"
Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE" # or "SVIDEO"
EndSection

My card has a CX25871 NTSC encoder and I use "nvtv" to set up
overscanning. The default modes didn't look good but it wasn't too
hard to create a custom mode. I can send you a patch for the values
that worked for me if you're interested.
--
Gregorio Gervasio, Jr.
gtgj [at] pacbell
_______________________________________________
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john at kelley

Apr 11, 2003, 12:10 PM

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RE: Video Cards... [In reply to]

What window manager are you using?

Also if anyone here is, why would you run mythfrontend on top of KDE or
GNOME? I can't see any advantage to using one of those (bloated) window
managers over something simple like FWVM or Blackbox.

- John

-----Original Message-----
From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] snowman
[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] snowman] On Behalf Of Keller, Tim
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 4:00 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

Nope, only doing one at a time, either monitor or TV, but not both. The
issue I was having was that I couldn't find the right sync settings so
that the svideo would work for X on a TV. It'll boot fine and I'll see
the POST and all that good stuff, but as soon as the X server would
start I'd get the "jaggies"...

I'm still having the issue of the MythTv app running behind the
mythfrontend app...

Tim.

-----Original Message-----
From: jasonmiller [mailto:jasonmiller [at] micron]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 14:47 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

Same here. GeForce 2 MX. My only issue is it boots up with the TV-Out
set to PAL. I'd love to be able to change that default. These cards
don't easily, if at all, work with both a monitor and TV connected at
the same time. I don't suppose that is your problem?

-----Original Message-----
From: gtgj [at] pacbell [mailto:gtgj [at] pacbell]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:31 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

>>>>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:38:17 -0400, "Keller, Tim"
<Tim.Keller [at] stratus> said:

t> Currently I'm using a Nvidia Geforce2 MX400 with s-video outputs and
t> I
can't
t> get it to work properly with my TV...

I have this type of card. What doesn't work for you? I don't
have a separate monitor hooked up and occassionally, the console driver
doesn't detect the TV so I have to login blind or remotely. Once I login
and start XFree86 though, it always works. I use nVIDIA's drivers
(version 1.0-4349) and the entries in my XF86Config
are:

Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX"
Driver "nvidia"
BusID "PCI:3:0:0"

Option "RenderAccel" "true"
Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"
Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE" # or "SVIDEO"
EndSection

My card has a CX25871 NTSC encoder and I use "nvtv" to set up
overscanning. The default modes didn't look good but it wasn't too hard
to create a custom mode. I can send you a patch for the values that
worked for me if you're interested.
--
Gregorio Gervasio, Jr.
gtgj [at] pacbell _______________________________________________
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jasonmiller at micron

Apr 11, 2003, 12:17 PM

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RE: Video Cards... [In reply to]

If by "jaggies" you mean it isn't syncing then the only things I can think of are you either have the wrong TVStandard setting or a bad cable.

As for the MythTV app running behid the frontend, do you have your window manager set to automatically adjust focus?

-----Original Message-----
From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller [at] stratus]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:00 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

Nope, only doing one at a time, either monitor or TV, but not both. The
issue I was having was that I couldn't find the right sync settings so that
the svideo would work for X on a TV. It'll boot fine and I'll see the POST
and all that good stuff, but as soon as the X server would start I'd get the
"jaggies"...

I'm still having the issue of the MythTv app running behind the mythfrontend
app...

Tim.

-----Original Message-----
From: jasonmiller [mailto:jasonmiller [at] micron]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 14:47 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

Same here. GeForce 2 MX. My only issue is it boots up with the TV-Out set
to PAL. I'd love to be able to change that default. These cards don't
easily, if at all, work with both a monitor and TV connected at the same
time. I don't suppose that is your problem?

-----Original Message-----
From: gtgj [at] pacbell [mailto:gtgj [at] pacbell]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:31 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

>>>>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:38:17 -0400, "Keller, Tim"
<Tim.Keller [at] stratus> said:

t> Currently I'm using a Nvidia Geforce2 MX400 with s-video outputs and I
can't
t> get it to work properly with my TV...

I have this type of card. What doesn't work for you? I don't
have a separate monitor hooked up and occassionally, the console
driver doesn't detect the TV so I have to login blind or remotely.
Once I login and start XFree86 though, it always works. I use
nVIDIA's drivers (version 1.0-4349) and the entries in my XF86Config
are:

Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX"
Driver "nvidia"
BusID "PCI:3:0:0"

Option "RenderAccel" "true"
Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"
Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE" # or "SVIDEO"
EndSection

My card has a CX25871 NTSC encoder and I use "nvtv" to set up
overscanning. The default modes didn't look good but it wasn't too
hard to create a custom mode. I can send you a patch for the values
that worked for me if you're interested.
--
Gregorio Gervasio, Jr.
gtgj [at] pacbell
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jasonmiller at micron

Apr 11, 2003, 12:22 PM

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RE: Video Cards... [In reply to]

If are using the frontend exclusively for running mythtv I would agree with you but I would venture to guess most people who read the list are doing some level of development on the box as well. Kinda the nature of running from CVS :) My frontend only has a TV attached to it so I have to administer it remotely. KDE has a nice built-in vnc server that makes debugging a breeze. The autohiding toolbar at the bottom makes access to other windows very easy without affect myth in normal operation. The Konsole has indivdual terminals on tabs which works well for a 640x480 display. It has a lot of features that are nice. The same features could be cobbled together with a lighter weight WM but you gotta pick your battles :)

-----Original Message-----
From: John Kelley [mailto:john [at] kelley]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:10 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

What window manager are you using?

Also if anyone here is, why would you run mythfrontend on top of KDE or
GNOME? I can't see any advantage to using one of those (bloated) window
managers over something simple like FWVM or Blackbox.

- John

-----Original Message-----
From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] snowman
[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] snowman] On Behalf Of Keller, Tim
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 4:00 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

Nope, only doing one at a time, either monitor or TV, but not both. The
issue I was having was that I couldn't find the right sync settings so
that the svideo would work for X on a TV. It'll boot fine and I'll see
the POST and all that good stuff, but as soon as the X server would
start I'd get the "jaggies"...

I'm still having the issue of the MythTv app running behind the
mythfrontend app...

Tim.

-----Original Message-----
From: jasonmiller [mailto:jasonmiller [at] micron]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 14:47 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

Same here. GeForce 2 MX. My only issue is it boots up with the TV-Out
set to PAL. I'd love to be able to change that default. These cards
don't easily, if at all, work with both a monitor and TV connected at
the same time. I don't suppose that is your problem?

-----Original Message-----
From: gtgj [at] pacbell [mailto:gtgj [at] pacbell]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:31 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

>>>>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:38:17 -0400, "Keller, Tim"
<Tim.Keller [at] stratus> said:

t> Currently I'm using a Nvidia Geforce2 MX400 with s-video outputs and
t> I
can't
t> get it to work properly with my TV...

I have this type of card. What doesn't work for you? I don't
have a separate monitor hooked up and occassionally, the console driver
doesn't detect the TV so I have to login blind or remotely. Once I login
and start XFree86 though, it always works. I use nVIDIA's drivers
(version 1.0-4349) and the entries in my XF86Config
are:

Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX"
Driver "nvidia"
BusID "PCI:3:0:0"

Option "RenderAccel" "true"
Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"
Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE" # or "SVIDEO"
EndSection

My card has a CX25871 NTSC encoder and I use "nvtv" to set up
overscanning. The default modes didn't look good but it wasn't too hard
to create a custom mode. I can send you a patch for the values that
worked for me if you're interested.
--
Gregorio Gervasio, Jr.
gtgj [at] pacbell _______________________________________________
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bjm at lvcm

Apr 11, 2003, 2:17 PM

Post #9 of 11 (1583 views)
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Re: Video Cards... [In reply to]

Keller, Tim wrote:
> ... After doing some
> investigation I found that the "MythTV" app is running but ends up being
> hidden by the "mythtvfronend".

This is a window manager problem with window stacking. See
if changing your window manager to 'Click to Focus' helps,
or try a different window manager.

-- bjm

ijr at routex

Apr 11, 2003, 3:28 PM

Post #10 of 11 (1581 views)
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Re: Video Cards... [In reply to]

Arghh....nobody is using an ATI Radeon 9000 here? Well, that's what I have and
it worked great when I finally got mythtv running on my desktop monitor, but
when I moved the htpc back to the Entertainment Center (tv-out only, no monitor
hooked up), I can work on the console but X doesn't work. I'm not a big X
config expert so I'm hoping someone here can help...or should I ask my question
on some xfree86 mailing list?

Thanks!

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edward.wildgoose at frmhedge

Apr 11, 2003, 4:12 PM

Post #11 of 11 (1589 views)
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Re: Video Cards... [In reply to]

Ask away. Please let us all know what the answer is though...

I have an older ATI card and couldn't get TV out to work. There is a
program called atitvout or similar, but it is only really for earlier cards.
If you are in 24 bit mode in less than 800x600 it might work for you
though...

You can make it work if you switch everything to use framebuffer and select
640x480 mode (although I never got that working either).

In the end I bought an old nvidia 2 mx which has tv out.

If you check ATI's website you will see that they make it quite clear that
they have no intention of supporting TV out except under windows.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Iohan Reyes" <ijr [at] routex>
To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users [at] snowman>
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Video Cards...

> Arghh....nobody is using an ATI Radeon 9000 here? Well, that's what I
have and
> it worked great when I finally got mythtv running on my desktop monitor,
but
> when I moved the htpc back to the Entertainment Center (tv-out only, no
monitor
> hooked up), I can work on the console but X doesn't work. I'm not a big X
> config expert so I'm hoping someone here can help...or should I ask my
question
> on some xfree86 mailing list?

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