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cisip at sprintmail

Mar 23, 2003, 1:57 PM

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Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE

Has anybody gotten this tv card to work with btaudio? I got the ATI TV
Wonder PCI working. I was wondering if upgrading to bttv .7 or even .9
release would be worth the hassle.

Thanks
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Chris <cisip [at] sprintmail>

jsprenkl at zenobia

Mar 23, 2003, 2:08 PM

Post #2 of 19 (2911 views)
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Re: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

Chris wrote:
> Has anybody gotten this tv card to work with btaudio? I got the ATI TV
> Wonder PCI working. I was wondering if upgrading to bttv .7 or even .9
> release would be worth the hassle.
>
> Thanks

It works for me under xawtv on mandrake 9.
I can't get it to work under mythtv yet.
I'm not sure if this uses bttv or not.

ijr at po

Mar 23, 2003, 2:17 PM

Post #3 of 19 (2897 views)
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Re: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

On Sunday 23 March 2003 03:57 pm, Chris wrote:
> Has anybody gotten this tv card to work with btaudio? I got the ATI TV
> Wonder PCI working. I was wondering if upgrading to bttv .7 or even .9
> release would be worth the hassle.

The Wonder VE doesn't have the necessary chips and hookups for btaudio to
work.

Isaac

kerflop at kc

Mar 23, 2003, 2:21 PM

Post #4 of 19 (2905 views)
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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

On the mythTV website, there is a link to buy the ATI TV Wonder VE card from
BestBuy.com... Does the creators of MythTV think the card can work... I
just bought one for MythTV (haven't got it working yet - not becuase of the
card) and if it doesn't work, I would love to know...

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] snowman
[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] snowman]On Behalf Of Isaac Richards
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:18 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE

On Sunday 23 March 2003 03:57 pm, Chris wrote:
> Has anybody gotten this tv card to work with btaudio? I got the ATI TV
> Wonder PCI working. I was wondering if upgrading to bttv .7 or even .9
> release would be worth the hassle.

The Wonder VE doesn't have the necessary chips and hookups for btaudio to
work.

Isaac

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nathan at ziarek

Mar 23, 2003, 4:00 PM

Post #5 of 19 (2871 views)
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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

The card works fine (I use it), just not with BTAudio.

Nate

rkulagowski at thrupoint

Mar 24, 2003, 1:30 AM

Post #6 of 19 (2871 views)
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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

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> On the mythTV website, there is a link to buy the ATI TV
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There is?

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merle.reine at lindows

Mar 24, 2003, 10:19 AM

Post #7 of 19 (2894 views)
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Re: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

I got the ATI Wonder VE to work just by plugging it in. Sound and video
work fine. Included is a list of cards that work in Mythtv:

http://info.lindows.com/tomw/tuner_cards.html

The OS I tested on Is debian based, LindowsOS. I also tried them on Red
Hat 8 and mandrake 9 with the same results. Hope this helps.

On Sun, 2003-03-23 at 12:57, Chris wrote:

> Has anybody gotten this tv card to work with btaudio? I got the ATI TV
> Wonder PCI working. I was wondering if upgrading to bttv .7 or even .9
> release would be worth the hassle.
>
> Thanks

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Merle Reine <merle.reine [at] lindows>
Lindows.com Hardware Certification

merle.reine at lindows

Mar 24, 2003, 10:20 AM

Post #8 of 19 (2865 views)
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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

I checked and I used tvaudio.

On Sun, 2003-03-23 at 15:00, Nathan Ziarek wrote:

> The card works fine (I use it), just not with BTAudio.
>
> Nate
>
>
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Merle Reine <merle.reine [at] lindows>
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merle.reine at lindows

Mar 24, 2003, 12:39 PM

Post #9 of 19 (2870 views)
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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

Break the connection? Do you mean the physical pass through cable? If
so, then yes it works. Sound comes from the output of the Wonder VE
just fine. I just tried it.

On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 11:39, Robert Kulagowski wrote:

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> Does it still work if you break the connection between the tuner card
> and the sound card?
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rkulagowski at thrupoint

Mar 24, 2003, 12:39 PM

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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

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tvaudio != btaudio.

Does it still work if you break the connection between the tuner card
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kerflop at kc

Mar 24, 2003, 1:37 PM

Post #11 of 19 (2905 views)
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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

Robert:

There sure is... If you click the link "cheap TV tuner card" it will take
you to BesyBuy.com...

http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInfo
Original Message:
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From: Robert Kulagowski rkulagowski [at] thrupoint
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 02:30:32 -0600
To: mythtv-users [at] snowman
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE

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> On the mythTV website, there is a link to buy the ATI TV
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There is?

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rkulagowski at thrupoint

Mar 24, 2003, 2:01 PM

Post #12 of 19 (2903 views)
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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

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Yes, I found it. It didn't appear to be a hyperlink since it wasn't
underlined, and is only a slightly darker shade of blue than the
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ben at handcoder

Mar 24, 2003, 7:25 PM

Post #13 of 19 (2892 views)
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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

Okay, just waqnt to clear this up. If you disconnect the patch cable
that connects your ATI TV Wonder VE from you sound card, you still get
sound? If so, can you give us a little more information. Maybe a look
at your modules.conf. Also what dsp device are you listening on?

Thanks
Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] snowman
[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] snowman] On Behalf Of Merle Reine
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:39 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE

Break the connection? Do you mean the physical pass through cable? If
so, then yes it works. Sound comes from the output of the Wonder VE
just fine. I just tried it.

On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 11:39, Robert Kulagowski wrote:

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tvaudio != btaudio.

Does it still work if you break the connection between the tuner card

and the sound card?

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cisip at sprintmail

Mar 24, 2003, 7:41 PM

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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

btaudio allows the tuner sound output to be accessed directly without
the need to pipe it into a line input of a soundcard. Btaudio will
assign a /dev/dsp device to it. Thats why you dont need a cable to run
from the tuner audio out to your sound card audio in. In my case, it
did create a couple of /dev/dsp devices for the ati tv wonder ve. One
for digital and one for analog but accessing both with sox and piping it
to the /dev/dsp of my soundcard for output to my speakers results in no
sound. For the regular tv wonder, it works. I am using the version of
bttv built in Redhat 8. I think it is .6. I dont know what tvaudio
is.

On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 14:39, Merle Reine wrote:
> Break the connection? Do you mean the physical pass through cable?
> If so, then yes it works. Sound comes from the output of the Wonder
> VE just fine. I just tried it.
>
> On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 11:39, Robert Kulagowski wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> > tvaudio != btaudio.
> >
> > Does it still work if you break the connection between the tuner card
> > and the sound card?
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>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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nathan at ziarek

Mar 25, 2003, 7:03 AM

Post #15 of 19 (2866 views)
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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

I was under the impression that BTAudio would not work on the ATi TV Wonder
VE. The reason: Isaac said so, and it kind of seems like he knows what he's
doing, huh?

Merle, can you give us some more examples on how you are getting this to
work? I'm willing to bet we are misunderstanding eachother right now, but
I'd like to be wrong :)

Nate

merle.reine at lindows

Mar 25, 2003, 9:17 AM

Post #16 of 19 (2902 views)
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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

My mistake, I get sound from the patch cable but not from onboard
audio. I am not passing sound through the pci bus. Sorry for the
misunderstanding.

On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 18:25, Ben Brown wrote:

> Okay, just waqnt to clear this up. If you disconnect the patch cable
> that connects your ATI TV Wonder VE from you sound card, you still get
> sound? If so, can you give us a little more information. Maybe a
> look at your modules.conf. Also what dsp device are you listening on?
>
> Thanks
> Ben
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] snowman
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] snowman] On Behalf Of Merle
> Reine
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:39 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE
>
>
> Break the connection? Do you mean the physical pass through
> cable? If so, then yes it works. Sound comes from the output
> of the Wonder VE just fine. I just tried it.
>
> On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 11:39, Robert Kulagowski wrote:
>
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> >
> > tvaudio != btaudio.
> >
> > Does it still work if you break the connection between the tuner card
> > and the sound card?
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>
>
>
> --
> Merle Reine <merle.reine [at] lindows>
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>
>
>
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>
>
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merle.reine at lindows

Mar 25, 2003, 9:38 AM

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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

I installed the latest mythtv from cvs and using the ATI Wonder VE, the
sound out works. I will load it again right now and send a copy of my
modules.conf . I have found that I do not have to manually load the
bttv, etc. any more. I thought it was a function of mythtv doing
something but I plug it in, install myth, start myth and it just works.
A fresh install of LindowsOS or Red Hat. I will check it again in a few
minutes. I am not getting sound passed through the pci bus from tuner
card to audio. I am getting audio out of the VE and patch cable to the
sound card input though.

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 06:03, Nathan Ziarek wrote:

> I was under the impression that BTAudio would not work on the ATi TV Wonder
> VE. The reason: Isaac said so, and it kind of seems like he knows what he's
> doing, huh?
>
> Merle, can you give us some more examples on how you are getting this to
> work? I'm willing to bet we are misunderstanding eachother right now, but
> I'd like to be wrong :)
>
> Nate
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] snowman
> http://lists.snowman.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users

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Lindows.com Hardware Certification

merle.reine at lindows

Mar 25, 2003, 9:51 AM

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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

I stand corrected.

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 08:57, Robert Kulagowski wrote:

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> you're maintaining that you will still be able to capture using
> btaudio? I think you'll find that is not correct.
>
> Connecting speakers to the external line-out of the tuner card
> doesn't prove that btaudio is functional - it just proves that the
> tuner works. If btaudio is working, then you don't even need a sound
> card to encode audio.
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rkulagowski at thrupoint

Mar 25, 2003, 9:57 AM

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RE: Btaudio and ATI TV Wonder VE [In reply to]

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If you remove the cable between the tuner card and the sound card (be
it the external 6 inch loop cable an internal audio connection)
you're maintaining that you will still be able to capture using
btaudio? I think you'll find that is not correct.

Connecting speakers to the external line-out of the tuner card
doesn't prove that btaudio is functional - it just proves that the
tuner works. If btaudio is working, then you don't even need a sound
card to encode audio.

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