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drbob at gmx

Jan 16, 2006, 6:21 PM

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Mythtv on Debian - is it dead?

I'd really like to try out mythtv. However my only option would be to
run the backend on my debian server (the frontend would be on a dual
boot windows/linux machine).

The problem is my server runs debian stable. I could countenance an
upgrade to etch but not to sid (I can't trust sid with my email and
filestore). Is there be a package for debian stable or etch in the
pipeline? The webpage of the new package maintainers is down
<http://debian.video.free.fr/> and I can find no info on the list since
the announcement a month ago of the new repository.

It's beginning to look depressingly like I would need to switch
distributions to use mythtv :-( Any suggestions on what to do welcome.

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phatfil at optusnet

Jan 16, 2006, 7:39 PM

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drbob wrote:
> It's beginning to look depressingly like I would need to switch
> distributions to use mythtv :-( Any suggestions on what to do welcome.

Compile from source. Everything goes to /usr/local so it's fine. All
dependencies can be found in the normal debian stable repository (you
probably want that marillat source as well), so all you need to compile is
mythtv.

Philip

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adeffs at gmail

Jan 16, 2006, 8:52 PM

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On Monday 16 January 2006 21:21, drbob wrote:
> I'd really like to try out mythtv. However my only option would be to
> run the backend on my debian server (the frontend would be on a dual
> boot windows/linux machine).
>
> The problem is my server runs debian stable. I could countenance an
> upgrade to etch but not to sid (I can't trust sid with my email and
> filestore). Is there be a package for debian stable or etch in the
> pipeline? The webpage of the new package maintainers is down
> <http://debian.video.free.fr/> and I can find no info on the list since
> the announcement a month ago of the new repository.
>
> It's beginning to look depressingly like I would need to switch
> distributions to use mythtv :-( Any suggestions on what to do welcome.

Christian Marillat's depositry has MythTV now thanks to the work of some devs,

http://debian.video.free.fr/

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stuff at dustsmoke

Jan 16, 2006, 9:06 PM

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Re: Mythtv on Debian - is it dead? [In reply to]

drbob wrote:
> I'd really like to try out mythtv. However my only option would be to
> run the backend on my debian server (the frontend would be on a dual
> boot windows/linux machine).
>
> The problem is my server runs debian stable. I could countenance an
> upgrade to etch but not to sid (I can't trust sid with my email and
> filestore). Is there be a package for debian stable or etch in the
> pipeline? The webpage of the new package maintainers is down
> <http://debian.video.free.fr/> and I can find no info on the list since
> the announcement a month ago of the new repository.
>
> It's beginning to look depressingly like I would need to switch
> distributions to use mythtv :-( Any suggestions on what to do welcome.
>

Yeah, its dead.

I run it on debian sarge with my own compile of everything that isn't in
the normal repos. (like ffmpeg and all of that) One thing that I ended
up doing was building my own 2.6.14 kernel package for the HD-3000
drivers rather than trying to build them into the old kernel. (which is
also possible)

http://www.penlug.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DigitalTelevision

If all your worried about is things like ivytv then I probably wouldn't
bother with going that far. Also all of my frontends run sarge where I
built everything by hand too

-Mike



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nick at craig-wood

Jan 17, 2006, 1:53 AM

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Re: Mythtv on Debian - is it dead? [In reply to]

On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 11:52:50PM -0500, Steve Adeff wrote:
> Christian Marillat's depositry has MythTV now thanks to the work of some devs,
>
> http://debian.video.free.fr/

From a debian machine

# apt-cache policy mythtv
mythtv:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 0.18.1-7
Version table:
0.18.1-7 0
500 ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch/main Packages

Its also in ubuntu

# apt-cache policy mythtv
mythtv:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 0.18.1-5
Version table:
0.18.1-5ubuntu3 0
50 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages
0.18.1-5 0
500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages

You can install ubuntu packages directly on debian, or rebuild them
with slightly more effort.

So no, mythtv on debian is not dead!
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redcane at dodo

Jan 17, 2006, 2:47 AM

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Re: Mythtv on Debian - is it dead? [In reply to]

I recently gave up on it and just got the svn. Once you have the dev packages
it needs installed its a snap to compile. But it seems that
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main
is valid, at least it lists packages for me in synaptic, apparently newer than
the csh.dijkstra.edu packages as well. I presume that you would be able to
apt-get the packages from there.

Otherwise, I do recommend a source compile. Some of the updates might be
worthwhile for you. I only had to modify some things on my debian system to
point to /usr/local so it would run.
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:39 pm, Philip Nelson wrote:
> drbob wrote:
> > It's beginning to look depressingly like I would need to switch
> > distributions to use mythtv :-( Any suggestions on what to do welcome.
>
> Compile from source. Everything goes to /usr/local so it's fine. All
> dependencies can be found in the normal debian stable repository (you
> probably want that marillat source as well), so all you need to compile is
> mythtv.
>
> Philip
>
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drbob at gmx

Jan 17, 2006, 3:14 AM

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Re: Mythtv on Debian - is it dead? [In reply to]

Thanks for all the responses. I think I'll try compiling from source. I
don't want to disturb the sarge setup more than necessary.

Does the marrilat repository only contain packages not included in the
official repository or a re there some backports of mere recent versions
as well? I like to avoid inadvertently installing an unnecessary backport.

regards,

drbob

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myth at dgreaves

Jan 17, 2006, 3:27 AM

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Re: Mythtv on Debian - is it dead? [In reply to]

drbob wrote:

>Thanks for all the responses. I think I'll try compiling from source. I
>don't want to disturb the sarge setup more than necessary.
>
>Does the marrilat repository only contain packages not included in the
>official repository or a re there some backports of mere recent versions
>as well? I like to avoid inadvertently installing an unnecessary backport.
>
>
I've just upgraded my frontends to use the marillat versions. (I
exclusivley use testing/etch not unstable/sid BTW)

For others reading this thread: they are complete packages and work
well. Given that most debian users will have marillat for mplayer and
xine; and given that "it just works" then IMHO it's a damn sight easier
to apt-get myth too if you just want the 0.18.1 version.

Oh, notably goom now works in mythmusic and mythbrowser works out of the
box.

David
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mythtv at fam-kuster

Jan 17, 2006, 11:27 AM

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Re: Mythtv on Debian - is it dead? [In reply to]

> I run it on debian sarge with my own compile of everything that isn't in
> the normal repos. (like ffmpeg and all of that) One thing that I ended
> up doing was building my own 2.6.14 kernel package for the HD-3000
> drivers rather than trying to build them into the old kernel. (which is
> also possible)

i also make my own packets because i run on a via epia board (the via epia cpu
is not compatible to the packets).

i compiled the mythfront and -backend, ivtv, X.org,....

not a big problem but need a lot of time.

bye
thomas
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drbob at gmx

Jan 20, 2006, 4:05 PM

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Re: Mythtv on Debian - is it dead? [In reply to]

drbob wrote:

>Thanks for all the responses. I think I'll try compiling from source. I
>don't want to disturb the sarge setup more than necessary.
>

Well I've just compiled myth on my backend from the 0.18.1 tarball.
After a bit of basic setup (lvm creation on my 200gb drive for video,
custom kernel to support my dvb-t card) and a few false starts (I
installed the lame and qt3 binary packages but not the -dev versions),
the compile completed without errors.

I can run myth-setup via x-forwarding to my windows machine (the
backend is headless). Just need to get my roof aerial fixed (it died a
few days ago) and I'll be able to confirm that all works as intended
:-). All the dependencies are available from either the official sarge
repository or from marillat. I really don't understand why there isn't a
sarge package, is it just a question of time needed to produce it?

Does the mythtv user need to be a member of any specific group on
Debian? It's not mentioned in the docs.

For initial testing I'll use knoppmyth for the frontend, is the
0.18.2svn in the latest version compatible with a 0.18.1 backend?

regards,

drbob

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stuff at dustsmoke

Jan 20, 2006, 8:16 PM

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Re: Mythtv on Debian - is it dead? [In reply to]

David wrote:
> drbob wrote:
>
>
>> Thanks for all the responses. I think I'll try compiling from source. I
>> don't want to disturb the sarge setup more than necessary.
>>
>> Does the marrilat repository only contain packages not included in the
>> official repository or a re there some backports of mere recent versions
>> as well? I like to avoid inadvertently installing an unnecessary backport.
>>
>>
>>
> I've just upgraded my frontends to use the marillat versions. (I
> exclusivley use testing/etch not unstable/sid BTW)
>
> For others reading this thread: they are complete packages and work
> well. Given that most debian users will have marillat for mplayer and
> xine; and given that "it just works" then IMHO it's a damn sight easier
> to apt-get myth too if you just want the 0.18.1 version.
>
> Oh, notably goom now works in mythmusic and mythbrowser works out of the
> box.
>
> David
>
I would use them if they built sarge packages, or if I rebuild the src
packages from marillat first. Otherwise you have to be a braver man than
me to get into that can of worms. Etch and Sid are moving, Sarge is frozen.

-Mike
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myth at dgreaves

Jan 21, 2006, 11:35 AM

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Re: Mythtv on Debian - is it dead? [In reply to]

Mike wrote:

>>I've just upgraded my frontends to use the marillat versions. (I
>>exclusivley use testing/etch not unstable/sid BTW)
>>
>>For others reading this thread: they are complete packages and work
>>well. Given that most debian users will have marillat for mplayer and
>>xine; and given that "it just works" then IMHO it's a damn sight easier
>>to apt-get myth too if you just want the 0.18.1 version.
>>
>>Oh, notably goom now works in mythmusic and mythbrowser works out of the
>>box.
>>
>>David
>>
>>
>>
>I would use them if they built sarge packages, or if I rebuild the src
>packages from marillat first. Otherwise you have to be a braver man than
>me to get into that can of worms. Etch and Sid are moving, Sarge is frozen.
>
>
From Christian's recent announcment:

Format: 1.7
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:57:12 +0100
Source: mythtv
Binary: libmyth-0.18.1-dev mythtv mythtv-common mythtv-frontend mythtv-backend mythtv-database mythtv-debug mythtv-doc libmyth-0.18.1
Architecture: source i386 all
Version: 0.18.1-0sarge10
Distribution: stable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: marillat [at] debian
Changed-By: Christian Marillat <marillat [at] debian>
Description:
libmyth-0.18.1 - Common library code for MythTV and add-on modules (runtime)
libmyth-0.18.1-dev - Common library code for MythTV and add-on modules (development)
mythtv - A personal video recorder application (client and server)
mythtv-backend - A personal video recorder application (server)
mythtv-common - A personal video recorder application (common data)
mythtv-database - A personal video recorder application (database)
mythtv-debug - Debugging symbols for MythTV
mythtv-doc - A personal video recorder application (documentation)
mythtv-frontend - A personal video recorder application (client)
Changes:
mythtv (0.18.1-0sarge10) stable; urgency=low

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