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jppoet at gmail

Aug 16, 2005, 7:27 PM

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Custom Record - First Episodes

Bruce,

I noticed your "First Episodes" template in "Custom Record". This is
*really* cool. I have been able to craft up a "Series Premier" rule which
finds new shows with categories I might be interested in.

However, I have run into a problem. When my "Series Premier" rule finds a
show I know I am going to want to continue and record, how do I then create
a record rule just for that show? When I do a "list episodes" on the show,
and then try to setup a record, I end up editing the "Series Premier" rule
instead of the show-specific recording rule.

Do I have to wait for the second episode to show up in the Guide, before I
can setup a show-specific recording rule?

Thanks,

John


bjm at lvcm

Aug 16, 2005, 8:35 PM

Post #2 of 5 (1451 views)
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Re: Custom Record - First Episodes [In reply to]

John P Poet wrote:
...
> I noticed your "First Episodes" template in "Custom Record". This is
> *really* cool. I have been able to craft up a "Series Premier" rule
> which finds new shows with categories I might be interested in.

Cool. Post it.

Ever since gigem invented kPowerSearch, it's apparent that there
will be lots of cool things we could do. Kind of like getting a new
box of LEGOs, you just have to play with it and think of stuff.
There will be a new section in the HOWTO RSN to help people get
started and hopefully we'll see some new creative ideas.

A note on how I actually use this rule. You could set it to record
then choose "Don't record" for the things that aren't interesting.
However, what I do is to go into "Recording Options" and set it to
inactive. This way these premiers show up on my Upcoming Recordings
list in white with an "x" for Inactive. I can then choose "Record
anyway" for some things but I'll always see when all of these new
series are starting.

> However, I have run into a problem. When my "Series Premier" rule finds
> a show I know I am going to want to continue and record, how do I then
> create a record rule just for that show? When I do a "list episodes" on
> the show, and then try to setup a record, I end up editing the "Series
> Premier" rule instead of the show-specific recording rule.

Ya, this is a PITA.

> Do I have to wait for the second episode to show up in the Guide, before
> I can setup a show-specific recording rule?

Exactly. Wait until the show is almost due then press "O" to see the
title proglist and set a rule on one of the other showings. If you set
an "All" rule, your "Series Premier" rule will still take precedence
for the first showing (because it is also "All" but has a lower
recordid). However, if you set a more specific type like Channel or
Timeslot, your new rule will take precedence for that first showing
so your priority, Recording Profile, etc. will apply to the premier.

-- bjm


jppoet at gmail

Aug 17, 2005, 10:34 AM

Post #3 of 5 (1462 views)
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Re: Custom Record - First Episodes [In reply to]

On 8/16/05, Bruce Markey <bjm [at] lvcm> wrote:
>
> John P Poet wrote:
> ...
> > I noticed your "First Episodes" template in "Custom Record". This is
> > *really* cool. I have been able to craft up a "Series Premier" rule
> > which finds new shows with categories I might be interested in.
>
> Cool. Post it.



It is somewhat complicated, because I am listing off all the categories I
want to see. I am going to play a bit more with it, and see if I can
simplify it without getting shows I will never be interested in.

Ever since gigem invented kPowerSearch, it's apparent that there
> will be lots of cool things we could do.



Thanks gigem!


A note on how I actually use this rule. You could set it to record
> then choose "Don't record" for the things that aren't interesting.
> However, what I do is to go into "Recording Options" and set it to
> inactive. This way these premiers show up on my Upcoming Recordings
> list in white with an "x" for Inactive. I can then choose "Record
> anyway" for some things but I'll always see when all of these new
> series are starting.



Cool idea.

One of my goals is to catch these programs, even when I am out of town. It
is a balancing act to record new shows that I am interested in, without
recording a lot of garbage.

> However, I have run into a problem. When my "Series Premier" rule finds
> > a show I know I am going to want to continue and record, how do I then
> > create a record rule just for that show? When I do a "list episodes" on
> > the show, and then try to setup a record, I end up editing the "Series
> > Premier" rule instead of the show-specific recording rule.
>
> Ya, this is a PITA.
>
> > Do I have to wait for the second episode to show up in the Guide, before
> > I can setup a show-specific recording rule?
>
> Exactly. Wait until the show is almost due then press "O" to see the
> title proglist and set a rule on one of the other showings. If you set
> an "All" rule, your "Series Premier" rule will still take precedence
> for the first showing (because it is also "All" but has a lower
> recordid). However, if you set a more specific type like Channel or
> Timeslot, your new rule will take precedence for that first showing
> so your priority, Recording Profile, etc. will apply to the premier.



Okay, thanks. I was just hoping there was something I was missing...

-- bjm
>
>
Thanks Bruce,

John


bjm at lvcm

Mar 8, 2006, 1:52 PM

Post #4 of 5 (1392 views)
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Re: Custom Record - First Episodes [In reply to]

Now that 0.19 is out, I wanted to reiterate a new capability
that many of us have found useful. This is a reply to an old
message from John poet with up to date info...

John P Poet wrote:
>
> Bruce,
>
> I noticed your "First Episodes" template in "Custom Record". This is
> *really* cool.

Hey, thanks again for your complement from and half a year ago
and for lending your endorsement for this feature ;-).

Ever since gigem invented kPowerSearch, it's apparent that there
will be lots of cool things we could do. Kind of like getting a new
box of LEGOs, you just have to play with it and think of stuff.
There is now a new section in the HOWTO to help people get started
and hopefully we'll see some new creative ideas.

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-12.html#ss12.5

One of the examples on the Custom Record page is "First Episodes"
which looks in DataDirect information and matches any episode entry
number 1 on the same date as it's original air date. This should
find the first day's showings of the premiere episode of any brand
new series. This is only as good as the data and as Mike Dean pointed
out with "Conviction", it sometimes misses but it seems to be accurate
more than 98% of the time.

A note on how I actually use this rule. You could set it to record
then choose "Don't record" for the things that aren't interesting.
However, what I do is to go into "Recording Options" and set it to
inactive. This way these premiers show up on my Upcoming Recordings
list in white with an "x" for Inactive. I can then choose "Record
anyway" for some things but I'll always see when all of these new
series are starting.

> I have been able to craft up a "Series Premier" rule
> which finds new shows with categories I might be interested in.

While you weren't able to refine and pass along this rule at the
time, I now have a rule to record these by genre that takes
advantage of features added in the meantime. There is now an
example for "All matches for a genre (Data Direct)". I added
this with the "First Episodes" example so that it finds just
"Reality" shows then saved this as another rule named "New Reality".
I set this to record while leaving my first episodes rule inactive.

Thanks to Hal Burch, the scheduler now prefers rules that are
eligible to record over showings that are marked as Inactive or
Repeat. For these Reality premieres, the "New Reality" rule always
wins and all the other series premieres are marked as Inactive
by my first episodes rule.

> However, I have run into a problem. When my "Series Premier" rule finds
> a show I know I am going to want to continue and record, how do I then
> create a record rule just for that show? When I do a "list episodes" on
> the show, and then try to setup a record, I end up editing the "Series
> Premier" rule instead of the show-specific recording rule.
>
> Do I have to wait for the second episode to show up in the Guide, before
> I can setup a show-specific recording rule?

Exactly. As I said last year, wait until the show is almost due
then press "O" to see the title proglist and set a rule on one
of the other showings. At that time, you would have had to tinker
with the record type in order to have the new rule for the series
take precedence. However, you can now simply set an All rule (or
any other type) and it will take precedence over the Inactive first
episode rule.

-- bjm

PS On a related note, this logic is also now used in a new "view"
for the Search Lists->New Titles page. When you first go to this
page it says "All" in the upper right corner. Press the "End" key
and it changes to "Premieres". This page shows these new series,
Specials or events on their original air date and movies of at
least 2 1/2 stars made within the past couple years. Hopefully,
these are the new blockbusters on the premium channels.
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kuphal at dls

Mar 12, 2006, 3:13 PM

Post #5 of 5 (1353 views)
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Re: Custom Record - First Episodes [In reply to]

Bruce Markey wrote:
> Now that 0.19 is out, I wanted to reiterate a new capability
> that many of us have found useful. This is a reply to an old
> message from John poet with up to date info...
>
<snip>
> A note on how I actually use this rule. You could set it to record
> then choose "Don't record" for the things that aren't interesting.
> However, what I do is to go into "Recording Options" and set it to
> inactive. This way these premiers show up on my Upcoming Recordings
> list in white with an "x" for Inactive. I can then choose "Record
> anyway" for some things but I'll always see when all of these new
> series are starting.
>
I have to say. I love this idea (and having coded some of the
inactivation feature, I never thought about doing this). I just set up
similar rules for MLB titled (for preseason and regular) program with
"Cubs" in the subtitle and inactivated it so I can override as needed to
record games on weekends that I'm home and would like to watch.

Another great example of the flexibility of Myth.

Kevin
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